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== Category:Irisbus ==
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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge to :Category:Iveco vehicles and :Category:Iveco as needed.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:50, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Irisbus}}
:Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 23:33, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Steam5 (talk) 17:53, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete as small cat.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:32, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep as part of the tree :Category:Bus manufacturers. If deleted its subcat needs to be ensured it's properly categorised. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:44, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- Delete and place :Category:Irisbus vehicles in :Category:Iveco; the other contents already are otherwise categorized. I think that this category does not qualify for the overall-scheme exception of WP:SMALLCAT, since :Category:Bus manufacturers contains over 250 articles but just 20 eponymous categories. In addition, Irisbus is a fully owned subsidiary of Iveco, so it seems natural to upmerge (in effect) to the parent category. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:07, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:Abstraction ==
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:The result of the discussion was: keep. The Bushranger One ping only 01:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Abstraction}}
:Nominator's rationale: Vague. Over-categorization. Pointless Brad7777 (talk) 19:48, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep Not over overcategorization. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 20:03, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment - I am open-minded to this deletion proposal. However, perhaps it can be saved if we have a clear definition. Greg Bard (talk) 21:29, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep Please keep. Abstraction is a useful process; where else, for example, might the articles in this category be unified with :Category:Category theory, which deals with abstractions? The same question for lifting (mathematics) --Ancheta Wis (talk | contribs) 00:35, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment If that is what is wanted, then renaming this to :Category:Abstraction (mathematics) would be more defining and would be backed up by the article Abstraction (mathematics). I'm not sure whether these articles need to be grouped with articles such as the biologically orientated ones which deal with abstraction as a thought process, or the articles about abstract art, as I think the article abstraction alone could cover this. Brad7777 (talk) 10:30, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose renaming too, as the main article of the category is Abstraction. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 06:28, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
- Question What is this categories purpose? Brad7777 (talk) 08:18, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:Interdisciplinary fields ==
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:The result of the discussion was: delete for now. The Bushranger One ping only 01:06, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Interdisciplinary fields}}
:Nominator's rationale: Not notable. Over-categorization. Brad7777 (talk) 19:41, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment I see no use for this. I would say basically every field would fit this tag except the most elementary of fields. Brad7777 (talk) 22:02, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Keep Not over overcategorization.Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 19:43, 25 June 2012 (UTC)- Comment. The category name is problematic given that the main article is Interdisciplinarity which states Interdisciplinarity involves the combining of two or more academic disciplines into one activity, so are these activities separately written about and do we have articles on those? Right now it appears that what is included are the disciplines that are combined. Can't all disciplines be combined rendering the current contents invalid since the criteria is no longer defining as everything should be a member? Vegaswikian (talk) 22:37, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment I believe so. Brad7777 (talk) 13:41, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment If NN, it is surprising that it should be so well populated. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:17, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment Almost every discipline could go into this category, that's why it is so well populated. Brad7777 (talk) 18:33, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and the discussion that follows. Allow recreation at a later date if only those fields which are combined have an article and are named uniquely. Recreation would also require a category name and introduction that makes the intent of the category clear. In the meantime, a list should/could be created to address these combinations which could negate the need for a category. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:52, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- Delete how do either anthropology or history belong in this category? This is throwing together a lot of fields of study in many cases for reasons that are not clear.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:02, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Delete, but allow recreation per Vegaswikian. This could be a very valid category if appropriately populated. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 08:31, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:Dangerous Road for Pedestrians ==
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:The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 17:47, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Dangerous Road for Pedestrians}}
