Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 May 15#More settlements

• Support, but let's get the rest of these country categories into this nomination whenever the nominator has time. We have precedent, so there's no need to wait.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:15, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
• Note still adding. Help would be nice, it is not hard, just boring, since it is mostly copy and pasting. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:34, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
• I'm sorry, but I thought we had a bot for this. Can we use it?--Mike Selinker (talk) 04:12, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
• Comment We seem to be on parallel paths here; I just encountered this CfD on :Category:Former populated places in Mexico where I was about to place a CfR to :Category:Formerly populated places in Mexico. I've already done so on the parallel Canada, Greenland, Central America ones and am about to do the same to "in the United States". Please be mindful of correct English grammar/usages when proposing/changing category names!!Skookum1 (talk) 22:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
• That was discussed in the early changes of the former categories. I believe the consensus was to use former over formerly. Anyone have the time to look up that discussion? Vegaswikian (talk) 23:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
• Actually there were two previous nominations in this area. The last was here and the first where the former v formerly issue was raised. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:12, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
• I proposed "Formerly" before, but quickly withdrew the suggestion after it was made clear that it wasn't "places that were once populated" but rather "Populated places that have lost their designations."--Mike Selinker (talk) 04:12, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
• Support. I consider this to be mere rubber-stamping as there has already been a comprehensive discussion in a previous debate. __meco (talk) 07:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

:::You realise that you've missing tons of existing sub categories which are still named c , t and v in /.. Province. What about Afghanistan, Nepal, Bulgaria :Category:Settlements in Brazil by region etc? It isn't just Syria, it is tens of other countries. If you are changing the parent categories then you must also change the sub categories from cities, towns and villages. You've even missed countries like :Category:Cities, towns and villages in Costa Rica. If this must be done please esnure that all categories which have the cities, towns and villages naming or "Settlements" naming are fully changed. I suggest you carefully go through each country and list the ones which are split into provinces ordering. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 21:27, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

::::Take a look at this subsequent nomination.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:58, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. For the time being, I'm going to merge this so that the convention of :Category:South African football (soccer) players is followed. Among its six sub-cats, :Category:South Africa international footballers is the odd man out, so it will be merged into :Category:South Africa international football (soccer) players for now. A full changeover to using association football should be done by nominating the entire South African tree, not one piece at a time. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 05:27, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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:Propose merging :Category:South Africa international footballers and :Category:South Africa international football (soccer) players

:Nominator's rationale: No need for both cats. Consensus should be reached about a rename. Perhaps including "association football" in title to avoid disambiguation with other football codes common in South Africa. DjlnDjln (talk) 23:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Merge both to :Category:South Africa international association footballers for clarity, particularly within the SA context. Mayumashu (talk) 00:46, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
• Rename per nomination. We should not be doing the transition to "association footballers" piecemeal. I do support that change overall, but in a deluge, not a trickle.--Mike Selinker (talk) 20:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename all. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 09:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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:Propose renaming :Category:TAD albums to :Category:Tad (band) albums

:Propose renaming :Category:TAD video albums to :Category:Tad (band) video albums

:Nominator's rationale: Per main article, Tad (band). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. Occuli (talk) 22:55, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:17, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose deleting :Category:List of Palestinian record producers redundant to :Category:Palestinian record producers

:Nominator's rationale: "Palestinian record producers" would be a more suitable name; redundant. Airplaneman ✈ 21:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Both categories were created just a few minutes apart, with the correctly-named one coming later, so it's possible this was just an error that didn't get fully corrected. But it's true that they are redundant and the target is named properly. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 09:48, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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:Propose merging :Category:Pacific Northwest Ballet to :Category:Ballet companies in the United States and :Category:Pacific Northwest

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. Merge into both parents. Single entry category with limited short term expansion. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:36, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ξ^xplicit 19:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Support merge per the nominator's rationale. Airplaneman ✈ 21:59, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Triple upmerge into proposed targets and {{cl|Controversies in the United States}}. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:20, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose merging :Category:2006 controversies in the United States to :Category:2006 controversies and :Category:2006 in the United States

:Propose merging :Category:2009 controversies in the United States to :Category:2009 controversies and :Category:2009 in the United States

