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== Category:Visitor attractions in Orange County, Florida ==

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. — ξxplicit 19:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Visitor attractions in Orange County, Florida}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. There is no need for this duplicate since the category :Category:Visitor attractions in Greater Orlando has been created and accepted by consensus. Marc Averette (talk) 23:16, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Gargoyle albums ==

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:The result of the discussion was: speedily deleted by creator and sole editor, User:J Milburn. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:45, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Gargoyle albums}}

:Nominator's rationale: Main article Gargoyle which this albums category is for has been deleted. Also category now has only one item which has a speedy deletion tag and prod tag on it. -- RP459 Talk/Contributions 23:06, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Tomás de Torrejón y Velsco ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξxplicit 21:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:Convert to article :Category:Tomás de Torrejón y Velsco to article Tomás de Torrejón y Velsco

:Nominator's rationale: Category only contains an image. Better as an article (if possible). Failing, that: delete Jubileeclipman 21:50, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Delete. The image is being moved to commons. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:53, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Barefootedness ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξxplicit 21:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Barefootedness}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete by WP:OC#TRIVIA and shared name, imo. While I have seen attempts to use Wikipedia to promote the barefoot "movement" (and dare I say, fetishism) in the past, the category creator is making a good faith attempt to establish a category. However, I believe this category is a largely grouping of things not truly defined by "barefootedness." "Barefoot doctors" and "barefoot and pregnant" are terms that happen to have barefoot in the name but are not really about being barefoot, in essence. "Natural hoove care" speaks for itself, I think, as horses do not have "feet" in our sense of the word. And Nike Free and VivoBarefoot are merely shoe brands that attempt to provide a more natural feel when worn. If we remove the more questionable entries we are left with a rather small category. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:36, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

:Delete. - The Bushranger (talk) 13:03, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

:Keep. Thank you Shawn for a detailed explanation in the nomination, and for assuming good faith. As category creator, here is my reasoning: “barefootedness” is a well-defined concept and category, complementary to “shoes”, and properly as much a part of “footware” as “atheism” is part of “religion”.

:It’s primarily an attempt to categorize existing articles on aspects of human barefootedness (e.g., barefootedness generally, the social movement, parks, running, skiing), together with cultural associations (barefoot and naked, barefoot doctors), shoes designed to emulate barefootedness, and barefootedness in other creatures (notably horses). It’s not a huge category, but nor is it terribly small.

:In fact, it’s probably better to categorize as part of “footware” and not in “social movements”, since only some of the articles are about barefootedness as a social movement (and the movement itself may be a small category; one could imagine “Laws regarding barefootedness” etc. though, so it’s not without growth potential).

:Regarding the shoes, as VivoBarefoot suggests by the very name, the design of this shoe (and ones with similar intentions – Masai Barefoot Technology, Nike Free, etc.) is to emulate barefootedness – they are specifically associated with barefootedness, as the referenced articles indicate and the name often suggests.

:Regarding natural hoof care, horse do in fact have feet, and are habitually shod. This is a distinct concept from human barefootedness, but “Animal barefootedness” does seem a small category, so I though it best to include in a broad “barefootedness” category – while I think this is a valid and useful category, subcategories would likely be too small.

:Without a category, the pages would still be ultimately discoverable (via links from Barefoot, ultimately), but would be less well organized and connected, which is precisely the purpose of categories.