:Nominator's rationale: Delete hopelessly subjective and unlikely to be defining since roads are not designed to be safe for pedestrians. Pichpich (talk) 17:46, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Would all the interstates count? Delete. Benkenobi18 (talk) 18:17, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete, all roads are dangerous for pedestrians with the degree of danger varying by location. If kept, rename to :Category:Dangerous roads for pedestrians. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:46, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete per Vegaswikian. Steam5 (talk) 17:52, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete there is no real clear criteria for inclusion. For one thing, is it meant to be for roads where pedestrians often exist, or should we include every road that a pedestrian trying to cross is in major risk?John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:40, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete -- This is a hopelessly POV category. There can be no clear criterion as to which roads should (and should not) appear. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:19, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete for now - with respect, before passing such judgements it would be wise to refer back to the WP projects which might have an informed opinion. E.g. the Euro NCAP equivalents for roads might enable non-subjectivity. However, in this instance, when you look at the two roads in this category you will see there is no reference to pedestrian safety within the articles. Ephebi (talk) 18:30, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
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==== Category:Luther Rice Seminary alumni ====
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. The Bushranger One ping only 17:47, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Luther Rice Seminary alumni to :Category:Luther Rice University alumni
:Nominator's rationale: Merge we have a single main article under the title Luther Rice University (to which Luther Rice Seminary redirects) so I propose keeping all alumni in a single category. Pichpich (talk) 17:34, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Merge Brad7777 (talk) 17:51, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Merge as best I can tell this is all one unified organization. The seminary is not a distinct unit which we normally require to sub-categorize alumni seperately.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:41, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Merge -- Whatever the relationship of the two, I do not think we need both. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:25, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:Albums produced by Hangmen 3 ==
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:The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 17:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Albums produced by Hangmen 3}}
:Nominator's rationale: Delete Per precedent, we usually require multiple solo production credits to create such a category. In this case, Hangmen 3 (aka Benzino) only has partial producer credits on his own albums. Pichpich (talk) 17:13, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:Chemistry prefixes and suffixes ==
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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge to :Category:Chemical nomenclature. The Bushranger One ping only 01:07, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Chemistry prefixes and suffixes to :Category:Affixes used in Chemistry
:Nominator's rationale: Improvement to the grammar Brad7777 (talk) 14:54, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment I think :Category:Chemistry affixes would be better. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 15:24, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment this terminology ("affix") is unknown [https://encrypted.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&prmdo=1&biw=1120&bih=735&q=%2B%28chemistry+OR+chemical+OR+organic%29+%2Baffix&oq=%2B%28chemistry+OR+chemical+OR+organic%29+%2Baffix&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...9503.20444.0.20737.25.25.0.0.0.5.122.2305.20j5.25.0...0.0.LSN6vGYlGWY] , while "prefix" and "suffix" are used [https://encrypted.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&prmdo=1&biw=1120&bih=735&q=%2B%28chemistry+OR+chemical+OR+organic%29+%2B%28prefix+OR+suffix%29&oq=%2B%28chemistry+OR+chemical+OR+organic%29+%2B%28prefix+OR+suffix%29&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...23030.25494.0.25707.12.12.0.0.0.0.93.1057.12.12.0...0.0.QdgCDkblcrU] -- 70.49.127.65 (talk) 03:55, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment Agree with 70.49.127.65. Prefixes and suffixes are more clear for users, but these terms remain in the sub-cats anyhow. Sub-cat Chemistry infixes had to be inserted.--Wickey-nl (talk) 12:30, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment what about :Category:Prefixes and suffixes used in Chemistry? I do not quite understand what you have said about chemistry infixes; these also exist but i am not sure if there are articles on them. The term affix includes infixes (aswell as prefixes and suffixes;) but i can see why we wouldn't use the term "affix" if it isn't a familiar word in the relevant subject community. Brad7777 (talk) 13:38, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment I have just noticed that this category contains 1 article and 2 subcats. (:Category:Chemistry prefixes and :Category:Chemistry suffixes.) Because of this I have changed my mind and now think that :Category:Chemistry prefixes and suffixes should be deleted. And perhaps its sub-cats could do with a grammatical renaming instead. Brad7777 (talk) 13:52, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- I agree, but the solution is Upmerge. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:21, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Upmerge per Peterkingiron Brad7777 (talk) 09:40, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