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. There are not so many articles in the parent controversies by year as to require further subdivision by country. Tim! (talk) 17:35, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ξ^xplicit 19:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Upmerge both per nom, but also to :Category:Controversies in the United States (3rd parent). Occuli (talk) 22:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
• Upmerge to all three per Occuli. JackJud (talk) 11:08, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. — ξ^xplicit 22:37, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :category:QWERTY smartphones to :category:QWERTY mobile phones

:Nominator's rationale:QWERTY mobile phones are not necessarily smartphones. There are a few QWERTY keyboard mobile phone that are not clearly smartphones e.g. LG KS360 and Nokia C3. No dedicated :category QWERTY feature phones exists, nor should it be created because QWERTY phone is more or less independent from feature phone versus smartphone. Andries (talk) 16:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• See also [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Smartphone&diff=362413645&oldid=361857094] The definition of a smartphone was updated recently. Andries (talk) 11:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
• Note. Category is not tagged. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:28, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
• Support rename - The proposed name more accurately describes the articles in the category, as the nominator said. Airplaneman ✈ 22:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 04:39, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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:Propose renaming :Category:Mexican Plateau states by state to :Category:Mexican Plateau states

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. "by state" is unnecessary here. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 06:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Support rename - the "by state" isn't necessary, as the nominator said. Airplaneman ✈ 22:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename all. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 09:53, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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:Propose renaming:

:*:Category:Loyola College in Maryland to :Category:Loyola University Maryland

:*:Category:Loyola College in Maryland alumni to :Category:Loyola University Maryland alumni

:*:Category:Loyola College in Maryland faculty to :Category:Loyola University Maryland faculty

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. The school adopted the "University" designation in August 2009. Dale Arnett (talk) 05:13, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Support rename of all per the university's new name: Loyola University Maryland. Airplaneman ✈ 22:03, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated. — ξ^xplicit 21:04, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Activists for Japanese-American civil rights to :Category:Japanese-American civil rights activists

:Nominator's rationale: Restore the previous name for the category, as not all members of the category were activists specifically for Japanese-American civil rights. Some petitioned for Asian American civil rights. Others such as Richard Aoki participated in larger civil rights movements.Myasuda (talk) 04:30, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Request - could we have some info on why the previous one was renamed, and how? (It seems to have been :Category:Japanese American civil rights activists.) The 2 categories seem to me to be quite different. Occuli (talk) 13:47, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

:I'm also curious about the rationale for the prior rename -- I took a quick look for the related discussion but couldn't find it. Since the history of :Category:Activists for Japanese-American civil rights mentions the user Mayumashu, I've placed a request at User talk:Mayumashu for more information. — Myasuda (talk) 14:10, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

::* Google suggests it was a speedy nominated by Mayumashu. See eg [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dileUmK1YIsJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Categories_for_speedy_renaming+site:en.wikipedia.org+%22Japanese-American+civil+rights+activists%22&cd=15&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk cached page]. It shouldn't have been a speedy. :Category:Latino civil rights activists is being speedied by M at the moment, but in a different direction. Occuli (talk) 14:57, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Rename (then) to :Category:American civil rights activists of Japanese descent (as per standard :Category:American people of Japanese descent). I thought that listed were activists for Japanese-American rights, but if some petitioned for Asian-American rights and not particularly Japanese-American ones, then, indeed, the rename was erroneous. Mayumashu (talk) 15:35, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
• remame per nom A review of the articles shows the people worked for civil rights (Japanese or more general), not just 'activism', whatever that is. Hmains (talk) 17:56, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename all. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:38, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming:

