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==Category:Intersexuality in fiction==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming : Category:Intersexuality in fiction to : Category:Intersex in fiction

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. As per nomination below about :Category:Intersexuality, this change would bring the category name into line with the key article in the field, intersex. Please note separate nomination, below, to merge : Category:Novels about intersexuality‎ with : Category:Intersexuality in fiction. Nsw2042 (talk) 22:07, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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==Category:Works about intersexuality==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename to :Category:Works about intersex. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:20, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose delete {{Lc|Works about intersexuality}}

:Nominator's rationale: This category contains two small categories and no pages. It is a superfluous additional layer that makes it harder for users to access the information they seek. Nsw2042 (talk) 21:57, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

::Procedural note. The nomination is counted as a !vote, so there is no need to say "delete" again. I have therefore struck the word "delete". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:28, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

:::Reply: Part of the reason that the categories are underpopulated is that they have been inadequately parented, so editors would have difficulty finding them. I have been adding parent categories, which should help, but this is already a viable {{tl|container category}}, which assists navigation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:09, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

::::Reply: It would be great if :Category:Intersexuality in fiction could be moved into this category also, it seems to fit given your proposal. But that would introduce a circular reference which would also need resolving. Nsw2042 (talk) 23:21, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

::::Reply: I also should note that I don't agree with the fundamental problem: the categories are underpopulated primarily because material on intersex issues is scarce (and, IMHO, often regarded as non-notable). Nsw2042 (talk) 23:34, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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== Category:Documentary films about intersexuality ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:25, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming : Category:Documentary films about intersexuality to : Category:Documentary films about intersex

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. As per nomination below about :Category:Intersexuality, this change would bring the category name into line with the key article in the field, intersex. Nsw2042 (talk) 21:36, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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== Category:International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association ==

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:The result of the discussion was: KEEP. I accept BrownHairedGirl's argument that the nomination reason is flawed, and I find no space in Wikipedia policies for the general thrust of Peterkingiron's reasoning. I also note that several of the articles mentioned as potential members are now bluelinks, so the triviality argument has not withstood the test of time. -Splash - tk 21:35, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

:* Propose delete {{Lc|International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association}}

:Nominator's rationale: There is a single one item in this category, a page with the same name as the category. Seems superfluous. Nsw2042 (talk) 21:22, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Keep. There are now 3 items in the category, after I added 2 just from the "see also" list on the head article, which suggests that the nominator didn't do much scrutiny.
    ILGA is a global organisation with regional chapter roughly corresponding to continents. There currently appears to to be no article on ILGA-Asia, ILGA-North America, ILGA-Africa, or ILGA-LAC, but there may be scope for developing those into articles. Additionally, ILGA's reports are widely studied (see [https://www.google.com/search?q=ilga+%22international+lesbian%22&tbm=bks over 6,000 hits on Google Books]), and may themselves be the subject of encyclopedic articles. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:48, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

:*I did note that, but I still don't see the relevance of the category. Maybe that's partly because of the way it out-balances other materials on specific intersex organisations. The parent category is underpopulated. Nsw2042 (talk) 23:25, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Comment -- Intersex is a rare physical condition where a person is partly both male and female. LGBT is a mental condition, where a person wants to be (or pretend to be) a member of the opposite sex. These are quite different things. ILGA appears to be an attempt by the LGBT community to appropriate Intersex. Intersex people may have difficulties, because their condition is rare and contrary to the norm. WP should not be encouraging this confusion. We have much on LGBT, but not LGBTI band-waggoning. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:01, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

:*Comment those are very subjective statements, Peterkingiron, somewhat based on conjecture, and controversial. This is not the Iris Prize. My concerns are simply whether or not it's appropriate for an organisation to have a category associated with it, and the way in which notability in the area of intersex seems most often to depend upon activity in other (related) areas. Nsw2042 (talk) 22:54, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Regardless of the merits of the association, it's just too trivial to have a category with one or two articles. Delete. Peterkingiron, please stick to the merits of the category. Bearian (talk) 23:12, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

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== Category:Novels about intersexuality‎ ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename to :Category:Novels about intersex. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:31, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose merge : Category:Novels about intersexuality‎ with : Category:Intersexuality in fiction

