Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phi Rho Eta

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The result was no consensus. The sources presented are not convincing proof of notability but there doesn't seem to be a consensus to delete at this point. Feel free to renominate in a few months. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 15:06, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

=[[Phi Rho Eta]]=

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Non-notable local fraternity, with less than 9 chapters. Not recognized by any national umbrella organization. No evidence of any notable achievements by fraternity. Fails WP:GNG: no evidence of coverage in third party sources. GrapedApe (talk) 13:46, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

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Local would indicate a single campus, not one with that many chapters. Additional news articles have been added to wikipedia article.Naraht (talk) 03:08, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Having only 9 chapters and no affiliation with a national umbrella organization does make it local. All the sources are student newspapers or facebook, which hardly seem to demonstrate "sufficiently significant attention by the world at large", per WP:N.--GrapedApe (talk) 04:02, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Facebook ref replaced.Naraht (talk) 17:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

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:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TheSpecialUser ^TSU 00:21, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

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:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TheSpecialUser ^TSU 13:33, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Keep. This organization does exist at multiple universities and so I would be inclined to consider it to be notable enough to meet WP:ORG. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:53, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Delete Notability is not based on some arbitrary number of chapters; it is based on significant coverage from multiple independent sources. Even a single-chapter fraternity could be notable if it meets this test; a dozen-chapter fraternity which does not have such coverage is not. No significant independent sources are given at the article, and a [http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22phi+rho+eta%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=%22phi+rho+eta%22&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=nws&prmd=imvns&source=lnt&tbs=ar:1&sa=X&ei=qrxDUKr3IdSk2gX74YHgDA&ved=0CCAQpwUoBQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=9e12cb5ef80bf93f&biw=1079&bih=595 Google News Archive] search found only passing mentions. --MelanieN (talk) 20:11, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

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Keep Not sure if I specifically voted above or not.00:15, 3 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naraht (talk • contribs)
Keep - Meets WP:GNG. Some sources: [http://northernstar.info/campus/article_42f81e77-48b7-5a32-9c8d-dcbd821f13af.html?mode=jqm][http://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22Judicial+action+to+follow+incident+at+Northern+Illinois+U.+Student+Center%22&oq=%22Judicial+action+to+follow+incident+at+Northern+Illinois+U.+Student+Center%22&gs_l=hp.3...1020.1625.0.1799.3.3.0.0.0.0.162.345.2j1.3.0.les%3Beqn%2Cfixedpos%3Dfalse%2Cboost_normal%3D40%2Cboost_high%3D40%2Ccconf%3D1-0%2Cmin_length%3D2%2Crate_low%3D0-030%2Crate_high%3D0-030%2Csecond_pass%3Dfalse%2Cignore_bad_origquery%3Dtrue..0.0...1c.1j2.lVjK9n41-3M&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=eed90faf6d3fee18&biw=1920&bih=911][http://www.wiu.edu/news/newsrelease.php?release_id=8459][http://www.wiu.edu/news/newsrelease.php?release_id=8476] -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 06:15, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
3 of those 4 reference are university sources, which, while they are reliable sources are not indications of notability.--GrapedApe (talk) 11:44, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
What part of WP:GNG do you think it fails?Naraht (talk) 14:19, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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