::—Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 19:12, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Delete. I'm not convinced that there's a substantial enough connection between all of these articles to justify a category. The examples already cited prove the point well. Barefoot doctor, barefoot and pregnant, natural hoof care? Mmm.... no. To some extent it's overcategorization by shared word; in another sense it's overcategorization by anthropomorphizing animals. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:28, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Heathcliff ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to {{Cat|Heathcliff (comic strip)}}. — ξxplicit 21:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Heathcliff}}

:Nominator's rationale: Overly small category with no chance of expansion. Categorizes only one comic strip and three derivative works of the same. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 18:50, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak keep I would say that there is a fairly reasonable chance of expansion, considering it is an old, popular, and long lasting comic strip, with several adaptations to different media, and various collectibles that might generate articles. 70.29.208.247 (talk) 04:41, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep but rename to :Category: Heathcliff (comic strip) as those not conversant with the funny pages are going to think Wuthering Heights instead of "cartoon cat". Mangoe (talk) 03:06, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep but remame per above. - The Bushranger (talk) 05:14, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Printing issues ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:50, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Printing issues}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. Issues is a strange grouping, this category is an unnecessary subcategory of :Category:Printing. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:19, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Cities, towns and villages in Abkhazia ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename and delete as nominated. — ξxplicit 21:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Cities, towns and villages in Abkhazia to :Category:Populated places in Abkhazia

:Propose deleting :Category:Settlements in Abkhazia

:Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia talk:Categorization/Categorising human settlements and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 April 17#Category:Settlements. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:53, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Rename per linked discussion. --TorriTorri(Talk to me!) 20:54, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
  • I prefer "Communities" to "Populated places", which sounds rather awkward. But there seems to be a good bit of consensus (a quite rare beastie!) for "Populated places", so I won't rock the boat. Support. - The Bushranger (talk) 13:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Support, in coordination with the others. Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:16, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Settlements in the Arctic ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to {{Cat|Populated places in the Arctic}}. — ξxplicit 21:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Settlements in the Arctic to :Category:Populated arctic places:Category:Populated Arctic places

:Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia talk:Categorization/Categorising human settlements and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 April 17#Category:Settlements. This is the intended format for this category and its subcats (i.e {{cl|Populated Arctic places of Finland}}); subcats will be nominated for rename with the other categories for their countries. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:44, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

::It should be "Arctic". Always capitalised. The highly esteemed CBW presents the Talk Page! 13:42, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Settlements by year of disestablishment ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename all. — ξxplicit 21:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Propose renaming:

Reason: Per Wikipedia talk:Categorization/Categorising human settlements and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 April 17#Category:Settlements. Note that I have tagged the parent category and the decade categories, but not the individual years. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:35, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Juno Awards ==

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:The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator. — ξxplicit 21:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Juno Awards to :Category:Juno Award

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. The main article is Juno Award: not plural. However the main category above is plural? As of 28 April 2010, the sub category is :Category:Juno Award winners. No "s" on Juno. Inconsistent naming between the parent and child categories. I am looking to bring naming consistency to items under it's parent :Category:Canadian music awards. Argolin (talk) 09:12, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

:* There is also :Category:Academy Awards which has been discussed at cfd many times and its article is Academy Award. Occuli (talk) 10:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  1. :Category:Calixa-Lavallée Award
  2. :Category:East Coast Music Awards
  3. :Category:Jules Léger Prize
  4. :Category:Juno Awards
  5. :Category:Polaris Music Prize
  6. :Category:MuchMusic Video Awards

Argolin (talk) 10:51, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

:* Comment - these fall into 3 groups. The Calixa-Lavallée Award is an award made (usually) to one person per year. The Jules Léger Prize for New Chamber Music is awarded to one person per year; the Polaris Music Prize is given to 1 album per year. In contrast the Juno Awards are presented each year to many people in different categories, and there are many articles such as the :Juno Awards of 2001. :Category:MuchMusic Video Awards makes many awards each year: cf 2004 MuchMusic Video Awards. :Category:East Coast Music Awards only contains East Coast Music Association which has no sources and should probably be deleted along with the category. Occuli (talk) 17:20, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment. I'm generally in agreement with Occuli on this. It seems that if an award is just presented to one person per year, the corresponding category should be singular. If it's an award for which there are many "types" and multiple recipients in a year, like the Junos or the Academy Awards, the category should be pluralized. However, I note that we have :Category:Nobel Prize and not :Category:Nobel Prizes, which does not seem to follow this pattern. But I think we should. I guess you could say I oppose this change. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:53, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Withdraw as original nominator, I wish to withdraw it. Can an an administrator please close this discussion? Thank you. Argolin (talk) 23:26, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Indian American physicists ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Upmerge to :Category:American physicists and :Category:American people of Indian descent. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:39, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Indian American physicists to :Category:American scientists of Indian descent