:Nominator's rationale: Merge. : Category:Intersexuality in fiction is already identified as underpopulated. Nsw2042 (talk) 21:09, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

:*Note there is a separate nomination to change the name of : Category:Intersexuality in fiction to : Category:Intersex in fiction Nsw2042 (talk) 22:19, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

:*Just noting that this is actually a merger, because of the separate nomination for renaming :Category:Intersexuality in fiction to :Category:Intersex in fiction. (In summary, :Category:Intersexuality is a mess.) Nsw2042 (talk) 23:19, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

::*Oops! Wrong rename, now corrected. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:27, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

:::*Ok, that makes sense, but then we still have an underpopulated :Category:Intersex in fiction that really should contain all the pages in this category but only contains a single short story. And :Category:Intersex in fiction needs to be a subcategory of :Category:Works about intersex but isn't. Nsw2042 (talk) 00:31, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

:::*I just moved :Category:Intersexuality in fiction to :Category:Works about intersexuality (which seems logical given comments on :Category:Works about intersexuality) and now it's adjacent to :Category:Intersexuality literature, both of which seem to be about the same thing, and both of which contain the category :Category:Novels about intersexuality‎ Nsw2042 (talk) 00:36, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

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== Category:Intersexuality literature ==

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:The result of the discussion was: {{Relisted}} at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 December 29. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:04, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Intersexuality literature to : Category:Intersex in academic works

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. As per nomination below about :Category:Intersexuality, this change would bring the category name into line with the key article in the field, intersex. Additionally, there is already a proposal to merge :Category:Novels about intersexuality with :Category: Intersexuality in fiction and the title change would help disambiguate non-fiction academic works from fiction Nsw2042 (talk) 20:52, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Rename to :Category:Intersex literature. The proposed renaming is really an attempt to create a completely different category without any place in the existing category tree: there are [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=intitle%3Aacademic+works&fulltext=Search&ns14=1&redirs=1&profile=advanced no other categories containing the phrase "academic works"]. This would impede navigation, and make it harder for readers to find the books. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:04, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
  • The suggested rename to :Category:Intersex literature doesn't resolve other duplication and mis-description issues. With a rename to :Category:Intersex literature it simply duplicates :Category:Intersexuality in fiction and :Category:Novels about intersexuality‎. It also mis-describes: the 3 pages that are in this category are all examples of non-fiction, so the current description of the category seems inappropriate. It reads, "This category should only contain literature (prose, drama and poetry) that deals with or features important Intersex characters or issues." I appreciate that my suggestion may not be the only satisfactory possible outcome, but the broader issues need attention Nsw2042 (talk) 23:14, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
  • I think you misunderstand the way that the category system works as a lattice. Removing one part of that framework messes up the system and isolates material. The non-fiction pages should simply be categorised in a new category, but without removing this category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:31, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

::*I think I might understand it better if there wasn't so much duplication and so many sparsely populated categories. Nsw2042 (talk) 00:38, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

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== Category:Films about intersexuality ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:22, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming : Category:Films about intersexuality to : Category:Films about intersex

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. As per nomination below about :Category:Intersexuality, this change would bring the category name into line with the key article in the field, intersex. Nsw2042 (talk) 20:34, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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== Category:Intersexuality ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:15, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming : Category:Intersexuality to : Category:Intersex

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. The key page Intersexuality was moved to Intersex in 2010, see talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Intersex#Page_move_to_intersex. The rationale is the same: terms ending in sexuality usually refer to issues of sexuality. Shifting the category would bring the related category into line with the approved shift in name of page. Nsw2042 (talk) 20:34, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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==Category:Intersex-related awards==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:12, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose delete {{Lc|Intersex-related awards}}

:Nominator's rationale: There is only one item in this category, which appears to have been created on 29 May 2011. The category itself is only incidental to the main theme of the single page in the category, which is a gay and lesbian film award (possibly the perceived need for the category arises from the sometime use of LGBTI as a portmanteau rather than LGBT but it's inappropriate to duplicate all LGBT categories as Intersex categories in this way). Nsw2042 (talk) 20:11, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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==== Category:Anglican deans of the United Kingdom ====

