Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Temple, Indiana

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The cited history calls this Temple Station, which is what it looks like. I'm not seeing evidence it ever actually developed into a town. Mangoe (talk) 17:28, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Indiana. Shellwood (talk) 17:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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• A. Temple seems to have [https://indianamemory.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15078coll8/id/4624 gotten "Temple" platted] at least in the 1920s.
• It's on [https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1950_Census_Enumeration_District_Maps_-_Indiana_(IN)_-_Crawford_County_-_Crawford_County_-_ED_13-1_to_16_-_NARA_-_12031791.jpg this 1950 census map].
• [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/68323146?objectPage=625 Post office applications in 1903 and 1933] just reiterate that it was between English and Marengo. One of the PO applicants was A. Temple.
• [https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/001264897 This history] suggests it was on a historic road of pioneer days, and later supported a school and a church.

jengod (talk) 07:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Jengod, is this a vote to Keep this article?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:24, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete, along with all the other articles on unincorporated places. What is the point of these? If anyone thinks they are worth having at all, could they not be moved to a new article List of unincorporated places, with appropriate sub-headings Indiana etc.?
• Pinging User:Jengod since I neglected to in my relisting statement. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:06, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• :@Liz thanks for the ping. it's definitely not a keep vote. I love expanding geo-stubs and ghost towns articles to save them from deletion, but this one has a vanishingly thin trail, and is probably not encyclopedic, but I just don't have any enthusiasm for it either way. If someone wanted to improve it, maybe those links could help? I'm an inclusionist for the most part so my personal bar to actively vote delete is very high. jengod (talk) 23:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Keep, simply because there is a paper trail and there's many, many other communities that don't even have that, much less any info about it written on Wikipedia. It is also listed on Google Maps as Temple. SouthernDude297 (talk) 20:05, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

::GMaps uses WP as a source. Also, the "paper trail" problem is that many of those, particularly GNIS, has decided problems. Mangoe (talk) 22:13, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Final relist to see if any consensus can be achieved here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

::● Keep- per @SouthernDude297 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 14:05, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

::●Comment - There is a Quarry Called "Temple Quarry" right next to the coordinates of "Temple", May Have been part of the town. https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B020'34.0%22N+86%C2%B024'13.0%22W/@38.3420968,-86.4041743,2027m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d38.3427778!4d-86.4036111?entry=ttu 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 13:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: Doesn't appear to pass GNG. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 10:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. The "point" of such articles is to improve Wikipedia's coverage of local Indiana history. We have more than enough reliable sourcing to verify this was once a census-documented populated place and we have maps to locate it. We have [https://archive.org/details/historyofcrawfor00plea/page/506/mode/2up?q=temple biographies of soldiers from Temple] who died in WWI. We know the community had a post office for many years. Our presentism (historical analysis) seems to think such a small unincorporated place isn't notable, but most Hoosiers lived and died in farm communities exactly like this from the time of the American Civil War to WWI. BusterD (talk) 14:15, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

::Having looked at said history, it is most unsatisfactory as a source. There are lots of references to people named "Temple", and some passing references to people said to be "from" Temple (or buried there), but I searched in vain for anything about Temple; and frankly, compared to other such local histories, this one is even more heavily on the chatty and family-story end of things. There's nothing in it that I saw inconsistent with Temple being a locale around a railroad station. Mangoe (talk) 12:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Unreliable source (but generally useful directory of local cemeteries) findagrave.com [https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery-browse/Indiana/Crawford-County/Temple/Temple?id=city_47605 shows 3 cemeteries located in Temple]. The presence of these cemeteries and their almost 100 recorded graves, signal this was an inhabited place. BusterD (talk) 00:52, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

::Cemeteries show that there were people, but they are not indicative of towns. Finda-a-Grave also gives a zip code for Temple, which USPS does not agree with.

::I also must say that, going back to "platting", what I see isn't terribly consistent with the usual appearance of such places in the area. Platted towns in the upper midwest generally have a stereotypical square grid of streets, even it be only a single such square. partially formed. There's no sign of that here. It's also an act of planning, which in some cases we have explicit statements that the plans never came to fruition. If someone could give me any narrative about a town, I'd be pleased to put that in the article and withdraw this. The issue is that we aren't finding anything inconsistent with the best piece we have, which is that it was a RR station, apparently named after a local, which never developed beyond that though people hoped otherwise. Mangoe (talk) 12:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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