Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mobile theatre

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There is already an article named Street theater that means about the same thing. But this article is written solely from the perspective of assamese street plays. I would say either a rename to "street plays in assam" or redirect to street plays or deletion is required. Daiyusha (talk) 01:59, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Merge to street theater or soft delete by reedirecting if the content is not salvageable. I am not sure if travelling theater is the same are a street one; particularly historically I think there may be some interesting overlap between such a concept and a circus. But this poorly written article that claims the phenomenon is limited to a single Indian state borders on WP:TNT. In the current form maybe a few minor facts and refs could be merged into the street theater, if anyone feels like salvaging something from this? Otherwise a simple redirect with a small note on the other article's talk page that some half-relevant content is available in edit history of this may be the best solution. PS. There is also a slight possibility that there is a local unique form of theater, like Tamasha, and that the article needs a better name and a rewrite... but this really need an input from an expert on Indian theater. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:33, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

:: I am not an expert on "Indian theater", but I can safely say that this is in no way limited to Assam only, It happens in the south of India(Telugu_drama#Kinds_of_theatre) as well, and its pretty popular(or should I say "was") during the festive seasons. Basically people set up a temporary stage on the road, made of wooden poles and planks and act out their plays. Every Indian state has its own history about it, but overall the setup is the same, after a week or two the setup is removed. I believe it comes under street play as well, having a makeshift stage should be considered to be a type of "street play". Daiyusha (talk) 08:22, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

:: Guys, I'm from Assam and I know well about it but unfortunately I could not write the first article of Mobile Theatre with a proper information, but I have recently edited this article. you may have a look. Mobile Theatre which you are guessing to be a kind of Street Play is not what you assume. The way tamasha is native to maharashtra, the Mobile Theatre is also native to my home state Assam. There are several articles and information available online, you can search it. It can not be a sub-genre of street Play or something like that. Its an another genre of its own which is native to Assam. You said mobile theatre is synonymous to that telugu drama which takes place in the south, but I ensure, Mobile theatre is a complete different theme in comparison to the telugu drama. The Mobile Theatre travells from different regions to another one, specially in rural Assam, and stages their plays, and after all the plays being staged, they shift to a new place carrying all their casts, tents, crews, chairs,costumes,pandals etc.They never stick to one place. There are several research articles available online which clearly cites this as native to assam. May be the sources which I took help from were unreliable or something, but to my conscience it is a must needed artice because, its a popular trend in assam and people doesnot know about it well, and there is not a single page about this subject. unlike Jatra, street play ,Mobile theatre is a different genre and it can never be merged with Street Play or something.Please read the article once again and reply to this chat.Ankur Jyoti Dewri (talk) 10:16, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

::: {{ping|Ankur Jyoti Dewri}} The problem is with the title, mobile theatre is something that can have a lot of meanings, ihere a native name for these plays, if yes the article might better be renamed to that. If no, I believe its better if we create a page named Drama in Assam, like how the telugu page does, and put it there instead. Regardless they are the same as what happens in the other states of India, and is not certainly unique to Assam. The script for the drama may be different, but the setup, the "tents" and all are the same. The correct word I was looking for is stage plays.They do happen and troupes do move places.

:: can you please elaborate why is the title as Mobile Theatrenot appropriate. The term is being used in many other sources in internet and books also. In Assamese it is called " "Bhramyomaan Theatre", bhramyomaan means something which is not stable, travelling. Many writers, researchers have been using the title, that's how you can search in the internet by typing "Mobile Theatre", how can you change the title of a genre which has been used for decades. Please search the internet by typing "Mobile Theatre of Assam" and you'll get to know. There was not a separate page for Mobile Theatre, that doesn't mean the existence of the genre or the title is unrealistic.

Ankur Jyoti Dewri (talk) 11:57, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

::: @{{ping|Ankur Jyoti Dewri}} When I google "Mobile theatre", there are no mentions of the assamese plays. Most search results are about [https://www.thebetterindia.com/141096/satish-kaushik-mobile-theatre-rural-india/ this]. That's my point, mobile theatre doesn't directly imply assamese plays. Maybe mobile theatres of assam could be better Daiyusha (talk) 12:39, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

::::@Daiyusha okay "Mobile Theatre of Assam" would be a better option. So the Title should be renamed as that, right ?

Ankur Jyoti Dewri (talk) 14:41, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 06:25, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 06:25, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Move to Draft:Mobile theatres of Assam, for two reasons.

:# [https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Mobile+Theatre+of+Assam A quick google search] shows plenty of reliable sources to make a proper article, but this current article is not up to standard for Wikipedia.

:# Street theater doesn't go into any depth on different theaters around the world, so it'd be hard to merge the information from this article to Street theater, making a move to a draft the best course of action.

:Hecseur (talk) 09:56, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

• Rename to Mobile theatre in Assam. I don't think the kind of theatre being discussed here is Street theatre because there are tents for the audience and, I guess, audiences pay to see the show - the Street theatre article makes it clear that free access is one of its characteristics. There are other mobile theatre groups around the world, such as Mikron Theatre Company in England - four actors, travelling by canal boat in summer, by van in spring and autumn, some ticketed shows and other "pay as you feel" shows. Not street theatre, but definitely mobile. There may be scope for an article about Mobile theatre, but it would cover a huge range of travelling shows across time and space ... with some overlaps with circus as mentioned above, and with our Traveling carnival article. PamD 11:31, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

:::And Touring theatre is an 8-year-old unsourced article specifically about shows which tour to different theatres ... something within the same spectrum. PamD 11:36, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

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