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Anglican deans of the United Kingdom to :Category:Anglican deans

:Nominator's rationale: The Anglican communion is not organised on a UK-wide basis, and its boundaries do not coincide with those of the United Kingdom. In Northern Ireland (which is part of the UK), the local Anglican denomination is the Church of Ireland, which covers the whole of the Island of Ireland -- 5/6ths of which is an independent country outside the UK. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:44, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Upmerge per nom. If we are to have this it should in Anglican deans in Great Britain, for reasons given by BHG. However, the Church of England, Church in Wales, and Episcopal Church of Scotland are independent members of the Anglican Communion, so they should not be combined. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:08, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

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== Category:Pseudonymous albums ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:11, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Pseudonymous albums to :Category:Albums published under a pseudonym

:Nominator's rationale: Rename. The current name makes it sound like the albums are pseudonymous, when it's the artist who released the album under a pseudonym. The new name would be in line with its parent, :Category:Works published under a pseudonym. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:51, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

  • Question - are albums "published"? I would think :Category:Albums recorded under a pseudonym would be correct. However, we recently deleted categories for musicians and rappers who use pseudonyms. Wouldn't every album recorded by any of the artists formerly so categorized be eligible for inclusion in this category? Does this category therefore aid in navigation by a defining characteristic? I am tending toward thinking no but can be persuaded. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 21:45, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Rename -- Of course, albums that are issued for sale are "published". If I have a quibble about this at all, it is that many artistes record (and publish) under a stage name, which is technically (at least) a pseudonym. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:00, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete - amplifying on my previous comments, given that being a musical performer who performs under a pseudonym has been deemed not a defining characteristic of the performer it seems impossible that the same non-defining attribute can somehow be defining of those artists' product. This constitutes a back door into categorizing musicians by using pseudonyms and that door should remain closed. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 18:10, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

:Relisted from CFD 2013 November 21 to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Relisting comment: Note that at CFD 2013 November 9, there was a consensus to delete both Category:Pseudonymous musicians and Category:Pseudonymous rappers

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:16, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Delete - not a defining characteristic of an album. Oculi (talk) 19:59, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete this is too common to be worth categorizing by.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:21, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

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== Category:White House Executive Chefs ==

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:The result of the discussion was: KEEP. (Minor note: I don't really follow the logic of the nomination. If they are not performers and do not have performances, then this cannot be a....!)-Splash - tk 21:31, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:White House Executive Chefs to :Category:American chefs

:Nominator's rationale: Chefs are not performers, but in all other respects this is a type of performers-by-performance category, as deprecated by WP:OC#PERF. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:45, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Keep -- This is not a performance or award category, it appears to be a job within the White House. The article lists six (from 1961),including two red-links. If we have the articles, we should have the category. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:19, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Rename to :Category:White House chefs. I just noticed we also have articles on some of the executive pastry chefs, and see no real reason to split the the various offices so much, especially when there seem to have been to date only three white house executive pastry chefs.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:06, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Keep. Not a performance (singular or brief), but a job. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:52, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Keep - a well-known position at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. If there is an error in who is in the category, that's for normal editing, not this discussion. Bearian (talk) 23:24, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

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== Category:1978 in Zimbabwe ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename/merge. Note that not all of these were tagged, but given the history of this type of request, approval seems like a given. It will take a while to get these done since it is a manual process. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:1978 in Zimbabwe to :Category:1978 in Rhodesia

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:Nominator's rationale: Country wasn't called Zimbabwe until 1980. This swathe of categories should be renamed to reflect the contemporary name of the country. For simplicity's sake I would put categories for Southern Rhodesia from 1895 to 1964, Rhodesia from 1964 to 1979 and Zimbabwe thereafter (alternatively Southern Rhodesia up to 1979 and Zimbabwe starting from 1980, to make things even simpler). For years before 1895 (where necessary) we should use Zimbabwe in the absence of a contemporary name for the country, or alternatively Matabeleland or Mashonaland as appropriate —Cliftonian (talk) 10:39, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Oppose for now. This is quite right in principle, but if we are going to make the change, it should be done consistently for all relevant categories. If the nominator would like to expand this nomination to include them (see instructions at WP:CFD#HOWTO), I would be happy to support it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:04, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