- Upmerge to :Category:Chemical nomenclature. I think this is what Peterkingiron meant.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:26, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:Teachable units for language instruction ==
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:The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 17:49, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Teachable units for language instruction}}
:Nominator's rationale: Only contains 4 articles. Seems to have been unused since 2009, and I'm not very clear as to if it will grow as there is no eponymous article. Brad7777 (talk) 14:30, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:Bird terminology ==
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:The result of the discussion was: rename. The Bushranger One ping only 17:50, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Bird terminology to :Category:Ornithological terminology
:Nominator's rationale: Improvement to the grammar. Brad7777 (talk) 14:24, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment Is the new name supposed to imply terms from ornithology (in which case, it should be a subcategory called :Category:Ornithology terminology), or is it supposed to retain the broad scope of the current name? 70.49.127.65 (talk) 05:26, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
:Comment Retain the broad scope. My problem is only one of grammar. Brad7777 (talk) 09:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:Ecology terminology ==
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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:13, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Ecology terminology to :Category:Ecological terminology
:Nominator's rationale: Improvement to the grammar Brad7777 (talk) 14:22, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep The category is for terminology used in ecology, not for terminology which is ecological.- choster (talk) 21:01, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Question What's the difference? Brad7777 (talk) 23:26, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose per Choster. Terminology used in ecology, the field, is a much more limited scope, than terminology used in relation to anything ecological. 70.49.127.65 (talk) 05:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment Surely, anything related to something ecological, like for example; something related to an ecosystem - would be studied in ecology, relative to the ecosystem. Would this not then give that term related to the ecosystem an ecological flavour? Because I thought "ecological term" referred to a term from an ecological perspective. Brad7777 (talk) 08:50, 28 June 2012 (UTC) And any term from an ecological perspective is worthy to be used in ecology. Brad7777 (talk) 08:53, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Reply no, ecology is a science, with specific terminology. However, ecological activism is not a science, and has its own terminology. There are other subjects related to ecology which can be covered by "ecological" terminology, but which is not covered by "ecology" terminology. I'd rather think we should not expand the scope of this category to do that. A supercategory under your proposed name can be used for such a thing, without needing to expand the current scope. 70.49.127.65 (talk) 10:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Reply Ecology's own terminology is of an ecological nature. I get what you mean about other disciplines having the term "ecological" in them, but take Ecological economics; the terminology it uses is a mixture of economical terms and ecological terms. More specifically, the ecological terms are given an additional economic definition, also making them economical terms. Making :Category:Ecological terminology (or "ecological terms"?) a parent category of :Category:Ecology terminology is just creating depth for no reason. Brad7777 (talk) 19:25, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:Biology prefixes and suffixes ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Image:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 July 19. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:18, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Biology prefixes and suffixes to :Category:Affixes used in Biology
:Nominator's rationale: Improvement of grammar. Brad7777 (talk) 14:12, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment After having a look at the similar :Category:Chemistry prefixes and suffixes, I would suggest the same for this too. Brad7777 (talk) 14:17, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment I think :Category:Biology affixes and :Category:Chemistry affixes would be better. (BTW the latter category isn't tagged.) Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 14:34, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- : Thank you for reminding me Brad7777 (talk) 14:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment this terminology ("affix") appears to be unused [https://encrypted.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&prmdo=1&biw=1120&bih=735&q=%2B%28biological+OR+biology%29+%2Baffix&oq=%2B%28biological+OR+biology%29+%2Baffix&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...4696.5752.0.6052.5.5.0.0.0.0.89.436.5.5.0...0.0.AzYMnvRCO4M] while "suffix" and "prefix" are used [https://encrypted.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&prmdo=1&biw=1120&bih=735&q=%2B%28biological+OR+biology%29+%2B%28prefix+OR+suffix%29&oq=%2B%28biological+OR+biology%29+%2B%28prefix+OR+suffix%29&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...232043.234942.0.235106.21.21.0.0.0.1.95.1844.21.21.0...0.0.DgjxeI_vjMY] -- 70.49.127.65 (talk) 04:00, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment I see, then I guess :Category:Prefixes and suffixes used in Biology could be used instead. Brad7777 (talk) 10:36, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Upmerge to :Category:Biology terminology. I do not see the point in a specialized category with only five entries.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:28, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- Question Would it be better placed in :Category:Biological nomenclature ? Brad7777 (talk) 12:15, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:Biology terminology ==
