Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Comics people

• Consensus appears to be: 1-The current categories are confusing and should be changed. 2-It is useful to distinguish between people who work on comic strips, people who work on comic books,and cartoonists. -User:Aranel ("Sarah")]] 01:05, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Is it just me, or do these need to be merged? -- Beland 19:44, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

• (39) :Category:Comic_book_artists
• (13) :Category:Comics_artists
• (1) :Category:Comics_book_artists

• (53) :Category:Comic_book_writers
• (8) :Category:Comics_writers
• (2) :Category:Comics_book_writers

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How about this:

Comics

Comics people

Comic book artists/writers

Comic strip artists/writers

User:Neutrality (hopefully!)]] 19:53, Oct 16, 2004 (UTC)

I've depopulated :Category:Comics_book_artists and :Category:Comics_book_writers so they can be summarily deleted. For what it's worth, I vote for :Category:Comic_book_artists over :Category:Comics_artists and I think artists and writers should have different categories, even if there is some overlap. Also, using a term like artist/writer in a category may cause confusion as people who do both tasks are usually called writer/artists, so putting non-drawing writers or non-writing artists in that cat might make people think they do both tasks. Gamaliel 20:03, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

:And I would also dispose of the "Comics people" category since there should not be very many subcategories and there shouldn't be any articles within that category. —Mike 20:41, Oct 16, 2004 (UTC)

:And please note that there is also :Category:Cartoonists to consider, a heavily populated category. It could easily take the place of the "Comic strip artists/writers" subcategory suggested above. MisfitToys 18:58, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)

:: Do you need separate comic book, comic strip, graphic novel artists (and also writers) categories? Why not one each for penciller/artist, inker/colorist, scenarioist/editor, and dialogist/writer? 132.205.15.4 17:55, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

:Delete :Category:Comics artists and :Category:Comics writers and instead use :Category:Comic book artists and :Category:Comic book writers, respectively, adding crossreferences to :Category:Cartoonists to both for the cases of notable writer-artists. -Sean Curtin 01:32, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

::Works for me -- the hierararchy Neutrality suggested, delete the 2 depopulated/defunct categories, Keep: ; :Category:Comics; :Category:Comic book artists; :Category:Comic book writers; :Category:Cartoonists. I'm neutral on :Category:Comics people, if someone feels it's needed, it won't bother me, but doesn't seem too useful to me, if it was just me I'd delete that one.Pedant 05:30, 2004 Nov 10 (UTC)

:::Is the idea that all comic strip writers and artists should go under :Category:Cartoonists? -User:Aranel ("Sarah")]] 17:53, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

:If people want to suggest these categories for deletion, they should put the appropriate template messages on the categories. I only just now realized that these categories were up for deletion. Now, my take on this: comic book writers/artists are not the same people who work on comic strips or cartoons, hence there should be separate categories. I strongly feel that merging people who work only on comic strips or cartoons into comic book categories is a bad idea, as is the reverse (merging people who work only in comic books into a category about cartoons or comic books). Out of the categories, these should be deleted:

::* :Category:Comics book artists

::* :Category:Comics book writers

:The rest, given here, should be kept:

::* :Category:Cartoonists

::* :Category:Comic book artists

::* :Category:Comic book writers

::* :Category:Comics artists

::* :Category:Comics writers

:—Lowellian (talk) 15:57, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

:Let me put it this way, people like Mort Walker, Bill Watterson, and Scott Adams are clearly comic strip writers and artists. They are clearly also not comic book writers and artists. People like Todd McFarlane and Frank Miller are clearly comic book writers and artists, and clearly not comic strip writers and artists. —Lowellian (talk) 16:02, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

::How would you feel about moving from :Category:Comics artists to :Category:Comic strip artists for clarity? :Category:Comics artists is somewhat ambiguous. -User:Aranel ("Sarah")]] 16:33, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

:::One thing no-one has mentioned in all the above is that cartoonist and comic strip artist are not interchangeable terms. Technically, a cartoon has a single frame, a comic strip does not. Gary Larson is a cartoonist, for instance, whereas Bill Watterson is a comic strip artist. I think the distinction is worth hanging on to. Grutness 11:34, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

::::Actually, I did mention it. That's why I advocated keeping the categories apart, including comic strip creators and cartoonists. —Lowellian (talk) 15:33, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

:Okay, how about we use these four categories:

::* :Category:Cartoonists

::* :Category:Comic book artists

::* :Category:Comic book writers

::* :Category:Comic strip creators

:These four categories make all the necessary distinctions (comic strip creators tend to be both writers and artists). —Lowellian (talk) 15:33, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

::What's more, Cb writers and Cb artists are natural subcategories of Cb creators.Grutness 00:23, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)