Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St Hugh's Boat Club

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Extremely far from meeting WP:ORG. Anything worth saying should be included in St Hugh's College, Oxford (and yes this probably applies to the majority of articles listed in Template:Oxford_University_Rowing_Clubs and Template:Cambridge_University_Rowing_Clubs too) SmartSE (talk) 12:59, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. SmartSE (talk) 12:59, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:31, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

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:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 14:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

I think 'mising the point' is the best way to describe this nomination for deletion. What are the two most famous rowing clubs in the world, Oxford and Cambridge is the answer and what forms Oxford and Cambridge crews, the constituent Oxford and Cambridge college rowing clubs. A mention on the relevant college page really does not do the subject justice. Does that also mean we should nominate every rowing club for deletion. Here is the United Kingdom template to use for the deletion process Template:United Kingdom rowing clubs. We can work on other countries afterwards. Lets get deleting instead of enriching Wikipedia. Racingmanager (talk) 14:14, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|Racingmanager}} your argument is WP:INHERITED - not a valid one. As I said in the nomination, probably yes, most of those clubs do not meet our notability requirements. SmartSE (talk) 18:56, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

This year the 2021 Oxford women's crew will have a St Hugh's rower (Beth Bridgman) and it will be televised around the world. I would neither describe that as 'Extremely far from meeting WP:ORG' OR 'WP:INHERITED - not a valid one'. If this is the case then multiple articles on sport's team should be questioned i.e Isthmian League, over 80 teams listed with articles on each. Many of these teams can't even command an attendance of 100 people, what makes these notable when compared against a major rowing club? I suggest that the WP:ORG is way off the mark and needs to be looked at. I can find numerous other examples of cases like this. I would suggest that instead of editors blindly nominating articles for deletion that they research the subject and then ask adminstrators to re-assess the notability rules. I ask any editor to explain why Phoenix Sports F.C. (just one of the 80+ teams from the Isthmian League) is notable and St Hugh's Boat Club is not. Racingmanager (talk) 15:27, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|Racingmanager}} That argument is other stuff exists - if you think other articles are not notable, then please nominate them for deletion. SmartSE (talk) 11:09, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Note to closer for soft deletion: While this discussion appears to have no quorum, it is NOT eligible for soft deletion because it has been previously PROD'd (via summary). --Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

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• Delete. Fails to meet any WP notability standards. The issues are in large part the same as those addressed in the delete, recently, in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Green Templeton Boat Club. I would point especially to the comment there of User:Bilorv, which are especially helpful in this determination. And, as there is no better case here in this instance based on this article's similar failure to meet GNG, etc., the result should also be delete. 2603:7000:2143:8500:9C8C:CDC1:69E8:916D (talk) 03:48, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
• Weak Delete. I did find one good reference: {{cite book|url=https://www.google.com/books/edition/St_Hugh_s_One_Hundred_Years_of_Women_s_E/5vOvCwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0|title=St Hugh’s: One Hundred Years of Women’s Education in Oxford|editor=Penny Griffin|year=1986|publisher=Palgrave Macmillan UK|page=217-235}} This book covers the founding of the organization in 1973 and notes a successive winning streak during the 1980s in The Boat Race. However, this is just one good reference and doesn't meet the multiple sources criteria for WP:GNG on its own.4meter4 (talk) 14:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

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