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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:14, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Biology terminology to :Category:Biological terminology
:Nominator's rationale: An improvement to the grammar. Brad7777 (talk) 13:21, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose the first is terminology used in biology, the field, the second is terminology used in relation with anything biological. 70.49.127.65 (talk) 05:22, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment Which I believe are exactly the same thing. Could you give an example so I can understand why you say they are different? Brad7777 (talk) 08:40, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Reply a category for the field of biology, should not include terms for the marketing of probiotics, terms from alternative medicine, or industrial products from biological sources, such a biofuels and bioplastics. Or marketing terms for shampoos, which biorevive your hair. -- 70.49.127.65 (talk) 10:26, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Reply They would also not be included "biological terminology". You have named marketing terms, medicinal terms and biochemicals. Brad7777 (talk) 11:07, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Google Hits [https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?hl=en&tab=ww#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22biology+terminology%22&oq=%22biology+terminology%22&gs_l=hp.3..0l3j0i30.5332.29806.0.30641.30.25.1.3.4.1.1293.8062.0j16j2j1j0j2j3j1.25.0...0.0.eKvdRxb_yKc&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=1deb3a27a4d9b1ab&biw=1024&bih=497 "Biology terminology"], [https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?hl=en&tab=ww#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22biology+terminology%22&oq=%22biology+terminology%22&gs_l=hp.3..0l3j0i30.5332.29806.0.30641.30.25.1.3.4.1.1293.8062.0j16j2j1j0j2j3j1.25.0...0.0.eKvdRxb_yKc&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=1deb3a27a4d9b1ab&biw=1024&bih=497 Biology terms], [https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?hl=en&tab=ww#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22biology+terminology%22&oq=%22biology+terminology%22&gs_l=hp.3..0l3j0i30.5332.29806.0.30641.30.25.1.3.4.1.1293.8062.0j16j2j1j0j2j3j1.25.0...0.0.eKvdRxb_yKc&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=1deb3a27a4d9b1ab&biw=1024&bih=497 Biological terminology] and [https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?hl=en&tab=ww#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22biological+terms%22&oq=%22biological+terms%22&gs_l=hp.3..0l4.31813.32699.10.33217.3.3.0.0.0.0.237.490.0j2j1.3.0...0.0.29b-t3Oqhp4&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=1deb3a27a4d9b1ab&biw=1024&bih=497 "Biological terms"]. "Biological terms" has significantly more hits. I propose a rename to :Category:Biological terms. Brad7777 (talk) 11:16, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep this is not a question of "common name" this is a question of the right term to describe what we have. What makes this a category is that it is terms used in the field known as biology. It is not terms that are in some way "biological". The current name describes what the terms are, terms used in the science, biology. I am not sure we can justify the goal term as a category name. The current name works at least, and I say, if it is not broke, don't fix it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:31, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- Comment The current name does not have an eponymous article called Biology terminology so there is no reason to name it as if it is a topic category. It is a set category, containing as you have said, terms used in the science, biology. These terms are biological terms, (they are defined by the logic of Biology.) I agree the terms are not "alive" but they are definitely biological terms. As it is a set category, by the naming conventions of WP:CAT the category name should be plural for example :Category:Biological terms. It is also the more common phrase according to google. Brad7777 (talk) 17:00, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:Compensation ==
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:The result of the discussion was: rename. The Bushranger One ping only 17:51, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Compensation to :Category:Compensation methods
:Nominator's rationale: Compensation has too many other meanings. This category is about Compensation methods so it should be named as such. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 07:58, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Rename although I would prefer :Category:Compensation models; but a redirect from that would be ok.Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:30, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:108 holy temples of Vishnu ==
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:The result of the discussion was: rename. The Bushranger One ping only 17:52, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:108 holy temples of Vishnu to :Category:Divya Desams
:Nominator's rationale: The 108 holy temples of Vishnu are known, collectively, as the Divya Desams. (Category creator not notified: inactive for 2 years) -- Black Falcon (talk) 07:39, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Note: If there is consensus to rename the category, I request that the task be left to me, so that I might be able to correct the sort keys for the articles while renaming the category (to avoid double-editing each article), as well as to determine why there are 111 articles in the category when there should be only 109: the head article and the 108 temples. -- Black Falcon (talk) 07:39, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Rename per nom.
