Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Santa Cruz Skateboards

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Non-notable company, no indication of meeting WP:CORP, no reliable secondary sources. Huon (talk) 20:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

• Delete Cannot find any reliable sources to pass WP:CORP after 5 pages of searches on Google... ^Jguy_Talk^Done 23:00, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

• Keep{{spaced ndash}}Per reliable sources that establish notability of the topic: [http://www.metroactive.com/papers/cruz/05.21.98/nhs-9820.html "Extreme Success - A hedonist work ethic leads to big bucks for SC entrepreneurial slacker"] from [http://www.metroactive.com/ Metro Santa Cruz], published by Metro Newspapers. This is an entire article about NHS, Inc., the company that manufactures Santa Cruz Skateboards. Additionally, there's Associated Press coverage: [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=-nwhAAAAIBAJ&sjid=vogFAAAAIBAJ&pg=918,6391653&dq=santa-cruz-skateboards&hl=en "Skateboarders Across Nation Find They Are Defying Law and Gravity"]. These reliable sources were found after just a cursory web search, and it's very likely there are more available on the Internet, as well as in other mediums. Northamerica1000 (talk) 23:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

::The second source is just a trivial mention, not significant coverage. If I understand the first one correctly, it argues that there is no company called "Santa Cruz Skateboards"? That the basic premise of our article is wrong, that the company is actually NHS, Inc., and that "Santa Cruz Skateboards" is just a brand name? While I doubt whether a Metro Santa Cruz article is sufficient to bestow notability on a Santa Cruz company, if we were to "keep" the article, we would have to rewrite it from scratch under a different title, probably NHS Inc. - so what exactly would be kept? Huon (talk) 23:42, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

• Keep. Searches for the names of the founders along with "Santa Cruz" and "skateboard" provide ample evidence of the company's notability. See [http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_11607387?nclick_check=1 Mercury], [http://sports.espn.go.com/action/skateboarding/news/story?id=6569674 EPSN], [http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/59801927.html?dids=59801927:59801927&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Apr+17%2C+1988&author=MARY+ANN+GALANTE&pub=Los+Angeles+Times+(pre-1997+Fulltext)&desc=HECK+ON+WHEELS+Skateboarding's+More+Than+20+Million+Practitioners+Fuel+Booming+Market+That's+Giving+Pause+to+Surfing+Industry&pqatl=google LA Times], [http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_12707303 Mercury], [http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/sports/ci_16055040 a more local source], etc. No objection to retitling the article to the company name. ^Bongo_matic 02:58, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 05:12, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 05:13, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 05:13, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

• keep — per Bongomatic. there are many, many sources which attest to the notability of this brand of skateboards. yes, the article is crappy and doesn't use the references available. this can be fixed by editing, and is not a reason for deletion. i also have no objection to moving article to NHS, although creating a redirect would do just as well. — alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 05:22, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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