Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Morey (pastor) (2nd nomination)
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The result was keep. Jujutacular (talk) 20:13, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
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Non-notable and very FRINGE figure (who holds Alexander Hislop-like conspiracist beliefs regarding Eastern Orthodoxy and the Roman Catholic Church). The vast majority of sources in this article are to non-reliable (often primary) sources, or blogs. FiredanceThroughTheNight (talk) 22:29, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- Comment: Previous AfD were Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Morey (2006, deleted) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Morey (second nomination) (2006, kept). StAnselm (talk) 22:51, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
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- Delete Interesting but not notable. B Hastings (talk) 18:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- Weak keep Appears to be a controversial pastor who has received some coverage as a notable controversial pastor.
::The following quote is from [http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/january7/1.32.html "Is Islam a Religion of Peace?"] by James A. Beverley, Christianity Today, 00095753, 1/7/2002, Vol. 46, Issue 1 (emphasis in quote added):
:::Ironically, some Christian writers have also advanced the view that September 11 represents true Islam. Of these, the most influential is Robert A. Morey, the popular evangelical cult-watcher, who in recent years has targeted Islam as a deadly religion. Author of The Islamic Invasion, Morey has often debated leading Muslim apologists, in fiery exchanges that have led to mob attacks on him and repeated calls for his death. Morey has accused Muhammad of being a racist, a murderer, an irrational zealot, and a pedophile. After September 11, Morey announced a spiritual crusade against Islam, and invited Christians to sign this pledge .. [cut] .. Christian scholars have criticized Morey for his invective, but he remains unmoved.
:: -- Green Cardamom (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- Keep The mark of a controversial person who's notable is that lots of people write to denounce or comment on him. I think he scrapes by. RayTalk 00:36, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- Keep per Christianity Today article noted above. StAnselm (talk) 01:07, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- A single name-check in one Christianity Today article from 11 years ago does not automatically guarantee notability. FiredanceThroughTheNight (talk) 17:31, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
:::*More than a 'name check', it makes direct assertions of notability, calling him "most influential" and "popular" and a person of note among Christian scholars. Significance of the source is high. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 21:17, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- Keep While the article needs clean up and is overly dependent on primary sources I think there is notability here per the Christianity Today and other secondary sources cited in the article such as [http://www.ocweekly.com/2006-07-13/news/battle-of-the-christian-titans/ this one] . Keithbob 22:44 Nov 19, 2013 Delayed signature-- — Keithbob • Talk • 21:10, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
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