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== Category:Mountain bike trails in Wales ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:27, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Mountain bike trails in Wales to :Category:Mountain biking venues in Wales

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. Naming according to parent category. Kslotte (talk) 22:39, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Rename per nom for consistency. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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== Category:Mountain biking magazines and journalists ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:26, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Mountain biking magazines and journalists to :Category:Mountain biking magazines

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. Category contains currently only magazines. Journalists moved to own category. Kslotte (talk) 21:28, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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== Category:Shopping centers by year of establishment ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:25, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Shopping centers by year of establishment to :Category:Shopping malls by year of establishment

:Nominator's rationale: Also rename all subcategories from "centers" to "malls", per the main article Shopping mall and :Category:Shopping malls in the United States and related categories. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 19:50, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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==== Category:Football League of Ireland ====

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge:

:* :Category:Football League of Ireland to :Category:FAI League of Ireland

:* :Category:League of Ireland to :Category:FAI League of Ireland

:To follow name of parent article. Jafeluv's concerns over anachronistic application noted, but parent article under present name addresses all aspects of the League, past and present. Additionally, overwhelming bias of material in these two categories does appear to be contemporary. --Xdamrtalk 12:13, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

:Suggest merging :Category:Football League of Ireland to :Category:League of Ireland

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. Two categories addressing the same topic, merge to the proper name. Tassedethe (talk) 17:56, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Rename/Merge both to :Category:FAI League of Ireland to match the main article FAI League of Ireland, though possibly FAI - possibly Football Association of Ireland - should be expanded. Peterkingiron (talk) 20:48, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment. The league has a long history as League of Ireland, and the "FAI" was only added recently. I don't think it would be correct to categorize everything in this category under the "FAI" title. Jafeluv (talk) 06:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

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== Category:MODO Hockey players ==

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:The result of the discussion was: speedy rename. No need to list here if you've already [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Speedy&diff=prev&oldid=315142654 listed] it under speedy. Jafeluv (talk) 18:39, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:MODO Hockey players to :Category:Modo Hockey players

:Nominator's rationale: Rename per WP:MOSTM. RandySavageFTW (talk) 19:03, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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== Category:Mountain biking races and events ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename all. Jafeluv (talk) 06:23, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Mountain biking races and events to :Category:Mountain biking events

:Propose renaming :Category:Mountain biking races and events in Canada to :Category:Mountain biking events in Canada

:Propose renaming :Category:Mountain biking races and events in South Africa to :Category:Mountain biking events in South Africa

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. Simplifying according to earlier discussion. A race is also an event. Kslotte (talk) 15:18, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

:::I have amalgamated these three nominations as they raise precisely the same issue with the same reason for each. No view on underlying issue. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:45, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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== Category:Iranian Made Submarines ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:18, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Iranian Made Submarines to :Category:Submarines of Iran

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. Naming style in :Category:Submarines by country. Tassedethe (talk) 14:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Rename per nom. If Iran has any non Iranian-built they would make a suitable subcategory for the target. I note that the "main article" is a redlink. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Rename per nominator. BTW, I think this should be a speedy criteria. Debresser (talk) 17:56, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Rename per nom. — Bellhalla (talk) 14:50, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

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== Batman film subcategories ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Upmerge. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:02, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Relisted from Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_September_11#Batman film subcategories for further comment. --Xdamrtalk 11:15, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

:*{{Lc|Batman Returns}}

:*{{Lc|Batman & Robin (film)}}

:*{{Lc|Batman Forever}}

:*{{Lc|Batman (1989 film)}}

:*{{Lc|Batman: Gotham Knight}}

:*{{Lc|Batman: The Animated Series films}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. The first five are self titled categories dealing with individual films. Each contains a limited number of articles that should already be interlinked, covered by a navigation box, or tangential (example songs not written for but used in the films). The sixth is an unneeded fine grain splitting of of two of its parent categories - :Category:Animated Batman films and :Category:DC animated universe films. J Greb (talk) 17:04, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

::The live action films (#1-4) can colapse back to :Category:Batman films, the remainder (#5-6) can colabe back to :Category:Animated Batman films. The material in #6 can also colapse back to :Category:DC animated universe films. - J Greb (talk) 01:48, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Delete I would think (or upmerge per J Greb's outline). I don't see these as organizing material that should be kept together. As Occuli says, it's all kind of loosely connected material. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:13, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

