Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philemon Vanderbeck

=[[Philemon Vanderbeck]]=

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Does this person meet Wikipedia's notability criteria? FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:59, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

  • Delete - maybe speedy as a WP:COPYVIO - see [http://www.linkedin.com/in/elementalentertainment]. Urgh, what a mess. The article is horrifically written and layed out, it makes some very iffy claims (reincarnated on 30 August 1965? I don't think so.) and is clearly written promotionally. It mentions a heck of a lot of awards, but there is not a single reference that is from a reliable source about this guy, much less proof he won any of these from a reliable source. Also, they all seem like very minor awards, or internal awards. Lukeno94 (talk) 14:15, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete - It's possible the information was simply copied from the LinkedIn profile or the LinkedIn profile was also recently created. Google News archives found two relevant results [http://seattletimes.com/html/snohomishcountynews/2002790624_magic08n.html here] and [http://www.ballardnewstribune.com/2010/04/07/features/ballard-big-picture-magician-has-someone-his-sleeve here] (minor mentions). Entirely promotional and it was a little worse before FisherQueen [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philemon_Vanderbeck&diff=526796037&oldid=526794931 cleaned the article], providing "reviews" from customers. Both Google Books and additional searches of my own provided nothing useful but I found [http://www.live-wires.com/magicians/philemonmagic.shtml this] which repeats that ridiculous "reincarnation". After a final search, I found [http://nwringoffire.com/Newsletters/news0904.pdf this] Northwest Ring of Fire press release that mentions he won the "Best Mental Effect" but it seems he is connected to the group so (1) this would be a primary source and (2) this award could have easily been bestowed upon himself. SwisterTwister talk 21:54, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:GNG at least, ignoring the mess and the idiotic claims. §FreeRangeFrog 03:39, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete - I will change my opinion to "keep" on the condition that it be marked as fiction and given a humor banner. I will also point out that this Afd seems to have been created incorrectly, as a red link to the topic page appears on the banner. --Sue Rangell 21:20, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Magic-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:28, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:28, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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