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= July 26 =

== Category:Architects of Ponce, Puerto Rico ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. The Bushranger One ping only 01:05, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Architects of Ponce, Puerto Rico to :Category:Ponce Creole architects

:Nominator's rationale: The scope of this category is "architects who designed structures in Ponce, Puerto Rico". Although this characteristic is interesting in the context of local studies, it is not defining for the people being categorized—i.e., it constitues overcategorization of the performer by performance venue variety. I propose converting the category into one for architects who contributed to the Ponce Creole architectural style and relocating it to :Category:Architects by style. (Category creator notified using Template:Cfd-notify) -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:55, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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== Category:Machine shotguns ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename/merge to :Category:Automatic shotguns. Timrollpickering (talk) 16:01, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Machine shotguns}}

:Nominator's rationale: Duplicates the already-extand {{cl|selective-fire shotguns}}. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:06, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Relisting comment: As no consensus was reached during the standard 7-day discussion window, I recommend proceeding with any proposals that affect the main article.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:40, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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== Category:Retail markets by region ==

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:The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. The Bushranger One ping only 01:08, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose (up)merging :Category:Retail markets by region to :Category:Retail markets

:Nominator's rationale: I do not think that it is necessary, at this time, or useful to split :Category:Retail markets by continent. It is not necessary because :Category:Retail markets by country, which contains 44 members, does the job rather well, and it is not useful because there is no particular connection between retail markets and continents (unlike, say, association football and continents, where the structure of the sport is, to a large degree, organized by continent). If this is kept, it should be renamed for clarity to :Category:Retail markets by continent, since 'region' has too many diverse meanings. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:30, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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== Category:Generalist psychology journals ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 01:09, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Generalist psychology journals}}

:Nominator's rationale: not needed any more Tim bates (talk) 16:40, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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== Category:Foreign language psychology journals ==

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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge to :Category:Psychology journals. The Bushranger One ping only 01:10, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Foreign language psychology journals}}

:Nominator's rationale: Psychology journals should be categorized according to field. For languages, we have a separate category tree (e.g., "Russian-language journals"). In addition, English is a foreign languege, too (for me, that is :-), so this is something of a misnomer. Guillaume2303 (talk) 16:26, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

  • Journals not in english. Otherwise I don't know where to put them. And do we want all the journals of the world here? Why not a pointer to wiki.de wiki.japan etc...? Tim bates (talk) 16:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
  • :Tim, this is not the "English WP" or the "American WP". en:WP covers everything, as long as it is notable, regardless of the language it was published in and regardless of the language that the sources are published in. And science is very much an international endeavour, so there are good reasons to include academic journals that are not in English. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 16:40, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Upmerge to :Category:Psychology journals as three out of four are not yet in a subfield-specific category. If a journal (in English or any other language) is notable enough in its field to have an article, it should be categorised by its field. – Fayenatic London 19:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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== Category:Indian Baronets ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (C2A). The Bushranger One ping only 23:40, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Indian Baronets to :Category:Indian baronets

:Nominator's rationale: Common noun, per closed discussion at Talk:Abdy Baronets Crusoe8181 (talk) 10:30, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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== Category:Canadian Baronets ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (C2A). The Bushranger One ping only 23:40, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Canadian Baronets to :Category:Canadian baronets

:Nominator's rationale: Common noun, per closed discussion at Talk:Abdy Baronets Crusoe8181 (talk) 10:30, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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== Category:Canadian Baronets recommended by the British government ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (C2A). The Bushranger One ping only 23:40, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Canadian Baronets recommended by the British government to :Category:Canadian baronets recommended by the British government

:Nominator's rationale: Common noun, per closed discussion at Talk:Abdy Baronets Crusoe8181 (talk) 10:30, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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==== Category:Formula Three Euro Series Champions ====

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename to :Category:Formula 3 Euro Series champions. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:59, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Formula Three Euro Series Champions to :Category:Formula 3 Euro Series drivers

:Nominator's rationale: Not a sufficiently high-level series to merit splitting off its champion drivers from the main category. If kept needs to be renamed to :Category:Formula 3 Euro Series Champions per the main category. The Bushranger One ping only 00:18, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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== Category:Transportation in Parry Sound, Ontario ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Upmerge. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:58, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Transportation in Parry Sound, Ontario}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. There were previously seven articles in this category, however six of them were mis-categorised (in Parry Sound District vis-a-vis Parry Sound itself). Once those were removed there was only one article left, which is already in the appropriate PSD category as well, so there remains no need for this category. The Bushranger One ping only 21:50, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

  • Delete or upmerge per WP:OC#SMALL and nominator. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 00:32, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Just for the record, transportation categories are not limited solely to the precise geographic location of the topic — rather, topics can also be categorized by function as well. For example, even though its physical location is in Seguin instead of Parry Sound proper, Parry Sound Area Municipal Airport's primary transportation purpose is to serve the town — and therefore it's a perfectly legitimate entry in the town-specific category on the basis of its function, regardless of whether it's actually inside the town boundaries or not. Pearson International Airport isn't physically in Toronto, either (it's actually in Mississauga), but it's still categorized as {{cl|Transport in Toronto}} on the basis of serving the city. Put everything back where it was and keep. Bearcat (talk) 18:45, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
  • The trouble is we then have duplication with :Category:Transportation in Parry Sound District, Ontario... - The Bushranger One ping only 20:47, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Why do we have duplication? How does this constitute an exception to perfectly normal category diffusion rules, by which the town-specific category would replace the district-level one rather than both needing to sit on the same articles simultaneously? Bearcat (talk) 14:36, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Because the things in the district category are not in the town? - The Bushranger One ping only 00:49, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Which brings us right back to the point I made in my first comment, I guess. Bearcat (talk) 03:48, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Relisting comment: If the category remains, either due to a consensus to keep or a lack of consensus to delete, it should be renamed under speedy renaming criterion C2.C to :Category:Transport in Parry Sound, Ontario. At present, however, more discussion is needed to reach a clear consensus.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 02:00, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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