Ocean of milk is one of the 2 extras(Ocean of milk is an extra-terrestrial one. The situation is complicated by many of the 108 listed links being redirects, at least 3 being to dab pages.) Oculi (talk) 08:15, 25 June 2012 (UTC) - Comment Heheheh, good luck with that Black Falcon. Your mission if you choose to accept it is... Decide on a renaming nomenclature that is consistant, rename all the articles and see what you can do with the DABs. Been here, done that, not fun. :) Benkenobi18 (talk) 18:23, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose -- This is the English WP, not the Hindi or Sanskrit one, so that category names should be in English. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Rename the article is Divya Desams so we should follow that lead in the category name.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Support to match the parent article. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:07, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
- Rename to match the parent article. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 12:31, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Transportation in Canada ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Rename all. Timrollpickering (talk) 20:36, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
{{collapse top|Transportation --> Transport}}
- :Category:Transportation in Timiskaming District to :Category:Transport in Timiskaming District
- :Category:Transportation in Parry Sound District, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Parry Sound District, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Wellington County, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Wellington County, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Waterloo Region, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Waterloo Region, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Thunder Bay District to :Category:Transport in Thunder Bay District
- :Category:Transportation in Sudbury District to :Category:Transport in Sudbury District
- :Category:Transportation in Simcoe County to :Category:Transport in Simcoe County
- :Category:Transportation in Renfrew County to :Category:Transport in Renfrew County
- :Category:Transportation in Rainy River District to :Category:Transport in Rainy River District
- :Category:Transportation in Perth County, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Perth County, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Oxford County, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Oxford County, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Norfolk County, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Norfolk County, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Nipissing District to :Category:Transport in Nipissing District
- :Category:Transportation in Niagara Region, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Niagara Region, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Muskoka District to :Category:Transport in Muskoka District
- :Category:Transportation in Middlesex County, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Middlesex County, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Manitoulin District to :Category:Transport in Manitoulin District
- :Category:Transportation in Leeds and Grenville United Counties to :Category:Transport in Leeds and Grenville United Counties
- :Category:Transportation in Lambton County to :Category:Transport in Lambton County
- :Category:Transportation in Kenora District to :Category:Transport in Kenora District
- :Category:Transportation in Huron County, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Huron County, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Frontenac County to :Category:Transport in Frontenac County
- :Category:Transportation in Essex County, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Essex County, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Elgin County to :Category:Transport in Elgin County
- :Category:Transportation in Cochrane District to :Category:Transport in Cochrane District
- :Category:Transportation in Chatham-Kent to :Category:Transport in Chatham-Kent
- :Category:Transportation in Bruce County to :Category:Transport in Bruce County
- :Category:Transportation in Algoma District to :Category:Transport in Algoma District
- :Category:Transportation in Ontario by census division to :Category:Transport in Ontario by census division
- :Category:Transportation in Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Victoria County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Victoria County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Shelburne County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Shelburne County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Richmond County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Richmond County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in the Region of Queens Municipality to :Category:Transport in the Region of Queens Municipality
- :Category:Transportation in Pictou County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Pictou County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Lunenburg County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Lunenburg County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Kings County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Kings County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Inverness County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Inverness County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Hants County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Hants County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Guysborough County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Guysborough County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Digby County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Digby County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Cumberland County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Cumberland County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Colchester County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Colchester County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Antigonish County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Antigonish County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Annapolis County, Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Annapolis County, Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Nova Scotia by county to :Category:Transport in Nova Scotia by county
