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== Category:Ghostwriter ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:21, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Ghostwriter to :Category:Ghostwriter (TV series)

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. I suggest disambiguating to match Ghostwriter (TV series). (Could possibly be confused with {{cat|Ghostwriters}}.) We may not want the category at all, given its few contents. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:37, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Support Rename prevents confusion. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:58, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete as a small category that is never going to get any larger. Lafe Smith (talk) 16:20, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment Lafe Smith has been blocked indefinitely from Wikipedia for being a sock puppet. OCNative (talk) 15:24, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Support renaming to prevent confusion and make a category for article related to the TV show. –BuickCenturyDriver 08:24, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
  • :I placed all the GW articles into the suggested category, I hope it's okay. You can delete the old one, it's empty. –BuickCenturyDriver 08:31, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

::* Actually it's not OK. You shouldn't empty categories that are in the middle of a discussion. I've put the two correctly categorized articles back into the original category and taken out the ones that weren't correctly categorized. Lafe Smith (talk) 08:48, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:Stirling ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename all. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:24, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Stirling to :Category:Stirling (council area), and these subcategories in the same way:

:Nominator's rationale: These categories are for the whole of Stirling (council area), not just the city of Stirling. So the name of just "Stirling" is ambiguous and confusing. Vclaw (talk) 18:28, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:Rai - Radiotelevisione Italiana ==

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:The result of the discussion was: relisted at CfD March 23. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:23, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

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:Propose renaming :Category:Rai - Radiotelevisione Italiana to :Category:RAI

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. Main article is RAI. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:44, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Move the main article instead. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:41, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Oppose – there is also Rai, from which it is difficult to support RAI. I would suggest Radiotelevisione Italiana as a suitable name for both article and category. Occuli (talk) 13:53, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Rename; the organization is universally known as RAI, with the full name being much less familiar. Compare at BBC, EMI, MTV.- choster (talk) 16:45, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment: The common usage seems to be Rai, not RAI. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RevelationDirect (talk • contribs)

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== Category:Norges Statsbaner ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename per nominator. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:46, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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:Propose renaming :Category:Norges Statsbaner to :Category:Norwegian State Railways

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. The article is at Norwegian State Railways. Norges Statsbaner redirects there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:39, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

  • support. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:42, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Support for consistency, although "Norges Statsbaner" sounds cooler.RevelationDirect (talk) 08:56, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:Magna Entertainment Corp. ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:MI Developments. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:50, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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:Propose renaming :Category:Magna Entertainment Corp. to :Category:MI Developments

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. The company name has changed to MI Developments. Magna Entertainment Corp. redirects there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:32, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Support Rename to match new company name.RevelationDirect (talk) 08:56, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Can we have a redirect, too? The Magna name is still the most well known, in my experience. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:51, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
  • I would see no problems with keeping a redirect. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:56, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:NSU ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:20, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:NSU to :Category:NSU Motorenwerke

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. I suggest renaming to match article NSU Motorenwerke. NSU is ambiguous. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:25, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:IFA ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:20, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:IFA to :Category:Industrieverband Fahrzeugbau

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. I suggest renaming to match article Industrieverband Fahrzeugbau. IFA is ambiguous. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:24, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:DKW ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:20, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:DKW to :Category:Dampf-Kraft-Wagen

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. I suggest renaming to match article Dampf-Kraft-Wagen. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:19, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:Canon ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:20, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Canon to :Category:Canon (company)

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. I suggest renaming to match Canon (company). Canon is ambiguous. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:14, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:Roads in Jammu&Kasmir ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename per nominator, and per convention of {{cl|Jammu and Kashmir}}. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:27, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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:Propose renaming :Category:Roads in Jammu&Kasmir to :Category:Roads in Jammu and Kashmir

:Nominator's rationale: Correct spelling of Kashmir; also usually "Jammu and Kashmir" not with ampersand Hugo999 (talk) 07:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Speedy this or support. Johnbod (talk) 12:33, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:SGI ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename, revisit if main article moves, create sub-categories if necessary. The main article may not be at the best location but that's best decided on that talk page. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:19, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:SGI to :Category:Silicon Graphics

