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:The result of the discussion was: rename. — ξ^xplicit 06:25, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Tasmania legislation to :Category:Tasmanian legislation

:Nominator's rationale: Same as Tasmania law - unused in common speech by the inhabitants - always 'Tasmanian' SatuSuro 23:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• Comment I named it "Tasmania" for consistency with the only state legislation cat then in existence, which was :Category:Victoria (Australia) legislation. It says "Victoria" rather than "Victorian", so I named the other seven state and territory cats consistently. Feel free to move them, but the consistency will lost (although I suppose categories titles are subject to the same common usage provisos as article titles). You might also want to consider "Legislation of Tasmania", which avoids the adjective thing altogether. Dethroned Buoy (talk) 00:26, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

* Ugh, what a mess - keep as is for now in lieu of a broader discussion of naming conventions for law by country and sub-national division. No reason to make this inconsistent. Other English-speaking countries that have the equivalent of state-level categories use "Foo law" rather than "Fooian law" although there is diversity among the country-level cats. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 08:55, 9 September 2010 (UTC) Struck comment of indef-blocked sockpuppet. QuAzGaA 16:58, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

• South Australia law, Western Australia law, South Australia legislation, Western Australia legislation - is all patently absurd and I believe would bring wikipedia into disrepute as something created by non-native speakers of english, I do not know how such usage can be considered kosher - no-one in those jurisdictions use the terms in that way - foo or no foo - it is not usage that readers would be expected to find or refer to SatuSuro 12:34, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
• Rename per nom, & do the others too. Johnbod (talk) 20:34, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
• Rename per nom as the start of cleaning up this part of the tree. Vegaswikian1 (talk) 05:24, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:* Isn't it generally better not to do a rename in isolation like this? Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 20:43, 15 September 2010 (UTC) Struck comment of indef-blocked sockpuppet. QuAzGaA 16:58, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

::*Not to see if there is consensus. If there is, then the others can be nominated. If this fails, then this may not be the way to go. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:38, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: {{Relisted}} at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 October 2#Category:Tasmania law. — ξ^xplicit 06:25, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Tasmania law to :Category:Tasmanian law

:Nominator's rationale: This term as is is unused - it is always possessive - 'Tasmanian law' SatuSuro 23:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• Support Aaroncrick ^TALK 23:39, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
• Comment. The other subcategories of :Category:Australian law by jurisdiction don't use the possessive format—{{cat|Western Australia law}}, eg, rather than {{cat|Western Australian law}}. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to bring inconsistency into the category tree or not. Whatever is done, a category redirect should appear on the other version. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 01:12, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
• Reply I believe the usage in Australia is possibly that they dont like an open 'a' as an ending for these items SatuSuro 12:36, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

* Ugh, what a mess - keep as is for now in lieu of a broader discussion of naming conventions for law by country and sub-national division. No reason to make this inconsistent. Other English-speaking countries that have the equivalent of state-level categories use "Foo law" rather than "Fooian law" although there is diversity among the country-level cats. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 06:53, 9 September 2010 (UTC) Struck comment of indef-blocked sockpuppet. QuAzGaA 01:12, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

• Rename to :Category:Law of Tasmania 76.66.200.95 (talk) 04:29, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:Propose merging :Category:Epic Sony Record games to :Category:Epic/Sony Records games

:Nominator's rationale: Rename - for grammar purposes and to match the name of the Epic/Sony Records article. GVnayR (talk) 23:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:Propose merging :Category:Notable street people to :Category:Street people

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. "Notable" goes without saying with all WP categories. To categorize an article in {{cat|Street people}} pre-supposes that they are notable. Were it not so, no article would exist for them. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:12, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• Support Yep, if they're here, they're notable. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:23, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: {{Relisted}} at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 October 2#Category:Igbo fiction writers. — ξ^xplicit 06:25, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

:Propose merging :Category:Igbo fiction writers to :Category:Igbo novelists

:Nominator's rationale: Category:Igbo fiction writers has two subcategories, each of which has a single member -- and it's the same article both times. Category:Igbo novelists has numerous pages. I suggest eliminating the two subcategories of Category:Igbo fiction writers and putting their one article in the merged category, where it fits just fine, but -- forgive me -- I'm a little new to these protocols, I don't quite know how. Artemis-Arethusa (talk) 21:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• Merge – this will make the 2 subcats into subcats of :Category:Igbo novelists, but will not 'eliminate' them. I think 'novelist' and 'fiction writer' are the same thing. Occuli (talk) 15:12, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
• Keep - do not merge - I almost skipped over this one, but it's a good thing I came back and took a look. I've added both a new parent cat and a new sub-category, and I think it should now be apparent why this proposal should not be carried out. Cgingold (talk) 09:38, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Pilots within series to :Category:Television pilots within series

:Nominator's rationale: Rename - for clarity and to match parent category. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 21:25, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Producers' Showcase episodes}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete - single-entry category that has remained so since it was created a year ago. Should additional individual episode articles turn out to be notable then this can be re-created but for now it's not needed. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 21:08, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge all. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:Propose merging :Category:Shipyard associates of The Wire to :Category:The Wire (TV series) characters