:Nominator's rationale: too narrow a focus for this kind of category Mayumashu (talk) 02:25, 21 April 2010 (UTC)


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== Category:Juno Award winners ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:25, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Juno Award winners to :Category:Juno Award recipients

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. Trying to bring the Canadian music awards into line with other awards. Examples:

The music groups / musicians did not win a lotto prize. They are in receipt of an award. I am trying to bring consistency to items under :Category:Canadian music awards. Argolin (talk) 08:40, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose – there is :Category:Music award winners with a host of 'winners' subcats... I must say that 'award winner' seems to me to be a perfectly acceptable phrase and more common than 'award recipient' (as generally there is some sort of competition, with a winner). Occuli (talk) 08:58, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

:That's another the thing: competition. It's not a bicycle race. Recipients:[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/recipient] One who receives, such as one who receives money or goods. Argolin (talk) 09:34, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

::* 'And the recipient is ...' is not the usual phrase. There are plenty of competitions not involving bicycles. (You have tagged it as a speedy which it isn't.) Occuli (talk) 09:43, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

::* I have heard 'This year's recipient for this or that is...'. And competition: it is an award not a race (bike, boat, swim or otherwise). Thanks for your input. Argolin (talk) 10:07, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment. I honestly don't see what the problem with using either "winner" or "recipient" would be. You can certainly "win" something that is not a lotto or a race. The Junos are essentially a competition, in which people vote on who is most deserving. I'm leaning towards opposing this unless it can be demonstrated that "recipients" is universally used in awards categories on WP. But I'm not seeing that. Good Ol’factory (talk) 10:13, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

:I'm trying to bring a little more consistency in my world under :Category:Canadian music awards. Argolin (talk) 10:22, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

::As far as I can see the categories in that tree currently all use "winners". Aren't they already consistent? Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:48, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Withdraw as original nominator, I wish to withdraw it. Can an an administrator please close this discussion? Thank you. Argolin (talk) 23:08, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Overseas Chinese groups ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. — ξxplicit 21:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose merging :Category:Overseas Chinese groups to :Category:Chinese diaspora

:Nominator's rationale: mean the same thing and the standard WP category naming pattern is 'Fooian diaspora' - see subcats listed at :Category:Diasporas Mayumashu (talk) 01:09, 21 April 2010 (UTC)


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  • Merge. Right or wrong, I believe this is standard and fairly universal now. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:33, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Mortgage-backed security ==

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. — ξxplicit 19:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Mortgage-backed security}}

:Nominator's rationale: This category is ill populated and those are better covered by other categories. Furthermore it does not fit under "securities" or "fixed income securities." It is ill defined also. Greg Bard 21:33, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


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  • Keep and populate I'm not sure why a type of "security" wouldn't fit under "securities". I would observe that of the three types listed in Mortgage-backed security having articles, none of them is in the category, for whatever reason. There is some sort of a categorization issue that needs to be resolved here. Mangoe (talk) 10:54, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Agree with Mangoe. Since this was a major element in the Credit Crunch, we ought to be able to have a category on it. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:35, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Video board games ==

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. — ξxplicit 21:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Video board games to :Category:Board game video games

:Nominator's rationale: More clear title. I'm neutral. Suggested on WT:VG NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs/Vote! 05:11, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Keep. Category name is poor, but suggestion isn't much of an improvement, keep until a better name is offered. Szzuk (talk) 20:21, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