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. I suggest renaming to match main article Silicon Graphics. SGI is ambiguous. Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:39, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Keep per previous CfD.- choster (talk) 16:48, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Just curious about something in light of the older discussion: has there been any efforts made to move the article about the company to SGI instead of having that page as a disambiguation page? I think there's little doubt that it's an ambiguous abbreviation, so unless it is the primary topic such that SGI is the name of the article or at least redirects to the article rather than a DAB page, it seems to me that this category needs to be at a minimum disambiguated somehow, eg, {{cat|SGI (company)}}. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:29, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Rename to :Category:Silicon Graphics to disambiguate from other meanings of SGI. Editors may wish to split it into two sub-categories (e.g. {{cl|Silicon Graphics, Inc}} and {{cl|Silicon Graphics International}} to seperate out the two difft incarnations, but the current ambiguous categ name is not helpful. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:22, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:Timex ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename to :Category:Timex Group. Timrollpickering (talk) 21:51, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Timex to :Category:Timex Group USA

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. I suggest renaming to match article Timex Group USA. Timex is ambiguous. Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:31, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Oppose. Timex is the name of the brand. Timex Group USA is only the American subsiduary. The ultimate holding company is Timex Group B.V.. An alternative name would be :Category:Timex Group. Cjc13 (talk) 12:38, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
  • The category is not a brand category. As labelled is apparently a "conglomerate company" category, which suggests it could be renamed after the Timex Group B.V. But if you want it to be a brand category, it would need to be {{Cat|Timex (brand)}}, since Timex has a number of different meanings. But note that there is no article for Timex (brand) (nor is there one for Timex Group or Timex Group B.V.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:20, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
  • The other articles relate to the brand, apart perhaps the utility tool which has few links. I am not aware of any other meanings, as it was a word invented for the brand. On the discussion page of Timex Group USA, it points out the need for an article such as Timex Group, as the holding company has separate activities, so I have created an initial page. Cjc13 (talk) 00:38, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
  • {{cat|Timex Group}} looks like a better name in light of your efforts. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:03, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:TI alumni ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Texas Instruments people. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:30, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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:Propose renaming :Category:TI alumni to :Category:Texas Instruments people

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. This category is for people who worked for Texas Instruments. I suggest expanding the ambiguous "TI" and using "people", since this is the standard format for people who are connected to a particular company. "Alumni" is usually only used in categories for educational institutions. Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:27, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:National Cash Register ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:18, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:National Cash Register to :Category:NCR Corporation

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. The main article is at NCR Corporation. National Cash Register redirects there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:23, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:Colt ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename per nominator to :Category:Colt's Manufacturing Company. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:14, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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:Propose renaming :Category:Colt to :Category:Colt's Manufacturing Company

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. I suggest renaming to match the main article Colt's Manufacturing Company. Colt is ambiguous. Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:16, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Rename per nom. jonkerz♠ 17:38, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Rename To match main article and not being ambiguous. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:54, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:State Highways of Tamil Nadu ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:18, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:State Highways of Tamil Nadu to :Category:State highways in Tamil Nadu

:Nominator's rationale: Should be in not of like other subcategories of :Category:State highways in India. Possibly all other subcategories should be renamed too eg :Category:State Highways in Gujarat to :Category:State highways in Gujarat, which would follow the parent category, and require six more subcategory changes Hugo999 (talk) 04:16, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:Magoon ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:02, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Magoon}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. This is categorizing people who have the last name "Magoon". As far as I can tell, the people so categorized are not of the same family, so renaming this to {{cat|Magoon family}} would not be appropriate. This is categorizing unrelated subjects by shared name. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:Arts & Crafts ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename to :Category:Arts & Crafts (record label) without prejudice to a further deletion discussion or renaming if the article is moved. There's a feeling that a deletion decision should consider the whole category tree; for the moment renaming is the preferred outcome. There is disagreement over the destination name and the main article has briefly been moved & reverted during the duration of this discussion; for now the main article name is the best tie-breaker but the category can be changed again to follow the article. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:28, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Arts & Crafts to :Category:Arts & Crafts (record label)

