Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 September 18

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. The alternate rename is reasonable, but the original nomination makes it clearer that the medals are those from the Olympics.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:56, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Athletes stripped of Olympic medals to :Category:Competitors stripped of Olympic medals

:Nominator's rationale: Most of these folks aren't "athletes" in the sense they did not compete in Athletics (sport). For AMENG this is fine, but for some varieties of English, having a cross-country skier in this category is rather odd. Courcelles 21:14, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• Comment the parent category is :Category:Olympic competitors, and nearly its other 1st-level subcats use "competitors". However, the other parent is :Category:Olympic medalists. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:25, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• Rename to :Category:Olympic competitors stripped of medals. Buck Winston (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Rename to :Category:Olympic competitors stripped of medals as clearer and more succint. Mangoe (talk) 16:10, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment are they stripped of non-Olympic medals or are they stripped of Olympic medals? With that formulation, then it should be :Category:Olympic competitors stripped of Olympic medals -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 02:58, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
• Semantics. What a waste of time. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 15:47, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
• Rename per nom -- This is clear. Being stipped of a medal is a rare event. Only an Olympic competitor can be stripped of an Olympic medal. The basis of the nom is the differnet usage of athlete between US and UK, one limiting it to track and field, but I doubt there are enough cases for much splitting by sport to be needed. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:56, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. The issue is that the medals are olympic, thus the olympic should be modifying that term.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:35, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge to all three parents: :Category:Occupy movement, :Category:Protests in Armenia, and :Category:Political movements in Armenia. -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 04:57, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Occupy movement in Armenia to :Category:

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge, only one article. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:13, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• Upmerge to all 3 parents: :Category:Occupy movement, :Category:Protests in Armenia, and :Category:Political movements in Armenia. Fails WP:SMALLCAT. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:08, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• Upmerge per BHG and others. Unlikely to be much better populated. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:17, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:20, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Making Fiends}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Only four article entries and the navbox, which itself fails WP:NENAN. I see no growth of the category, particularly since a Making Fiends-related article was just deleted. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 17:36, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• Delete the subject is adequately linked from the main article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:36, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:19, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Nazis killed in the Beer Hall Putsch}}

:Nominator's rationale: When I closed Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_August_26#Category:Nazi_martyrs, this category had 17 articles in it. Now it's all redirects except for two articles. If that had been the case at time of closure, I would have just deleted the category. So now I think it should just be deleted.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 16:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• Delete per nominator. It seems that most of the contents have been merged to Beer Hall Putsch, so we are left with a category full of redirects to one page. That's pointless. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:27, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• Delete no point in having a virtually all redirect category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:39, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• Delete. Most of the pages had very little content, so I merged them into the list within the article. I was going to wait and see if the merger is accepted before nominating the new category for deletion myself, but one NPOV historian has already said the merger was good work, so there is probably no need to delay. For the record: (1) The contents are all within :Category:Nazis who participated in the Beer Hall Putsch, so there is no need to upmerge. (2) The other 3 articles that were previously in :Category:Nazi martyrs are now interlinked via each article's "see also" section, with the less POV heading "Others given posthumous fame by the Nazis". – Fayenatic London 17:44, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment: see also last year's deletion decision Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 June 29#Category:Nazis killed in the Beer Hall Putsch. – Fayenatic London 17:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• No objection to what you did. Just noting that the circumstances of my close were different, and those differences suggest a new result to me.--Mike Selinker (talk) 18:24, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• No objection to your previous close, either! – Fayenatic London 18:15, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Delete: no need to keep as it has only basically become a redundant redirect cat, as well stated above. Kierzek (talk) 18:53, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Delete -- The only remaining issue is whether we may need to find another category to reflect that Max Erwin von Scheubner-Richter died in the putsch. Otherwise the category is empty apart from its main article and redirects. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:23, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
• Cmt - given the clear consensus to delete; the discussion should be closed and matter executed (keeping in mind Peterkingiron's note above). Kierzek (talk) 13:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:21, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:G.I. Joe media to :Category:G.I. Joe images

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. To be more in line with similar Wikipedia categories. :Category:G.I. Joe media contains nothing but images, and it is a subcategory of :Category:Images from fiction, where none of the other sub-categories contain the word "media". In addition, all the G.I. Joe sub-categories should be renamed accordingly:

:* :Category:G.I. Joe animated media to :Category:G.I. Joe animated images, per all the other sub-categories of :Category:Animated series images

:* :Category:G.I. Joe comic media to :Category:G.I. Joe comic images, per all the other sub-categories of :Category:Images from comics