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==Hockey players==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:28, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Singaporean hockey players to :Category:Singaporean field hockey players

:Propose renaming :Category:Olympic hockey players of Singapore to :Category:Olympic field hockey players of Singapore

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. Hockey is ambiguous so in this case it should be field hockey (see :Category:Hockey players). Tassedethe (talk) 10:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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==Ohio State University Buckeyes==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:16, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Ohio State University Buckeyes soccer to :Category:Ohio State Buckeyes soccer

:Propose renaming :Category:Ohio State University Buckeyes media to :Category:Ohio State Buckeyes media

:Propose renaming :Category:Ohio State University Buckeyes athletes to :Category:Ohio State Buckeyes athletes

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. Remove University per the parent article Ohio State Buckeyes and :Category:Ohio State Buckeyes athletics. Tassedethe (talk) 09:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Rename per nom Suggested rename is standard in WP Mayumashu (talk) 01:11, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

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== Category:NKT Lamas ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:NKT Lamas to :Category:New Kadampa Tradition Lamas

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. Expand acronym to match lead article New Kadampa Tradition. Tassedethe (talk) 08:47, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Rename per nominator, and per guideline to avoid abbreviations. Debresser (talk) 17:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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== Category:Mobile game companies ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:06, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Mobile game companies to :Category:Mobile phone game companies

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match parent cat :Category:Mobile phone games and similar cats like :Category:Mobile phone game developers. Tassedethe (talk) 08:12, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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==Mixed martial arts fighters==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename all per nom. --Xdamrtalk 11:43, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Middleweight mixed martial arts fighters to :Category:Middleweight mixed martial artists

:Propose renaming :Category:Welterweight mixed martial arts fighters to :Category:Welterweight mixed martial artists

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. The correct term is Mixed martial artists as per parent :Category:Mixed martial artists. Tassedethe (talk) 08:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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== Category:Supervalu ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:15, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Supervalu to :Category:SuperValu (United States)

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. Change ambiguous name to match lead article. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:08, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Rename per nominator. Debresser (talk) 17:54, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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== Category:A&P ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:14, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:A&P to :Category:The Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. Expand ambiguous acronym to match lead article. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:55, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Rename to make the category naming match what ought to be the main article. Right now the {{tl|catmore}} tag doesn't have a specific article name referenced, so it is pointing to the disambiguation page at A&P (based on defaulting to match the category name), but clearly every article in the category is related to The Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company. --RL0919 (talk) 23:14, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Rename per both above. Debresser (talk) 17:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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== Category:Thames-Coromandel ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Thames-Coromandel to :Category:Thames-Coromandel District

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match the article (Thames-Coromandel District) and other categories on districts of New Zealand. Grutness...wha? 01:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Rename per nom. --RL0919 (talk) 23:15, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Rename per nominator. Debresser (talk) 17:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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== Category:Formal systems ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Discussion moved to WT:WikiProject Logic. Jafeluv (talk) 06:39, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Formal systems}}

:Nominator's rationale: The meaning here seems to be a fork of formal language and/or logical system; it is impossible to determine what should be in the category. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 00:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

  • comment -- the category should contain articles generally relevant to formal systems (as currently comprised), and there should also be a :Category:Formal systems by type category to contain the various types.
  • 'comment what does main article tell us? Hmains (talk) 01:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, both "logical system" and "formal system" can have several definitions, as well as informal meanings. A more detailed (ongoing) discussion is here. Perhaps we should decide what to do with the categories after the scope of the main article(s) is hammered out. Pcap ping 03:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
  • By the way, we have :Category:Systems of formal logic, but User:Gregbard is proposing that to be merged to :Category:logical calculi. I suspect he created this cat as a replacement of sorts. I think it's best we have a centralized discussion on this scheme on a WikiProject rather than a merry-go-round deletion/merging discussion. Pcap ping 03:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Good idea. I doubt that Greg and I could agree on the appropriate WikiProject, however. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 03:59, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
  • I started a centralized discussion on WikiProject Logic. It should be "neutral territory" between Mathematics and Philosophy :-) Pcap ping 04:03, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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