:Propose merging :Category:Police of The Wire to :Category:The Wire (TV series) characters

:Propose merging :Category:Drug dealers of The Wire to :Category:The Wire (TV series) characters

:Propose merging :Category:School characters of The Wire to :Category:The Wire (TV series) characters

:Propose merging :Category:Politics of The Wire to :Category:The Wire (TV series) characters

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. Like we did some time ago with the TV series Oz, these characters do not need this fine a division. I only know of two series where we've given this much rope: :Category:Star Trek characters and :Category:Doctor Who characters, both of which have been around for more than four decades, and in multiple incarnations. Note that the "Politics" category refers to politicians.--Mike Selinker (talk) 18:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• Upmerge all - per nom. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 20:06, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge latter to former. Granted, neither are tagged, but these are speedy candidates, so no need to relist for needless bureaucracy. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|1976–77 domestic association football leagues}}

:{{Lc|1976-77 domestic association football leagues}}

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. --Pascal⁶⁶⁶ 17:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• Merge to the en-dash version per most in :Category:Domestic association football league seasons by year and make the dash version into a redirect. (Neither cat is tagged.) Occuli (talk) 19:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge latter to former, same as above. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|1981–82 domestic association football leagues}}

:{{Lc|1981-82 domestic association football leagues}}

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. --Pascal⁶⁶⁶ 17:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• Merge to the en-dash version per most in :Category:Domestic association football league seasons by year and make the dash version into a redirect. (Neither cat is tagged.) Occuli (talk) 19:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge former to latter, same as above with tagging issue. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Wiener Neustadt-Land district}}

:{{Lc|Wiener Neustadt-Land District}}

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. --Pascal⁶⁶⁶ 17:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge latter to former, same as above with tagging issue. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Neunkirchen District}}

:{{Lc|Neunkirchen district}}

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. --Pascal⁶⁶⁶ 17:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge latter to former, same as above with tagging issue. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Populated places in the Municipality of Loška dolina}}

:{{Lc|Populated places in the Municipality of Loška Dolina}}

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. --Pascal⁶⁶⁶ 17:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge latter to former, same as above with tagging issue. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Australian energy templates}}

:{{Lc|Australian Energy templates}}

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. --Pascal⁶⁶⁶ 17:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge former to latter, same as above with tagging issue. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Wikipedia Featured Picture contributors}}

:{{Lc|Wikipedia Featured picture contributors}}

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. --Pascal⁶⁶⁶ 17:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: {{Relisted}} at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 October 2#Royal houses. — ξ^xplicit 06:25, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:British royal houses to :Category:British royal families

:Propose renaming :Category:English royal houses to :Category:English royal families

:Propose renaming :Category:Scottish royal houses to :Category:Scottish royal families

:Propose renaming :Category:Belgian royal houses to :Category:Belgian royal families

:Propose renaming :Category:Bulgarian royal houses to :Category:Bulgarian royal families

:Propose renaming :Category:Hawaiian royal houses to :Category:Hawaiian royal families

:Propose renaming :Category:Houses descended from the Chakri Dynasty to :Category:Royal families descended from the Chakri Dynasty

:Propose renaming :Category:Royal Houses of Caucasian Albania to :Category:Royal families of Caucasian Albania

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. A followup change from this recent rename which switched "noble houses" to "noble families". Per the subcategories of :Category:Royal families, this appears to be primarily a European affectation. I don't know enough about Albania to know whether that one should just be :Category:Albanian royal families or not.--Mike Selinker (talk) 15:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

• comment why then are most subcats of :Category:European royal families still named 'houses'. They are not included in this nom either. If we are going to have both 'houses' and 'familities' in the category names, someone is going to have write up whatever it is that distinguishes one from the other. Hmains (talk) 22:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
• I'm interested in seeing consistency between the "royal families"/"royal houses" categories for now. If this passes, we can talk about the many subcategories of these categories.--Mike Selinker (talk) 12:55, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
• Keep At least for England/Scotland/British. The House of Stuart consisted of the reigning monarchs of that dynasty. Royal family includes non-reigning relatives. :Category:European royal families needs renaming back to :Category:Royal Houses in Europe or something like that. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:33, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. The sole parent is {{Cat|Hylinae}}, of which the contents is already categorized under. Merging would create redundancy. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Scarthyla}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. Single article category with no prospect of expanding. Dawynn (talk) 12:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

:Upmerge this and following noms, subject to the appropriate projects' policy on taxa categories, and considerations of navigability. Rich Farmbrough, 15:29, 12 September 2010 (UTC).

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Itapotihyla}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. Single article category with no prospect of expanding. Dawynn (talk) 12:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Nyctimantis}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. Single article category with no prospect of expanding. Dawynn (talk) 12:43, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Corythomantis}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. Single article category with no prospect of expanding. Dawynn (talk) 12:43, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξ^xplicit 20:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Anotheca}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. Single article category with no prospect of expanding. Dawynn (talk) 12:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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