Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rod Machado (2nd nomination)

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I'm not seeing any reason for this pilot and author to merit an article. Fails WP:GNG. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:04, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:49, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:49, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

• Keep - likely meets WP:AUTHOR, also a widely-known speaker on aviation safety topics and a humorist. gNews search turns up hundreds of mentions of his being a speaker at various events (and, no, not just in the aviation press). Examples: [http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/pilot-talk/x-country-log/plane-talk-from-machado], [http://www.aopa.org/oshkosh/oshkosh09/articles/090803discover.html], [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=gHBLAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CSQNAAAAIBAJ&pg=5827,607703&dq=rod-machado&hl=en], [http://www.gamersnet.nl/reviews/fs2002/], [http://www.popsci.com/gear-gadgets/article/2003-10/taking-spirit-spin], [http://www.avweb.com/news/profiles/182959-1.html]. Individually the various things he's done might not pass muster, but as a group, collected, I believe there's enough to meet notability. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:09, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

::Non-notable achievements do not become more notable when combined with other non-notable achievements. Kind of like how adding buckets of lukewarm water to a lukewarm bath won't eventually make it hot. Delete InedibleHulk (talk) 21:21, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

:::It's been successfully argued in past AfDs that somebody on the borderline can be tipped over to 'notable' by having multiple borderline things contributing to notability. It's more "working multiple jobs to meet budget" than "adding lots of lukewarm buckets to make hot". - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:15, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

• Keep - Meets criteria #1 of WP:AUTHOR. Also appears to meet WP:BASIC: [http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/pilot-talk/x-country-log/plane-talk-from-machado], [http://www.aopa.org/oshkosh/oshkosh09/articles/090803discover.html], [http://www.aopa.org/events/expo/071004karant.html], [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=gHBLAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CSQNAAAAIBAJ&pg=5827,607703&dq=rod-machado&hl=en], [http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=c2db9e29-fda8-4c58-8b4c-61352ababd35]. Machado's definitely a notable person within his field. Northamerica1000^(talk) 22:05, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, WilyD 08:18, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

• The U.S. Air Force Auxiliary Civil Air Patrol press release (21 October 2008, "WISCONSIN WING'S LA CROSSE COMPOSITE HEWS TO 'SQUADRON OF EXCELLENCE' SLOGAN") says "With "Rod Machado's Private Pilot Handbook" used as the ground school text ". Is that good for wp:prof? duffbeerforme (talk) 13:14, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
• The Guardian's 17 January 2002 review of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2002 Professional Edition PC verifies flight lessons by him in the first listed simulator. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:17, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
• And George Soropos article "Flight Fantastic" in 20 November 1999 Sydney Morning Herald does the asme for the unlisted Flight Simulator 2000. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:19, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 11:45, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

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