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• :Category:Austrian albums to :Category:Albums by Austrian artists
• :Category:Azerbaijani albums to :Category:Albums by Azerbaijani artists
• :Category:Bangladeshi albums to :Category:Albums by Bangladeshi artists
• :Category:Belarusian albums to :Category:Albums by Belarusian artists
• :Category:Belgian albums to :Category:Albums by Belgian artists
• :Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina albums to :Category:Albums by Bosnia and Herzegovina artists
• :Category:Brazilian albums to :Category:Albums by Brazilian artists
• :Category:British albums to :Category:Albums by British artists
• :Category:Bulgarian albums to :Category:Albums by Bulgarian artists
• :Category:Canadian albums to :Category:Albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Chilean albums to :Category:Albums by Chilean artists
• :Category:Chinese albums to :Category:Albums by Chinese artists
• :Category:Colombian albums to :Category:Albums by Colombian artists
• :Category:Costa Rican albums to :Category:Albums by Costa Rican artists
• :Category:Croatian albums to :Category:Albums by Croatian artists
• :Category:Cuban albums to :Category:Albums by Cuban artists
• :Category:Czech albums to :Category:Albums by Czech artists
• :Category:Danish albums to :Category:Albums by Danish artists
• :Category:Dutch albums to :Category:Albums by Dutch artists
• :Category:Egyptian albums to :Category:Albums by Egyptian artists
• :Category:English albums to :Category:Albums by English artists
• :Category:Estonian albums to :Category:Albums by Estonian artists
• :Category:Finnish albums to :Category:Albums by Finnish artists
• :Category:French albums to :Category:Albums by French artists
• :Category:German albums to :Category:Albums by German artists
• :Category:Greek albums to :Category:Albums by Greek artists
• :Category:Hong Kong albums to :Category:Albums by Hong Kong artists
• :Category:Hungarian albums to :Category:Albums by Hungarian artists
• :Category:Icelandic albums to :Category:Albums by Icelandic artists
• :Category:Indian albums to :Category:Albums by Indian artists
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• :Category:Irish albums to :Category:Albums by Irish artists
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• :Category:Jamaican albums to :Category:Albums by Jamaican artists
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• :Category:Jordanian albums to :Category:Albums by Jordanian artists
• :Category:Kazakhstani albums to :Category:Albums by Kazakhstani artists
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• :Category:Lebanese albums to :Category:Albums by Lebanese artists
• :Category:Lithuanian albums to :Category:Albums by Lithuanian artists
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• :Category:Malian albums to :Category:Albums by Malian artists
• :Category:Mexican albums to :Category:Albums by Mexican artists
• :Category:Monegasque albums to :Category:Albums by Monegasque artists
• :Category:New Zealand albums to :Category:Albums by New Zealand artists
• :Category:Nigerian albums to :Category:Albums by Nigerian artists
• :Category:Norwegian albums to :Category:Albums by Norwegian artists
• :Category:Pakistani albums to :Category:Albums by Pakistani artists
• :Category:Panamanian albums to :Category:Albums by Panamanian artists
• :Category:Peruvian albums to :Category:Albums by Peruvian artists
• :Category:Philippine albums to :Category:Albums by Philippine artists
• :Category:Polish albums to :Category:Albums by Polish artists
• :Category:Portuguese albums to :Category:Albums by Portuguese artists
• :Category:Puerto Rican albums to :Category:Albums by Puerto Rican artists
• :Category:Romani albums to :Category:Albums by Romani artists
• :Category:Romanian albums to :Category:Albums by Romanian artists
• :Category:Russian albums to :Category:Albums by Russian artists
• :Category:Scottish albums to :Category:Albums by Scottish artists
• :Category:Senegalese albums to :Category:Albums by Senegalese artists
• :Category:Serbian albums to :Category:Albums by Serbian artists
• :Category:Singaporean albums to :Category:Albums by Singaporean artists
• :Category:Slovak albums to :Category:Albums by Slovak artists
• :Category:Slovenian albums to :Category:Albums by Slovenian artists
• :Category:South African albums to :Category:Albums by South African artists
• :Category:South Korean albums to :Category:Albums by South Korean artists
• :Category:Spanish albums to :Category:Albums by Spanish artists
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• :Category:French EPs to :Category:EPs by French artists
• :Category:German EPs to :Category:EPs by German artists
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• :Category:British folk albums to :Category:Folk albums by British artists
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• :Category:Brazilian heavy metal albums to :Category:Heavy metal albums by Brazilian artists
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• :Category:Japanese heavy metal albums to :Category:Heavy metal albums by Japanese artists
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• :Category:Swiss heavy metal albums to :Category:Heavy metal albums by Swiss artists
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• :Category:Ukrainian heavy metal albums to :Category:Heavy metal albums by Ukrainian artists
• :Category:Welsh heavy metal albums to :Category:Heavy metal albums by Welsh artists
• :Category:American jazz albums to :Category:Jazz albums by American artists
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• :Category:Canadian jazz albums to :Category:Jazz albums by Canadian artists
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• :Category:Canadian rock albums to :Category:Rock albums by Canadian artists
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• :Category:New Zealand rock albums to :Category:Rock albums by New Zealand artists
• :Category:Norwegian rock albums to :Category:Rock albums by Norwegian artists
• :Category:Polish rock albums to :Category:Rock albums by Polish artists
• :Category:Russian rock albums to :Category:Rock albums by Russian artists
• :Category:South African rock albums to :Category:Rock albums by South African artists
• :Category:Swedish rock albums to :Category:Rock albums by Swedish artists
• :Category:Turkish rock albums to :Category:Rock albums by Turkish artists
• :Category:American indie rock albums to :Category:Indie rock albums by American artists
• :Category:British indie rock albums to :Category:Indie rock albums by British artists
• :Category:Canadian alternative rock albums to :Category:Alternative rock albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian indie rock albums to :Category:Indie rock albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian progressive rock albums to :Category:Progressive rock albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian punk rock albums to :Category:Punk rock albums by Canadian artists

