Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Operation Chameleon '93
:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Owen× ☎ 13:32, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
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The supposed subject of this article is not mentioned in the comprehensive two-volume US history of the wars in the Balkans (Balkan Battlegrounds), and a Google Books search results in no hits. Even the village of Skabrnja isn't mentioned in BB. If this isn't a hoax, it is a non-notable firefight that hasn't been documented outside the village in which it allegedly occurred. It doesn't have significant coverage in reliable sources, and is therefore not notable and should be deleted. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History and Military. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Croatia, and Serbia. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:16, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
: This seems to be just one in a series of war-related articles created by this new user in a relatively short amount of time.
: The leftover reference to Ante Nazor's mention in a Hrvatski vojnik article actually says the name was "Kameleon", so I don't know why we'd necessarily translate that and add a shortened year to it. --Joy (talk) 21:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
::I have explained about this OP here in the edit section, i will fix typo and if add more content if needed. I tink that just this article needs to be renamed to operation steel 93 and added more reliable content. Balkan Battlegrounds is not the only reliable book about wars in the former Yugoslavia. This book(BB) briefly explains the events without a deeper analysis because they want to include all events in 400-500 pages(its impossible to do in one or two books). All the Best Wynnsanity (talk) 12:53, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Gow is currently unverifiable because it hasn't got a full citation. I will look at the Sekulic book to see if it is reliable. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
::::OK, Sekulić was a major general in the VRS, and his book is published by a German press (not sure of their bona fides, but his book is cited extensively in Balkan Battlegrounds. I note there are some questions in BB about his point of view, being a VRS officer. I think it can be considered reliable in a general sense, but I think anything even slightly disputed or controversial cited to him needs to be attributed in-text, ie "According to the VRS major general Milisav Sekulić, ... then cited to his book at the end of the sentence, and thereafter "According to Sekulić, ... Coverage in this book can be used to establish notability, although I'm not seeing significant coverage, just mentions in passing. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:50, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
:* Delete per nomination, even if it happened at all does not seem to be notable enough to have its own article. Durraz0 (talk) 15:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
:*:Then why don't you help the article expand and be even better, that's why you're here, I guess? Or maybe you are here to glorify the UÇK and others like that and spread your nationalism, as you have already done several times? We can delete all RSK and VRS victories but then we would be left with your ridiculous articles where you killed 1k soldiers in 10 minutes. I don't know, just asking. Cheers Wynnsanity (talk) 11:38, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
:* Delete as per nomination. Iaof2017 (talk) 22:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.