- :Category:Transportation in York County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in York County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Westmorland County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Westmorland County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Victoria County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Victoria County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Sunbury County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Sunbury County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Saint John County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Saint John County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Restigouche County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Restigouche County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Queens County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Queens County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Northumberland County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Northumberland County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Madawaska County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Madawaska County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Kings County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Kings County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Kent County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Kent County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Gloucester County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Gloucester County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Charlotte County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Charlotte County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Carleton County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Carleton County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Albert County, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Albert County, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in New Brunswick by county to :Category:Transport in New Brunswick by county
- :Category:Transportation in Aurora, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Aurora, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in York Region to :Category:Transport in York Region
- :Category:Transportation in Peel Region to :Category:Transport in Peel Region
- :Category:Transportation in Halton Region to :Category:Transport in Halton Region
- :Category:Transportation in Durham Region to :Category:Transport in Durham Region
- :Category:Transportation in the Greater Toronto Area to :Category:Transport in the Greater Toronto Area
- :Category:Transportation in Queens County, Prince Edward Island to :Category:Transport in Queens County, Prince Edward Island
- :Category:Transportation in Prince County, Prince Edward Island to :Category:Transport in Prince County, Prince Edward Island
- :Category:Transportation in Kings County, Prince Edward Island to :Category:Transport in Kings County, Prince Edward Island
- :Category:Transportation in Prince Edward Island by county to :Category:Transport in Prince Edward Island by county
- :Category:Transportation in Saguenay–Lac-Saint-Jean to :Category:Transport in Saguenay–Lac-Saint-Jean
- :Category:Transportation in Outaouais to :Category:Transport in Outaouais
- :Category:Transportation in Nord-du-Québec to :Category:Transport in Nord-du-Québec
- :Category:Transportation in Montérégie to :Category:Transport in Montérégie
- :Category:Transportation in Mauricie to :Category:Transport in Mauricie
- :Category:Transportation in Laurentides to :Category:Transport in Laurentides
- :Category:Transportation in Lanaudière to :Category:Transport in Lanaudière
- :Category:Transportation in Gaspésie–Îles-de-la-Madeleine to :Category:Transport in Gaspésie–Îles-de-la-Madeleine
- :Category:Transportation in Estrie to :Category:Transport in Estrie
- :Category:Transportation in Côte-Nord to :Category:Transport in Côte-Nord
- :Category:Transportation in Chaudière-Appalaches to :Category:Transport in Chaudière-Appalaches
- :Category:Transportation in Centre-du-Québec to :Category:Transport in Centre-du-Québec
- :Category:Transportation in Capitale-Nationale to :Category:Transport in Capitale-Nationale
- :Category:Transportation in Bas-Saint-Laurent to :Category:Transport in Bas-Saint-Laurent
- :Category:Transportation in Abitibi-Témiscamingue to :Category:Transport in Abitibi-Témiscamingue
- :Category:Transportation in Quebec by region to :Category:Transport in Quebec by region
- :Category:Transportation in Saskatoon to :Category:Transport in Saskatoon
- :Category:Transportation in Regina, Saskatchewan to :Category:Transport in Regina, Saskatchewan
- :Category:Transportation in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan to :Category:Transport in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan
- :Category:Transportation in Moose Jaw to :Category:Transport in Moose Jaw
- :Category:Transportation in Saskatchewan by city to :Category:Transport in Saskatchewan by city
- :Category:Transportation in Victoriaville to :Category:Transport in Victoriaville
- :Category:Transportation in Trois-Rivières to :Category:Transport in Trois-Rivières
- :Category:Transportation in Sherbrooke to :Category:Transport in Sherbrooke
- :Category:Transportation in Shawinigan to :Category:Transport in Shawinigan
- :Category:Transportation in Saint-Lambert, Quebec to :Category:Transport in Saint-Lambert, Quebec
- :Category:Transportation in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu to :Category:Transport in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu
- :Category:Transportation in Saint-Hyacinthe, Quebec to :Category:Transport in Saint-Hyacinthe, Quebec
- :Category:Transportation in Saguenay, Quebec to :Category:Transport in Saguenay, Quebec
