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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stanley V. Henson, Jr.

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. —fetch·comms 00:48, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

=[[Stanley V. Henson, Jr.]]=

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Unreferenced WP:BLP and probably fails WP:NOTABILITY to boot. As to the first (BLP), he does have an IMDB bio [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2468066/bio here], but this Wikipedia article is so long that probably 98% is unreferenced. There are no other sources on the web that I can find. (There are five entries in the References section of the article, but none of them actually mention Henson. For instance, the first reference just generally describes the town where he grew up, etc.)

OK so it could be pared down to a stub, based in the IMBD bio, But before doing that work, I also don't think he's notable. As I said, there's nothing beyond the IMBD page, so he does not meet the WP:GNG. (Also, FWIW, The article was created by User:Sistaliz09, and she has only edited this article and his movie Rise above the silver and gold.) The one thing that any notability could hang on is that he did direct two movies -- but neither movie is notable. He's done other stuff that's interesting but does not rise to the level of notability. Herostratus (talk) 22:47, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. The subject's activity as a filmmaker is not sufficient to make him notable. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:21, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:06, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:06, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:TOOSOON. His actually short career and lack of coverage in reliable sources fails notability criteria. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete. Fails notability. All books and films are self-published. Lacks significant sources to establish notability as an actor beyond self-published press releases and social networking sites. This [http://bravenewtheaters.com/Equal+Opportunity notation] by subject indicates that his background in film was based on his employment as a security guard. Cindamuse (talk) 23:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment. The notation clearly states that Henson began his film career as a security guard on the set of Steven Spielberg’s set, “Back to the Future” AND as an assistant to Cicely Tyson, Yaphet Kotto and the late Ron O’Neal. As a production assistant on various sets and as a producer he gleaned and learned the art of film making, in addition to his studies in college. Also as an actor on Atlanta Child Murders and Playing with fire which are referneced on Imdb. Henson also studied under veteran actor Maurice Sneed.Sistaliz09 (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment. The subject of the article has to meet notability criteria found at WP:BIO. Specific areas where we are looking include WP:CREATIVE and WP:ENT. Of the two roles mentioned above, one was as an extra, while the other was uncredited. Work as a personal assistant does not establish notability, nor does his onset education or affiliation with Sneed. His work as a PA and producer is not verifiable and does not indicate notability according to established criteria. Take a look at the notability criteria and address those issues, providing reliable sources to support the claims. Cindamuse (talk) 18:10, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment. Article's author has removed AfD tag from article twice. Need help to re-add. I don't know how to do it without starting another AfD. Cindamuse (talk) 23:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
  • I restored the tags by going into the article's history, opening an old version (that had the tags) in the edit window, copying the tags, and pasting them back into the article. Herostratus (talk) 01:45, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Dang, if I don't learn something new every day. I never noticed the edit prompt up there next to the undo. Facepalm. Cindamuse (talk) 02:55, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment. Noticed that the author has posted comments on the article's talk page regarding deletion. It appears as a new author, she may not have been aware of how to participate in this discussion. (AGF) She was also not notified on her talk page. I have directed her to make comments on this page. Cindamuse (talk) 10:43, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
  • I took the liberty of moving her comments (lightly edited) from the article talk to here, they are immediately below.
  • Keep as article creator. Stanley V. Henson, Jr.'s page is relevant as a director and producer because:
  • He has directed Bill Cosby, Dick Gregory, Clifton Powell and a supermodel/actress who was discovered by Robert Altman, Georgianna Robertson.
  • He also owns all content for the two films that he has directed and produced.
  • His film "Rise above the silver and gold" premiered at several AMC Theaters in 2005 before being distributed on DVD.
  • Disqualifying this page to exist would also justify deleting the pages of Matty Rich, Spike Lee, Kasi Lemmons, Vincent Gallo, and Michael Winterbottom, whose films were equally independent and featured actors and actresses of less notoriety and celebrity status than that of Bill Cosby, Dick Gregory, Taraji P. Henson and Clifton Powell.

:It appears the editors are more concerned with their power than the necessity to improve Wikipedia. Sistaliz09 (talk) 08:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC) as formatted and edited by Herostratus (talk) 14:44, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment. Hi, yes I'm new to this, thanks for your assistance. I would like for the Rise above the silver and gold and the Stanley Henson page to be deleted. It's no big deal here, now I can't delete because someone made some minor grammar and formatting changes? To articles that you don't want here anyway? There is no balance. The comments are negative, mean spirited and insulting. I don't want the pages up anymore. Please delete. Since I am the author, what rights do I have if any? It seems like the editors with seniority have ego and power issues. Please just delete both pages. Thank you. Sistaliz09 (talk) 17:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

::I have placed the {{tl|db-author}} tag on the Stanley Henson page as you have requested it be deleted. If you are the main contributor, an Admin will probably delete it shortly. Otherwise, it may need to complete this AfD process first. --Korruski (talk) 08:25, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

  • If Henson directed Bill Cosby, it would have been in Bowl of Dreams, but [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1603386/fullcredits#cast the imdb entry] for that film doesn't mention Cosby (although Dick Gregory is in the film). FWIW the Wikipedia article on Bowl of Dreams was deleted. Herostratus (talk) 03:34, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Speedy Delete. I know this doesn't technically fall under the letter of G7 but it sure seems to fall under the spirit of it. 28bytes (talk) 04:17, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.