Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 December 14

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:The result of the discussion was: Keep. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:36, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:LGBT musicians by nationality to :Category:LGBT musicians by country

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. in line with :Category:LGBT comedians by country, :Category:LGBT politicians by country, :Category:LGBT sportspeople by country, :Category:LGBT writers by country. 86.40.97.51 (talk) 23:22, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose – subcat of :Category:Musicians by nationality. It is the 'by country' ones which should be renamed, and their contents should be renamed to use the standard 'fooian' rather than 'from foo'. Occuli (talk) 00:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete, with no prejudice against creating a category called {{cl|Fruits endemic to Angola}} should artices for such a category be created. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:49, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Fruits of Angola}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. not likely to be further populated, poor demarcation (fruit does not originate from within a political boundary - Fruits of Northern Ireland, Fruits of Andorra anyone???) and does not have any other similar categories to keep it company. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 21:49, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

• Delete - Categories like this should be discouraged. (I've noticed a lot of "Trees of (Mexican state)" categories too, ugh.) Flora/fauna of X should be lists, not categories, unless they're endemic-species-by-nation, in which case a cat is appropriate. This isn't. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:04, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
• Maintain - The purpose of this category (and similar) is to sort fruits whose origin is related to the country. Angola has several fruit whose origins are only Angola and many of them found only in the country. The fact that there are no articles in the desired amount, it's not a reason to delete the category. Oskulo (talk) 19:54, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
• Delete or rename to :Category:Fruits endemic to Angola if they are truly endemic species, which would be a defining characteristic. --Neutrality^talk 01:49, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2C. Note that quite a few of these categories and articles probably don't need the ", state" per WP:COMMONNAME/WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, but that's another discussion for another time. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:06, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Albums recorded in Chicago to :Category:Albums recorded in Chicago, Illinois

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match the categorization scheme of subcategories within :Category:Chicago, Illinois and as appropriate for the respective 'albums recorded by city' subcats below. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 20:07, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

:*:Category:Live albums recorded in Chicago to :Category:Live albums recorded in Chicago, Illinois

:*:Category:Albums recorded in Houston to :Category:Albums recorded in Houston, Texas

:*:Category:Albums recorded in Las Vegas to :Category:Albums recorded in the Las Vegas metropolitan area

:*:Category:Live albums recorded in Las Vegas to :Category:Live albums recorded in the Las Vegas metropolitan area

:*:Category:Albums recorded in Los Angeles to :Category:Albums recorded in Los Angeles, California

:*:Category:Live albums recorded in Los Angeles to :Category:Live albums recorded in Los Angeles, California

:*:Category:Albums recorded in San Francisco to :Category:Albums recorded in San Francisco, California

:*:Category:Albums recorded in Seattle to :Category:Albums recorded in Seattle, Washington

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:18, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Internet personalities by country to :Category:Internet personalities by nationality

:Nominator's rationale: This is a category that falls in between tree naming standards. As it currently stands, it fits the tree at :Category:Internet by country, but I believe it should follow the naming pattern at :Category:People by nationality, which it is also a subcat of, and which appears to be the more "prominent" category. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 17:50, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge to :Category:American people of Scottish descent. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:28, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

:Propose merging :Category:American musicians of Scottish descent to :Category:American people of Scottish descent and :Category:American musicians of British descent

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. As per rationale in nomination immediately below. Mayumashu (talk) 17:23, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

• Merge to :Category:American people of Scottish descent only. There is no connection between descent and musicianship. Occuli (talk) 20:24, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
• Note that this will also leave :Category:American people of Scottish descent by occupation empty. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:08, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge to :Category:American people of English descent. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:29, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

:Propose merging :Category:American musicians of English descent to :Category:American people of English descent and :Category:American musicians of British descent (this later one too should eventually be upmerged)

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. Too fine a distinction - WP:OC. :Category:American people of English descent by occupation is no longer a category tree - this is the only member left of it. Mayumashu (talk) 17:03, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

• Merge to :Category:American people of English descent only. There is no connection between descent and musicianship. Occuli (talk) 20:25, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. Listifcation can take place through the normal processes if desired. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:50, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Cruise lines serving les Saintes}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete but listify. This is far too like a performance by performer category. The one cruiseline that I checked had not category for any other place visited. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:50, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:41, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. We don't categorize cruise lines or airlines by the regions they service. Generally we categorize them by where they are headquartered. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 20:47, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: No consensus to delete; rename to . Timrollpickering (talk) 00:20, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

:Propose merging :Category:Airports in les Saintes to :Category:Transport in les Saintes

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. Single member category with little hop of expansion, which will adequately be included in its parent. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:41, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

• Keep and rename to :Category:Airports in Îles des Saintes. Fits the exemption to WP:SMALLCAT as part of an established category tree, :Category:Airports in the Caribbean. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:09, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Unworthy of an exemption. Just add the article Les Saintes Airport to the cat :Category:Airports in the Caribbean to satify completion. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:37, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
• Except :Category:Airports in the Caribbean should be a container category. There are already several other one- or two-article cats that are subcats of AitC - there's no question of "worthiness of an exemption", the exemption already applies as AitC has an established category tree per the WP:SMALLCAT exemption clause. We're not establishing an exemption; we're applying an existing one. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:31, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
• Rename to :Category:Airports in Îles des Saintes per The Bushranger. This is a part of a well established world wide series and elimination should not even be on the table. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:45, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
• I'll also add that this is far from the only airport category that meets the proposed deletion criteria. So if consensus is to delete this one, then we can expect a large number of other categories to be proposed for deletion for the same reason. It is not likely that those would be approved so setting an example here will likely be a very poor example that will be overturned. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:53, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:31, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

:Propose merging :Category:Former Los Angeles Dodgers minor league affiliates to :Category:Los Angeles Dodgers minor league affiliates

:Propose merging :Category:Former Pittsburgh Pirates minor league affiliates to :Category:Pittsburgh Pirates minor league affiliates

:Rationalle: These 2 categories seem to have been missed in the previous discussion, but the same reasoning seems to apply. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:48, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

• Merge -- we do not like "former" categories: much precedent on this. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:06, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:15, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Television episodes featuring gynoids}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. "Features a gynoid" is not a genre. There is a list of fictional gynoids that serves adequately to tie these disparate TV episodes together. 70.226.161.119 (talk) 06:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

• Delete - we should not categorise TV episodes by "featuring", I don't think. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 17:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:52, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

:{{Lc|2003 Le Mans Series season}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. There was no Le Mans Series in 2003, only a single one-off race. Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 03:37, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:32, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Bamako Capital District}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category is currently redundant to {{cat|Bamako}}, since the city and capital district are co-extensive. Bamako Capital District redirects to Bamako. The category contains only {{Cat|Bamako}} and Bamako. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 02:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Upmerge and redirect. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:19, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Maputo City Province}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category is currently redundant to {{cat|Maputo}}, since the city and the province are co-extensive. Maputo City Province redirects to Maputo. The category contains only {{Cat|Maputo}}, Maputo, and the redirect Maputo City Province. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 01:27, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

• Upmerge to {{cat|Maputo}} and soft redirect. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:10, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

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