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  • Keep. Current name seems to be the least of the possible evils for this one. - The Bushranger (talk) 13:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Cuban-American architects ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Upmerge to :Category:American people of Cuban descent and :Category:American architects. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:42, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose merging :Category:Cuban-American architects to :Category:American people of Cuban descent, :Category:American architects of Latin American descent, and possibly :Category:Architects of Cuban descent

:Nominator's rationale: too narrow a focus for a cat of this nature (and with only one link populating it). Mayumashu (talk) 04:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


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== Category:Soils by country ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. 07:24, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Soils by country to :Category:Soil by country

:Nominator's rationale: Rename so that it can be populated with a wider range of articles, ie. soil and soil related articles. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 00:18, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


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== Category:Anglican Church of New Zealand ==

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:The result of the discussion was: {{Relisted}} at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 May 18#Category:Anglican Church of New Zealand. — ξxplicit 19:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Anglican Church of New Zealand to :Category:Anglican Church in Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. The official name of this church is Anglican Church in Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia. Suggest renaming the category to match the main article. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment - However, there are other Anglican denominations in NZ that are not in communion with the ACANZP (and therefore Canterbury). While they don't yet have NZ-specific articles, we still need to allow for their inclusion in an appropriate category. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:50, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

:* Then it would be called :category:Anglicanism in New Zealand (perhaps under :category:Anglicanism by country) and the "Church in A, NZ, & P" would be a sub-cat, (which should also go under :category:Anglican denominations. --Kevlar (talkcontribs) 23:33, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment (nom). Given the circumstances, I think renaming to {{Cat|Anglicanism in New Zealand}} would be a good idea. There is an argument that that in fact what was intended, since a subcategory is {{cat|New Zealand Anglicans}}, and not all New Zealand Anglicans are members of the Anglican Church in Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia. I think it's better at this stage to have the broader category rather than the more specific one that I proposed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:08, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:Films with two parts ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:02, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Films with two parts}}

:Nominator's rationale: Pointless and excessively minute category that has no definition nor seeming real critieria and we already have :Category:Film series and its subcats. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 03:20, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

:Delete. Movies that truly have two parts might well fit under :Category:Film serials instead of/in addition to :Category:Film series. As for this, however, it's hopelessly broad and ill-defined - for instance, it has already attracted a "Foo"/"Foo 2" pair as a "film with two parts". - The Bushranger (talk) 13:13, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

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== Category:People from Saint-Isidore, Prescott and Russell ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to {{Cat|People from Prescott and Russell, Ontario}}. — ξxplicit 21:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:People from Saint-Isidore, Prescott and Russell to :Category:People from St. Isidore, Ontario

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. When a place in Canada needs disambiguation, the normal way to do it is to include the province or territory the place is located in. This category uses the county. Note that this also brings the name into conformity with the article St. Isidore, Ontario. — Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:05, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Rename as per nom. Mayumashu (talk) 01:15, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
  • In truth, we really don't need this at all under either name; St. Isidore is just a neighbourhood within a municipality, not a town in its own right, and even its parent municipality doesn't have (and couldn't really support) its own dedicated "People from Place" category — and we certainly shouldn't be creating such categories for individual neighbourhoods whose parent municipalities don't even have them yet. Further, I see that it was created by an editor whose entire edit history so far has been one chunk of deletion bait after another. Delete and upmerge entries back to {{cl|People from Prescott and Russell, Ontario}}. Bearcat (talk) 09:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Fine by me (nominator). Good Ol’factory (talk) 11:38, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
  • I d go with Bearcat's suggestion as well Mayumashu (talk) 19:23, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
  • I'll third (fourth?) that. - The Bushranger (talk) 06:49, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • On pretty much the same grounds as my earlier comment, can we kill its sister {{cl|People from Embrun, Ontario}} at the same time, please? Bearcat (talk) 06:26, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Also fine with me, although the closer may require a new nomination. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

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