- :Category:Transportation in Quebec City to :Category:Transport in Quebec City
- :Category:Transportation in Pointe-Claire to :Category:Transport in Pointe-Claire
- :Category:Transportation in Montreal to :Category:Transport in Montreal
- :Category:Transportation in Longueuil to :Category:Transport in Longueuil
- :Category:Transportation in Lévis, Quebec to :Category:Transport in Lévis, Quebec
- :Category:Transportation in Laval, Quebec to :Category:Transport in Laval, Quebec
- :Category:Transportation in Gatineau to :Category:Transport in Gatineau
- :Category:Transportation in Drummondville to :Category:Transport in Drummondville
- :Category:Transportation in Dorval to :Category:Transport in Dorval
- :Category:Transportation in Brossard to :Category:Transport in Brossard
- :Category:Transportation in Quebec by city to :Category:Transport in Quebec by city
- :Category:Transportation in Windsor, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Windsor, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Welland to :Category:Transport in Welland
- :Category:Transportation in Vaughan to :Category:Transport in Vaughan
- :Category:Transportation in Toronto to :Category:Transport in Toronto
- :Category:Transportation in Timmins to :Category:Transport in Timmins
- :Category:Transportation in Thunder Bay to :Category:Transport in Thunder Bay
- :Category:Transportation in St. Catharines to :Category:Transport in St. Catharines
- :Category:Transportation in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Sarnia to :Category:Transport in Sarnia
- :Category:Transportation in Richmond Hill, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Richmond Hill, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Peterborough, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Peterborough, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Ottawa to :Category:Transport in Ottawa
- :Category:Transportation in Orillia to :Category:Transport in Orillia
- :Category:Transportation in North Bay, Ontario to :Category:Transport in North Bay, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Niagara Falls, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Niagara Falls, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Mississauga to :Category:Transport in Mississauga
- :Category:Transportation in Markham, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Markham, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in London, Ontario to :Category:Transport in London, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Kingston, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Kingston, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Kenora to :Category:Transport in Kenora
- :Category:Transportation in Hamilton, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Hamilton, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Guelph to :Category:Transport in Guelph
- :Category:Transportation in Greater Sudbury to :Category:Transport in Greater Sudbury
- :Category:Transportation in Elliot Lake to :Category:Transport in Elliot Lake
- :Category:Transportation in Cornwall, Ontario to :Category:Transport in Cornwall, Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Brampton to :Category:Transport in Brampton
- :Category:Transportation in Barrie to :Category:Transport in Barrie
- :Category:Transportation in Ontario by city to :Category:Transport in Ontario by city
- :Category:Transportation in Saint John, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Saint John, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Miramichi, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Miramichi, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Riverview, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Riverview, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Moncton to :Category:Transport in Moncton
- :Category:Transportation in Dieppe, New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in Dieppe, New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Greater Moncton to :Category:Transport in Greater Moncton
- :Category:Transportation in Fredericton to :Category:Transport in Fredericton
- :Category:Transportation in Edmundston to :Category:Transport in Edmundston
- :Category:Transportation in New Brunswick by city to :Category:Transport in New Brunswick by city
- :Category:Transportation in Winnipeg to :Category:Transport in Winnipeg
- :Category:Transportation in Brandon, Manitoba to :Category:Transport in Brandon, Manitoba
- :Category:Transportation in Manitoba by city to :Category:Transport in Manitoba by city
- :Category:Transportation in Iqaluit to :Category:Transport in Iqaluit
- :Category:Transportation in Charlottetown to :Category:Transport in Charlottetown
- :Category:Transportation in Richmond, British Columbia to :Category:Transport in Richmond, British Columbia
- :Category:Transportation in Coquitlam to :Category:Transport in Coquitlam
- :Category:Transportation in Burnaby to :Category:Transport in Burnaby
- :Category:Transportation in Greater Vancouver to :Category:Transport in Greater Vancouver
- :Category:Transportation in Prince George, British Columbia to :Category:Transport in Prince George, British Columbia
- :Category:Transportation in Kelowna to :Category:Transport in Kelowna
- :Category:Transportation in Kamloops to :Category:Transport in Kamloops
- :Category:Transportation in British Columbia by city to :Category:Transport in British Columbia by city
- :Category:Transportation in St. Albert, Alberta to :Category:Transport in St. Albert, Alberta
- :Category:Transportation in Lethbridge to :Category:Transport in Lethbridge
- :Category:Transportation in Edmonton to :Category:Transport in Edmonton
- :Category:Transportation in Calgary to :Category:Transport in Calgary
- :Category:Transportation in Alberta by city to :Category:Transport in Alberta by city
- :Category:Transportation in Whitehorse, Yukon to :Category:Transport in Whitehorse, Yukon
- :Category:Transportation in Yukon to :Category:Transport in Yukon
- :Category:Transportation in Saskatchewan to :Category:Transport in Saskatchewan
- :Category:Transportation in Quebec to :Category:Transport in Quebec
- :Category:Transportation in Prince Edward Island to :Category:Transport in Prince Edward Island
