Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/China Taiwan stub split

The discussion over with these three categories, together with the templates linked to them, continues at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria#Geo-stubs proposal. — Instantnood 11:14 Mar 6 2005 (UTC)

I think it is too soon to talk about these categories here. There is active discussion in the stub sorting and template forums that must complete before we do anything here. --ssd 14:37, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Right. I've put up {{cdr}} on the categories pages, and therefore I put up a note here to tell people it was an ongoing discussion at WP:TFD. I did not expect anybody to vote or discuss here at this stage. Thanks Ssd. — Instantnood 20:56 Feb 26 2005 (UTC)

(see Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:China-geo-stub) — Instantnood 21:01, Feb 18 2005 (UTC)

:Oppose. Category is well populated. Courtland 00:14, 2005 Feb 19 (UTC)

:Oppose. --Viriditas | Talk 08:57, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

:Oppose. gidonb 10:33, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Please refer to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:China-geo-stub. It is not nominated for deleting, but spliting and renaming. — Instantnood 13:43, Feb 19 2005 (UTC)

• That should be handled at requested page moves. Not here. -- AllyUnion (talk) 11:46, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• It is currently handled at WP:TFD. — Instantnood 13:12 Feb 24 2005 (UTC)

(see Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:China-stub) — Instantnood 21:00, Feb 18 2005 (UTC)

:Oppose. Category is well populated. Courtland 00:15, 2005 Feb 19 (UTC)

:Oppose. --Viriditas | Talk 00:58, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

:Oppose. gidonb 10:33, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Please refer to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:China-stub. It is not nominated for deleting, but spliting and renaming. — Instantnood 13:43, Feb 19 2005 (UTC)

(see Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Taiwan-stub) — Instantnood 19:25, Feb 18 2005 (UTC)

• Strongly oppose all three deletions. You're joking, right? Three well-used categories that fit snugly into the way that stub-sorting works, all full of stubs where the editors working on these types of articles can find them. It ain't broke, don't try to fix it. Or, if you do want to fix stub-sorting categories, at least talk to the people working at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting about it before suggesting removing three important categories! Grutness|^hello? Image:Grutness.jpg 23:56, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose. Category is well populated. Courtland 00:16, 2005 Feb 19 (UTC)
• Oppose. --Viriditas | Talk 00:57, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

:Oppose. gidonb 10:33, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Please refer to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Taiwan-stub. It is not nominated for deleting, but renaming. — Instantnood 13:43, Feb 19 2005 (UTC)

• In that case, amend my vote to: Strongly oppose all three suggested splits. As I said, these categories fit snugly into the way that stub-sorting works. Splitting them would disrupt that schema. It ain't broke, don't try to fix it. Grutness|^hello? Image:Grutness.jpg 23:52, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

:Oppose all suggestions for renaming Taiwan stubs. gidonb 10:33, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The discussion over with these three categories, together with the templates linked to them, continues at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria#Geo-stubs proposal. — Instantnood 11:14 Mar 6 2005 (UTC)

After considerable discussion (which lasted for well over a month), the following compromise was reached on Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting as regards the geo-stub categories relating to the two entities referred to as China.

• Template:Taiwan-geo-stub -> :Category: Republic of China (Taiwan) geography stubs
• Template:China-geo-stub -> :Category: Mainland China geography stubs
• :Category:Mainland China geography stubs and :Category:Hong Kong geography stubs both to be subcategories of :Category:People's Republic of China geography stubs

:Category:China geography stubs is currently empty of articles (all that is left there is four Wikipedia template message pages), and just about ready for deletion.

China-related and Taiwan-related stubs are still to be dealt with. Grutness|^hello? Image:Grutness.jpg 07:16, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This seems to have resulted in a "no move" decision. De-listing. -- Beland 07:13, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)