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:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 11:56, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

=[[Ollie Vanek]]=

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This article was tagged for notability in 2012 and one tends to doubt his notability. His claim to fame is he is the scout who discovered Stan Musial - that seems very trivial. References are lacking and/or insufficient and he appears to fail both WP:BASE/N and WP:GNG. I noticed that he won the "Gil Hodges Award" one year, but a search of "Ollie Vanek" and "Gil Hodges Award" on Google returns no reliable links. I did further research on the award, and it looks like it is handed out by an obscure group, so it seems more like a "Rotarian of the Year" award than anything notable. He did get an obituary, but the one I saw wasn't in depth and basically only mentioned his signing of Musial. Alex (talk) 09:12, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Alex (talk) 09:15, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. Alex (talk) 09:19, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 11:55, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 11:56, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

  • Delete he doesn't appear to be known for anything other than discovering Musial, which is not enough to establish notability. Mellowed Fillmore (talk) 01:44, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Alex (talk) 05:03, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 09:28, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

  • Weak delete. I would think the guy who discovered Musial would have no trouble passing GNG. There are some sources out there ([http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1755&dat=20000703&id=qkEgAAAAIBAJ&sjid=R38EAAAAIBAJ&pg=3587,4976355][http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=888&dat=19520229&id=64paAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ME8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=2669,6708596][http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2202&dat=19440226&id=P9IlAAAAIBAJ&sjid=bfwFAAAAIBAJ&pg=7212,2431568], but nothing that would put him over the hump. Wizardman 14:44, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Keep notable scout who is mentioned in depth in several notable biographies about Musial. Secret account 21:12, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
  • WP:ONEEVENT Alex (talk) 05:32, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.

    1. {{cite news |author=F. W. H. |date=1947-04-26 |page=7 |title=Hawks Find Vanek a Disciplinarian; Stickler for Try and Hustle Always |url=http://www.newspapers.com/clip/1345373/council_bluffs_nonpareil/ |newspaper=Council Bluffs Nonpareil |location=Council Bluffs, Iowa |via=Newspapers.com |accessdate=2014-11-26 |archiveurl=http://www.webcitation.org/6UNvxZcSn |archivedate=2014-11-26 |url-status=live }} {{Open access}}

    2. {{cite news |date=1947-01-11 |page=8 |title=Ollie Vanek to Manage Omaha Cardinals |url=http://www.newspapers.com/clip/1345430/harrisburg_telegraph/ |newspaper=Harrisburg Telegraph |location=Harrisburg, Pennsylvania |agency=Associated Press |via=Newspapers.com |accessdate=2014-11-26 |archiveurl=http://www.webcitation.org/6UNwU16ph |archivedate=2014-11-26 |url-status=live }} {{Open access}}

    3. {{cite news |date=2000-07-02 |title=Scout Who Discovered Musial Dies |url=http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2000/Scout-Who-Discovered-Musial-Dies/id-a6f85deb314823224c18b5f70585ea42 |agency=Associated Press |accessdate=2014-11-26 |archiveurl=http://www.webcitation.org/6UNwseWSO |archivedate=2014-11-26 }}

    4. {{cite news |last=Broeg |first=Bob |authorlink=Bob Broeg |date=2000-07-09 |title=Vanek Provides An Early Assist in Musial's Career |url=http://docs.newsbank.com/s/InfoWeb/aggdocs/AWNB/0EB0527EB001DD69/0D7C12F5A8A2A86A |newspaper=St. Louis Post-Dispatch |location=St. Louis, Missouri |accessdate=2014-11-26 |archiveurl=http://www.webcitation.org/6UNx9TkT0 |archivedate=2014-11-26 }}

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Ollie Vanek to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 00:59, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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