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• :Category:American albums by genre to :Category:Albums by genre by American artists :Category:Albums by American artists by genre
• :Category:Australian albums by genre to :Category:Albums by genre by Australian artists :Category:Albums by Australian artists by genre
• :Category:British albums by genre to :Category:Albums by genre by British artists :Category:Albums by British artists by genre
• :Category:Canadian albums by genre to :Category:Albums by genre by Canadian artists :Category:Albums by Canadian artists by genre
• :Category:Finnish albums by genre to :Category:Albums by genre by Finnish artists :Category:Albums by Finnish artists by genre
• :Category:French albums by genre to :Category:Albums by genre by French artists :Category:Albums by French artists by genre
• :Category:American country albums to :Category:Country albums by American artists
• :Category:American comedy albums to :Category:Comedy albums by American artists
• :Category:American hip hop albums to :Category:Hip hop albums by American artists
• :Category:American pop albums to :Category:Pop albums by American artists
• :Category:Australian blues albums to :Category:Blues albums by Australian artists
• :Category:Australian comedy albums to :Category: albums by Australian artists
• :Category:Australian country albums to :Category:Country albums by Australian artists
• :Category:Australian electronica albums to :Category:Electronica albums by Australian artists
• :Category:Australian hip hop albums to :Category:Hip hop albums by Australian artists
• :Category:Australian improvised music albums to :Category:Improvised music albums by Australian artists
• :Category:Australian pop albums to :Category:Pop albums by Australian artists
• :Category:Australian soul albums to :Category:Soul albums by Australian artists
• :Category:British comedy albums to :Category:Comedy albums by British artists
• :Category:British jazz albums to :Category:Jazz albums by British artists
• :Category:British pop albums to :Category:Pop albums by British artists
• :Category:Canadian blues albums to :Category:Blues albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian children's music albums to :Category:Children's albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian Christian music albums to :Category:Christian albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian classical albums to :Category:Classical albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian comedy albums to :Category:Comedy albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian country albums to :Category:Country albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian electronica albums to :Category:Electronica albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian hip hop albums to :Category:Hip hop albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian industrial albums to :Category:Industrial albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian New Wave albums to :Category:New Wave albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian pop albums to :Category:Pop albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian post-rock albums to :Category:Post-rock albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian reggae albums to :Category:Reggae albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian rhythm and blues albums to :Category:Rhythm and blues albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian soul albums to :Category:Soul albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian world music albums to :Category:World music albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian alternative country albums to :Category:Alternative country albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:Canadian indie pop albums to :Category:Indie pop albums by Canadian artists
• :Category:French hip hop albums to :Category:Hip hop albums by French artists
• :Category:French pop albums to :Category:Pop albums by French artists

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:Nominator's rationale: Rename all, following my proposal and ensuing discussion ({{Plainlink|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums&oldid=361413677#Albums_by_artist_categorization | name=permalink}}) at WT:ALBUMS. To summarize, I made this proposal to rename all the categories and subcategories of {{Cat|Albums by artist}} to use the Albums by Fooian artist, as opposed to its current scheme, Fooian albums. This is preceded by {{Cat|Films by director}}, as the scheme used by its subcategories is Films by Fooian directors, not Fooian films by director. Basically, the artists are the subjects that are being defined by nationality, not the albums themselves. Although albums can be nation-specific (for example, if an album is released only in Canada, I suppose it can be called a Canadian album), this category is not grouping albums by this method, nor do we currently categorize albums by nation-specific release; my arguments against such categorization can be found in the discussion linked in the opening sentence.