- :Category:Transportation in Ontario to :Category:Transport in Ontario
- :Category:Transportation in Nunavut to :Category:Transport in Nunavut
- :Category:Transportation in the Cape Breton Regional Municipality to :Category:Transport in the Cape Breton Regional Municipality
- :Category:Transportation in the Halifax Regional Municipality to :Category:Transport in the Halifax Regional Municipality
- :Category:Transportation in Nova Scotia to :Category:Transport in Nova Scotia
- :Category:Transportation in Yellowknife to :Category:Transport in Yellowknife
- :Category:Transportation in the Northwest Territories to :Category:Transport in the Northwest Territories
- :Category:Transportation in St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador to :Category:Transport in St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador
- :Category:Transportation in Newfoundland and Labrador to :Category:Transport in Newfoundland and Labrador
- :Category:Transportation in New Brunswick to :Category:Transport in New Brunswick
- :Category:Transportation in Manitoba to :Category:Transport in Manitoba
- :Category:Transportation on Vancouver Island to :Category:Transport on Vancouver Island
- :Category:Transportation in Victoria, British Columbia to :Category:Transport in Victoria, British Columbia
- :Category:Transportation in the Capital Regional District to :Category:Transport in the Capital Regional District
- :Category:Transportation in British Columbia to :Category:Transport in British Columbia
- :Category:Transportation in Alberta to :Category:Transport in Alberta
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:Nominator's rationale: The established naming convention on the top level of the category tree is to use "Transport" instead of "Transportation". See: :Category:Transport in Canada, :Category:Transport in Canada by province or territory and :Category:Transport in Canada by city. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 06:55, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Rename all per nom. The head article and category for this category tree are Transport in Canada and :Category:Transport in Canada, respectively. There has been at least one discussion aimed at changing the head article to Transportation in Canada and the proposal failed to gain consensus. Except the nominated location-based categories, all other members of the tree already use 'transport' – e.g., :Category:Rail transport in Canada, :Category:Transport disasters in Canada. -- Black Falcon (talk) 07:26, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose, and reverse speedy rename of head category. This was discussed last year, and closed as don't rename, it never should have gone through speedy rename. My hope, was that consensus was to judge each individually, as the local agency in each jurisdiction uses different terminology. All of these categories, and their parent categories, are way too many to be discussed in a mass nomination. 117Avenue (talk) 04:13, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
:*In the link you have given, the closure is: "rename all as nominated". Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 08:20, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
::* :Category:Transport in Canada resulted from a full cfd. Oculi (talk) 16:01, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
:::*Yes, that's the one I was thinking of, thanks. 117Avenue (talk) 04:08, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Rename all. Canada is an on-the-fence country on this score. Transportation and transport seem to be used about equally. In that case, we should default to the majority of the world's usage, which is transport.--Mike Selinker (talk) 06:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Rename all to match :Category:Transport in Canada and :Transport in Canada. Oculi (talk) 16:01, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Rename all as Transport, not transportation, is the standard established by the top of the tree and per standard usage in a 'neutral' country, as per Mike and Oculi. - The Bushranger posting as Aerobird from a public computer Talk 20:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment I would say the standard established by the tree is the one used by most of the tree, in this case, it is "transportation". And I don't see what a "neutral" country has to do with Canada, since this deals solely with Canadian categories. The US is a "neutral" (ie. non-Canadian) country, it uses "transportation". (I have no opinion on which side is better, but I think the opinions provided should be based on Canadian English when determining which way these categories are named) 70.49.127.65 (talk) 21:23, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- It's "neutral" as in "uses 'transport' and 'transportation' roughly equally in Canadian English" based on the comments above. And just because the majority of the tree uses a certain standard doesn't mean it's the right standard. - The Bushranger One ping only 16:26, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Category:City airports ==
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:The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 17:52, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{Lc|City airports}}
:Nominator's rationale: Delete. Inclusion criteria is too subjective. What exactly determines 'close proximity'? Why restrict the target to only business travelers? Vegaswikian (talk) 05:31, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 08:00, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete vague marketting term. -- 70.49.127.65 (talk) 04:03, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Steam5 (talk) 17:50, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete the fact that Detroit City Airport does not qualify because despite being in the city it is not in or in close proximity to Downtown Detroit (well, not by my definitions of close proximity, others may have different views) tells me this category is far too narrowly defined.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:47, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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