Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Project 'S'

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The project appears to be complete vaporware, with no evidence of its production outside of an informal interview between its two producers Suda 51 and Hideo Kojima. Since then, there's been no official confirmation about the project and when the producers are asked about it, they're declined to make a comment about it. Thus, I see no reason for keeping this article other than to report on speculation of a game that seems unlikely to be made at this point. Jonny2x4 (talk) 15:04, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 (talk) 15:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete - Until there is an official confirmation that this game is still in development the article can live until this is Project "D". --SkyWalker (talk) 14:49, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep. Reliable sources. The game might not have screenshots or a real name, but we know it's still happening for the time being. Elm-39 - T/C/N 17:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
  • The last few times Kojima and Suda were asked about the project, they denied any actual development in the project. The game never really had any official announcement of its production to begin with, just a few informal statements by the supposed producers. At this point, the project is vaporware. Jonny2x4 (talk) 05:11, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

  • This article has the notability to be in Wikipedia, so there is no real reason to get rid of it by Wikipedia standards. Unreleased games and vaporware do not automatically qualify to get hauled off, just because they are just that. Elm-39 - T/C/N 12:07, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep Sources back up claims of notability. Once gained, notability cannot be lost. Vodello (talk) 22:21, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete there is no tangible article, just the repetition of a single source (1up) which itself is reading from another source, along with a couple of sentences of gossip and original research. As pointed out on the talk-page, [http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/1512/die_without_regret_an_interview_.php this] later interview pours cold water on the whole thing. 3 years is long enough for this curious fusion of nothing-in-particular to be lying around. Someoneanother 15:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

:*To clarify: lacks the non-trivial coverage in multiple reliable sources needed to assert notability, by a mile. Someoneanother 15:30, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Merge with possibly the Kojima Productions or Grasshopper Manufacture articles or something similar. While it just about clings onto notability, it has nowhere near enough content yet to warrant an separate article, nor is it very likely that such sources will turn up any time soon to back up such future content. Haipa Doragon (talkcontributions) 16:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

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