:Anywho, back to my proposal. I feel that categorizing albums under {{Cat|American albums}}, {{Cat|British albums}}, etc., is both misleading and incorrect. An album can't possibly be nationalized, especially if the album is recorded in a different country than that of the artist, or recorded in multiple countries. As the categories become more refined, the problem becomes all the more evident. For example, take a look at {{Cat|French hip hop albums}}. Personally, I see a big problem here. Are these pages categorized by albums of French hip hop? Perhaps hip hop albums in the French language, but not necessarily by French people? Or maybe exactly what it's supposed to be categorizing: hip hop albums by people of French nationality. And this is just one category. There are others with this exact same problem; there are categories that don't even exist yet, but would run into the exact same problem once they are created.

:I find that this current naming scheme is ambiguous at best, downright confusing at worst. The proposed renames of the categories would remove any confusion and would more adequately describe the contents of these categories. — ξ^xplicit 00:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Rename as nominated. This is a fantastic idea. These have always irked me because of their ambiguous/incorrect meaning. They always sound to me as if we are categorizing based on what country the album was produced in, which is not at all what is intended. This brings a lot of clarity to what now is, frankly, a long-standing dogs breakfast. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 01:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

::produced? rather, where they were sold. There was a time when UK and US releases were quite different. But it's so far gone, it hardly matters now. Are they still presing hardcopy CDs at all? East of Borschov (talk) 14:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Strong rename I have talked with Explicit about this same issue and I fully support his proposal. Is an "American album" one that was recorded in America? By Americans? For the American audience? These proposed names are more cumbersome, but more intelligible. Note that I have also nominated :Category:Compilation albums by country for renaming. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
• Rename all Per nom. Lugnuts (talk) 09:05, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. I was never confused about what was intended here, but enough other people were that it's certainly worth choosing a clearer and more transparent naming format. Bearcat (talk) 18:27, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
• Agree. Should it be Category: Albums by Fooian artist or artists, following the convention of the parent :Category:Albums by artist (or maybe that one should be changed to artists). The similarly-named song categories should follow suit. And should the genre cats be Category:Albums by Fooian artists by genre rather than Category:Albums by genre by Fooian artists? --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 20:42, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
• :The nomination pluralizes the Albums by Fooian artists as the subcategories of {{Cat|Films by director}} do; I'm not entirely sure if this follows a set naming convention, but it makes more sense to me. I do plan to bring {{Cat|Songs by country}} and several other categories that use the Fooian subject as opposed to Subject by Fooian whatever where needed. I didn't want to rush these nominations if they would fall through (although, this nomination seems to be running by smoothly). As for your last point, I think you're right, and I've amended six of the nominations under "Fooian albums by genre" accordingly. — ξ^xplicit 21:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
• Rename all to "by artist" rather than "by artists". All of the parallel categories—:Category:Films by director, :Category:Games by designer, et al.—do not pluralize. There's no reason to violate that protocol here.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
• :{{Cat|Albums by artist}} isn't being nominated, but the subcategories within. The subcategories of the examples you gave both have pluralized subcategories—just as examples, {{Cat|Films by American directors}}, {{Cat|Robin Laws games}} and so on. — ξ^xplicit 02:34, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
• ::You are most correct. Changing my vote to Rename all.--Mike Selinker (talk) 16:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
• Rename all per nom. – IbLeo^(talk) 14:25, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

*Comment Please include Quebec in the renaming proposed. Quebec is a regional music category, but I am told they are about to get their own portal. They must follow the new naming conventions proposed. Argolin (talk) 06:06, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

• :Which category would that be? I don't think I came across any type of Quebec albums or similar categories. — ξ^xplicit 06:35, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
• Rename. Concern considered by nominator. Argolin (talk) 02:31, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

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