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. I'm not sure if we need this category, as all it contains is the main article and a subcategory, but if kept it should match Arts & Crafts (record label), since it is liable to be confused with :Category:Arts and crafts. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:44, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Rename. Deletion seems like a reasonable option to me but the whole category tree seems to be organized in this way so it should be a separate debate. Pichpich (talk) 03:55, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete. I agree with the reasons for deletion and will open up a separate discussion shortly for the other categories under the category tree. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 19:11, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Rename to Arts & Crafts Productions the actual name of the record label [http://www.cirpa.ca/Page.asp?PageID=5001&EntityID=265&SiteNodeID=54&BL_ExpandID=&BL_ExpandID=]. Is this a renaming or deletion discussion? Argolin (talk) 22:18, 15 March 2011 (UTC) Rename as above. If the article is renamed, to Arts & Crafts Productions or Arts & Crafts Records someone will have to come back an nominate the category for another renaming? Argolin (talk) 22:51, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Both. Users can be in favour of renaming, or deletion, or neither. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:26, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete this category, which is not needed. The company is "Arts & Crafts Production" & the actual label "A&C" so the recordings sub should really be renamed to one of these, even if the article stays where it is, to avoid ambiguity. Johnbod (talk) 12:38, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Question. Shouldn't this discussion be closed, speedily renamed, and added to the current deletion discussion [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_March_16#Canadian_independent_record_labels]? The banner placed on the category states "This category is being considered for renaming" with no mention of deletion: misleading? As creator of the category, I have no objection to it's renaming per User talk:Good Olfactory#Arts_.26 Crafts Productions. Argolin (talk) 00:36, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
  • I have added Template:Cfd to the category as well since deletion is a consideration that is in play. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:06, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Keep. Rename to Arts & Crafts Productions similar to :Category:Beggars Group. To prevent misleading/ambigious categories, the category should be renamed to Arts & Crafts Productions. The label has a roster of artists and releases albums on their sister/sublabel Arts & Crafts Mexico. Unfortunately, there is not a separate article or even a discography article for the Mexico division the label has established. I have added all artists from :Category:Arts & Crafts artists to :Category:Arts & Crafts artists which I believe is misleading. Some articles (in the infobox) state that A&C is mexico only. Argolin (talk) 08:14, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

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== Category:Economic regions of Africa ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete all. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:34, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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::Category:Economic regions of Africa to :Category:Economic regions of Africa

::Category:Economic regions of the Americas to :Category:Economic regions of the Americas

::Category:Economic regions of Asia to :Category:Economic regions of Asia

:Koakhtzvigad (talk) 02:25, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Comments – the difference seems to be an extra space in those on the left, so one can support this. They are tagged as speedies and are all empty; and the nom (also their creator) has been blocked for unconnected transgressions. All in all, one of the more mysterious appearances at cfd. Occuli (talk) 13:07, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment: Thank you Occuli, I've been staring at this for like 2 minutes trying to figure out the difference before I read your comment because my browser evidently ignores the extra space.RevelationDirect (talk) 09:02, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

:::I'm creating categories that will be filled soon (I have a list of articles requiring them), but in the process somehow incorporated an extra space and only noticed after first three. Silly, I know. This edit is just for the sake of accelerating the progress of this administrative change, so I'm abiding by the block of not editing articles. However, if any of you are admins, I would appreciate a review of that block 120.22.136.45 (talk) 09:41, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Comment - I'm dubious about these categories altogether. Can we just delete them as they are & leave it there? Or perhaps the user would like to make the case for them now. Johnbod (talk) 12:41, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

:If its easier to delete, then delete. 120.20.200.248 (talk) 21:27, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

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