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= December 24 =

== Category:1910 disestablishments in Turkey ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:08, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Rename :Category:1910 disestablishments in Turkey to :Category:1910 disestablishments in the Ottoman Empire
  • Nominator's rationale The country at the time is refered to in wikipedia as the Ottoman Empire. At the time the term Turkey was at times used. When it was used it was used as a synonym for the Ottoman Empire. Thus my 1910 Farmer's Atlas shows a place it designates as Turkey stretching to the Adriatic Sea and covering what is today Albania and other such places. Beyond this, both articles involved identify the location involved as being in the Ottoman Empire, one Moda FC, has a statement saying it is not Turkish on the talk page. On the other the page is identified as being part of the wikipedia project for the Ottoman Empire. Disestablishments by year is a place by year category, and the logical place to identifiy is the place at the time. We use Turkey in wikipedia to refer to the modern nation-state of that name. Since that nation-state was not formed until 1923, it is particularly odd to identify places disestablished 13 years earlier with it. Whether these things should be in any Turkey categories is another question, they might well be, but it makes way more sense to do place by year categories in a way that they reflect the places in the years involved.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:43, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Rename; why didn't you put this at WP:CFDS? It's highly important that category names follow article names, and since the article name for this country at this time is Ottoman Empire, the category name should do likewise. Nyttend (talk) 02:17, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Well considering the similar proposal to rename :Category:1911 establishments in Turkey has been opposed, I see no reason to speedy this, since people will just object to trying to speedy it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:24, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Hmm, maybe I was wrong. No one seems to object to it at all. I even notified the Ottoman Empire wikipedia project about it, but no one seems to have taken notice.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

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== Category:Legislatures of non-governmental organizations ==

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:The result of the discussion was: {{relisted}} at 2013 JAN 8 CFD. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Legislatures of non-governmental organizations to :Category:Legislatures of religious organizations I am making this proposal because all the articles placed in this category are related to the legislative bodies of religious groups. --Devin Murphy (talk) 20:54, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

  • Delete or Rename to omit the word legislatures -- I do not think most of the things categorised make laws, so that they are not legislatures. Possibly "General assmeblies of religious bodies". Alternatively, we could purge World Zionist Council, and make it "Governing assemblies of Christian denominations". Peterkingiron (talk) 16:27, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

:* Peterkingiron you make a good point, these articles are not in the strictest scene really about legislatures of religious bodies but rather governing assemblies of varying kinds of religious bodies. So I would be happy to go with "Category:Governing assemblies of religious bodies" or even "Category:Governing assemblies of religious organizations" for the new name of the category. But I think "Governing assemblies of Christian denominations" is to narrow a category as it would require we remove both "World Zionist Congress" and "General Assembly (Unitarian Universalist Association)" from this category and this category is rather sparsely populated at the moment. That being said, I do think it has the potential to be widely populated and of great use. --Devin Murphy (talk) 05:34, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

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== Muppet subcategories ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename per Jc37, with Jedi94's "television series" emendation.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:09, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Muppet books to :Category:The Muppets books

:* Propose renaming :Category:Muppet films to :Category:The Muppets films

:* Propose renaming :Category:Muppet series to :Category:The Muppets series

:* Propose renaming :Category:Muppet specials to :Category:The Muppets specials

:* Propose renaming :Category:Muppets songs to :Category:The Muppets songs

:* Propose renaming :Category:Muppet video games to :Category:The Muppets video games

:Nominator's rationale: All of these subcategories should be parallel in their names to their parent category: :Category:The Muppets. ~ Jedi94 (talk) 20:42, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

:*Comment - What jc37 is suggesting above is ideal. However, I would change :Category:The Muppets television shows to :Category:The Muppets television series. ~ Jedi94 (talk) 20:58, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

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== Buildings of the United States ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:11, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Former library buildings of the United States to :Category:Former library buildings in the United States

:* Propose renaming :Category:Former theatres of the United States to :Category:Former theatres in the United States

:* Propose renaming :Category:Defunct hotels of the United States to :Category:Defunct hotels in the United States

:* Propose renaming :Category:Former buildings and structures of the United States by city to :Category:Former buildings and structures in the United States by city

:* Propose renaming :Category:Former buildings and structures of the United States to :Category:Former buildings and structures in the United States

:* Propose renaming :Category:Former buildings and structures of Amarillo, Texas to :Category:Former buildings and structures in Amarillo, Texas

:* Propose renaming :Category:Former buildings and structures of Boston, Massachusetts to :Category:Former buildings and structures in Boston, Massachusetts

:* Propose renaming :Category:Former buildings and structures of Chicago, Illinois to :Category:Former buildings and structures in Chicago, Illinois

:* Propose renaming :Category:Former buildings and structures of Louisville, Kentucky to :Category:Former buildings and structures in Louisville, Kentucky

:* Propose renaming :Category:Former buildings and structures of Davenport, Iowa to :Category:Former buildings and structures in Davenport, Iowa

:* Propose renaming :Category:Former buildings and structures of New York City to :Category:Former buildings and structures in New York City

:* Propose renaming :Category:Former buildings and structures of Omaha, Nebraska to :Category:Former buildings and structures in Omaha, Nebraska

:* Propose renaming :Category:Former buildings and structures of San Francisco, California to :Category:Former buildings and structures in San Francisco, California

:These are good categories, but they need to be renamed to synchronise with applicable naming conventions. The vast majority of our buildings-by-geography categories use BUILDINGTYPE in PLACENAME; these categories' use of BUILDINGTYPE of PLACENAME. For examples, see :Category:Buildings and structures in San Francisco, California, :Category:Buildings and structures in Amarillo, Texas, :Category:Theatres in the United States, :Category:Libraries in the United States, :Category:Hotels in the United States, and :Category:Buildings and structures in the United States. Nyttend (talk) 15:19, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

:*I think "in" is better than "of", because "of" could be applied to a building that is associated with one place but located in another, e.g. "Buildings of Kettering, Ohio" could be applied to a building that I recently visited that has been moved to another city. That being said, this nomination is done for reasons of consistency; if I'd found a few "in" categories among a large number of "of" categories, I'd be nominating the "ins" for renaming to "ofs". Nyttend (talk) 02:16, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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==== Category:Serbian culture by place ====

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:The result of the discussion was: merge.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:13, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Serbian culture by place to :Category:Serbian culture

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. There used to be more reason for this category, but since I have created the sub-cat by city, it is no longer needed. Cf. :Category:American culture which does not have an equivalent to this extra layer. – Fayenatic London 14:25, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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== Category:People associated with Kraków ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People associated with Kraków to :Category:People from Kraków

:Nominator's rationale: We've eliminated most of the "People associated with (location)" categories. Nearly all of these people are from Kraków, so the categories should be merged.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 06:56, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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== Category:OpenOffice.org ==

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:The result of the discussion was: speedy rename per WP:CFD/S/C#C2D. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:08, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

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:* Propose renaming :Category:OpenOffice.org to :Category:OpenOffice

:Nominator's rationale: After the requested move of OpenOffice.org happened to OpenOffice last summer, then we should also move the category and the cat! mabdul 00:26, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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