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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mr. Criminal

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep. The article needs massive cleanup but the artist seems notable, the later keep comments make the case quite cogently and one of the deletes changed their thinking... seems consensus for keep to me. --++Lar: t/c 04:41, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

=[[Mr. Criminal]]=

doesn't meet WP:MUSIC Rockero 23:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete Notability not asserted in article. -- Koffieyahoo 02:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Article now includes a discography. -- TruthbringerToronto 04:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Is Hi-Power "a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable)."?--Rockero 08:29, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

: AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 22:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

*Delete It's really hard to tell if he meets WP:MUSIC, but from the limited amount of information that is floating around, it doesn't appear to be so. Yanksox 22:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete I personally think it's much easier to tell that this guy fails WP:MUSIC than Yanksox does. -- Kicking222 23:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

:Actually, he totally doesn't meet WP:MUSIC, I was just trying to find the notability of the record label and yeah... Yanksox 23:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Weak keep Seems to be fairly notable in chicano rap, according to a google search. [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=MR.|CRIMINAL&samples=1&sql=11:w3de4jo75wav~T0 Allmusic] shows he has four albums on Thump Records, which seems to be a borderline notable indie label. However, WP:MUSIC is definitely met by mention of a nationwide tour and a tour of Japan on [http://www.mrcriminal.com/ his website], although that is not verifiable. More to come if I can find it. --Joelmills 01:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Only other thing I could find that might be meaningful is an amazon.com sales rank (yesterday) of around 95,000 for three of his albums, which in one case puts him two spots higher than a Wings greatest hits album. Make of that what you will. --Joelmills 02:06, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • No vote I'm changing to this, due to new influx of information. Your AfD research just owned mine. Yanksox 02:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Tour, at least of Eastern Washington, verified with google search. MySpace Music profiles are a good way to gauge the indie scene. site:profile.myspace.com "Mr. Criminal" tour produces a number of hits. I don't think that they're making this up. —WAvegetarian•(talk) 06:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak keep and if it is kept, it needs a major re-write. Stev0 12:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.