:* :Category:G.I. Joe film media to :Category:G.I. Joe film images

:* :Category:G.I. Joe toy media to :Category:G.I. Joe toy images

:* :Category:G.I. Joe video game media to :Category:G.I. Joe video game images

:Fortdj33 (talk) 13:26, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• Rename for clarity. – Fayenatic London 18:15, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Upmerge. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:21, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Drone doom albums}}

:Nominator's rationale: drone doom is a redirect, upmerge to parent :Category:Drone metal albums —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:37, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• Upmerge to parent :Category:Doom metal albums. Oculi (talk) 09:42, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• Upmerge.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:57, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Cedar Fair Entertainment Company task force to :Category:Cedar Fair task force

:* Propose renaming :Category:Cedar Fair Entertainment Company articles to :Category:Cedar Fair articles

:* Propose renaming :Category:Cedar Fair Entertainment Company task force members to :Category:Cedar Fair task force members

:Nominator's rationale: Per page move Astros4477 (talk) 02:25, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• Note that I merged the 3 separate nominations for these categories. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:48, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment. The nominator refers to a page move, without specifying what page has been moved. Not very helpful :(
  AFAICS the page Wikipedia:WikiProject Amusement Parks/Task Forces/Cedar Fair has never been moved. It is probably appropriate to align the categories with the task force name, but if that is to be done then all such categories should be included. Two are not listed in this nomination :Category:Cedar Fair Entertainment Company articles by importance and :Category:Cedar Fair Entertainment Company articles by quality. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment, agree with above that all the TF categories should be updated, not just the 3 nominated above. Also, Template:WikiProject Amusement Parks would need to be updated too, original project was WP:WikiProject Cedar Fair before its merger to a TF. --Funandtrvl (talk) 15:43, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• The Cedar Fair task force was never a separate WikiProject. It was created as a task force due to some Wikipedians' interest in the area. Not sure why WP:WikiProject Cedar Fair was created later. Themeparkgc  Talk  22:20, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment Cedar Fair Entertainment Company was moved to Cedar Fair on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cedar_Fair#Requested_move September 9, 2012].--Astros4477 (talk) 00:49, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment. I'm not sure that the article move is directly relevant. It seems to me that the task force category names should align with those of the task force itself ... and that may not necessarily match the name of a head article.
  I would usually say that these are project categories, so the project should have a lot of leeway in naming its own categories, but there is something odd about this. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Amusement Parks/Task Forces/Cedar Fair is a redlink, so does this task force actually exist?
  Also, these category renamings have not been notified to the parent project Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Amusement Parks, so other project members will be unaware of what's happening to the categories. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:09, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose for now per my comments above. Whatever name the task force categories are at should be consistent between the categories, and this nomination of a subset will cause inconsistency. Also, the WikiProject should be notified, so that the project members can explain why we apparently have categories for a task force which has never been active. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:12, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose per BrownHairedGirl. If WikiProject consensus at a later date is to rename them, then we can open a new discussion. Themeparkgc  Talk  23:56, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: speedy rename per C2D. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:51, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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:* Propose renaming :Category:Walt Disney World Resort to :Category:Walt Disney World

:Nominator's rationale: Per page move Astros4477 (talk) 02:22, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• Question. Which page was moved, and when? Was it as the result of a move discussion? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:10, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• Speedy rename C2D. Walt Disney World Resort was moved to Walt Disney World on 12 July 2012 per this RM. – Fayenatic London 17:58, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge Durant, keep Blue Grass. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:12, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

:* Propose merging

:* :Category:People from Durant, Iowa to :Category:People from Muscatine County, Iowa

:* :Category:People from Blue Grass, Iowa to :Category:People from Muscatine County, Iowa

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Both of these towns have under 2000 people, so these categories are unlikely to expand. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 00:04, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• Merge both per nominator and per WP:SMALLCAT. I have checked the backlinks to both Durant, Iowa and Blue Grass, Iowa, and have searched for both terms ... but found nothing to add to these categories.
  Given the small size of both towns, I see no prospect of expansion. However, the county seat of Muscatine, Iowa has a population of 20,000 and most of the articles in the county category relate to people from that town. So those articles should be diffused to a :Category:People from Muscatine, Iowa. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:29, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• Merge Durant, keep Blue Grass per John Pack Lambert (changing my !vote). JPL makes a good about about the dual parenting, and without the town category, People from Blue Grass, Iowa are likely to be categorised under only one of the relevant counties. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)
• Merge both per nom and precedent. Oculi (talk) 13:09, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support for Durant. Blue Grass, Iowa however is in both Muscatine and Scott counties, and most of it is in Scott County, so I have to oppose the proposed merger. Multi-county cities are a special case that can be justified having from categories even when they are quite small.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:43, 24 September 2012 (UTC)