:*I hope I've done this correctly. As you can see some of the "new" categories already exist, so in these cases it would be a case of merging two categories covering the same things. —Cliftonian (talk) 19:04, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

::* Good work! Will support this. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:28, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Merge all (changing my !vote) per nominator to avoid anachronisms. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:30, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Merge all -- The nom has precisely and correctly applied the recent precedent on countries that change names. Well done! Peterkingiron (talk) 22:11, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Rename/Merge all per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:24, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

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== Category:Wikipedia personalities ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:06, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Wikipedia personalities to :Category:Wikipedia people

:Nominator's rationale: I've nominated all of the {{cl|Internet personalities}} for speedy renames to match the head article of Internet celebrity, but this one is less about celebrities but rather just people where significant fame comes from being associated with wikipedia, but to me "celebrity" doesn't quite work, but I'd be happy for a rename to {{cl|Wikipedia celebrities}} as well if people prefer. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 19:45, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

::Note: see related discussion on the female category here

:Relisted from 2013 December 4 to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:49, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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== Category:Pogrom victims ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. As has been pointed out, we generally do not keep categories with one entry if they are not a part of a series. If there are more members at a later date where this is defining, the category can be recreated. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:12, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Pogrom victims}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete. Single-entry category that is both too narrow and too broad. The current occupant is the only verified death in a particular pogrom but the name of the category implies there was only one pogrom. I have added the article to appropriate murder victim categories. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 22:38, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Keep Sadly, there has been more than one victim of a pogrom in history; they just all haven't been added yet to this category. Arguing for the deletiion of this category and moving the victim of blatant anti-Semitic violence resulting in the murder of a Holocaust survivor into :Category:Polish murder victims and :Category:People murdered in Poland trivializes the specific details of this and thousands more such murders over the course of history. Róża Berger was interned in the Auschwitz concentration camp and survived (!!!), only to be killed in a pogrom in Krakow shortly after being liberated and the war ending. Somehow :Category:Polish murder victims and :Category:People murdered in Poland just doesn't capture the nuance of Berger's murder in the rather distinct way that :Category:Pogrom victims does. Deleting this category would make even less sense than deleting :Category:Assassinated United States Presidents, simply because John F. Kennedy is already included :Category:People murdered in Texas. Alansohn (talk) 03:25, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete It appears this category has had only one member article, Róża Berger, since some time in 2007. The purpose of categories is not to "capture the nuance" of anything, nor to serve as a tribute to anyone or anything. It is to group some number of related articles in logical ways to make them more accessible and facilitate research on a concept. This category seems to be a failure in that regard. Either someone needs to commit to taking the time to research and add articles to this category, or it should be deleted/merged with another category. I suggest it should be deleted until such time as someone has compiled a list of candidate articles, at which time it can be recreated. Dwpaul Talk 03:43, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete. The "Róża Berger" category was created during an edit war for the meaning of her killing by a communist soldier afraid of an ambush. She died because she refused to show herself from behind a closed door. Some Wikipedians argued (at another article) that it was not a pogrom while others insisted that it was, so the Category:Pogrom victims was created for her as a backdoor method of inserting an POV opinion. Poeticbent talk 05:35, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Keep All three reasons of the nominator are flawed. First reason is a known non-reason: there is only one entry now, but there is room for many more. Second reason is too vague: "too narrow and too broad" is not one of the reasons for deletion that are known to me. The third reason is a reason to rename to "Victims of pogroms". But that would imply that they were victims of more than one pogrom, so in short I think the present name is best. Debresser (talk) 11:54, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

:* WP:OC#SMALL is a well-established criterion for deletion. If there are legions of pogrom victims who suddenly acquire articles then the subject of the category can be revisited. No idea what you're on about regarding the rest of the nomination. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 12:20, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

::* WP:OC#SMALL is indeed a well-established criterion for deletion, but is legitimately used only in cases where it applies. Jerry, if you actually take look at WP:OC#SMALL, it does include the word "small" but then adds "...with no potential for growth". Unlike categories that "by their very definition, will never have more than a few members" (examples offered there are The Beatles' wives, Husbands of Elizabeth Taylor and Catalan-speaking countries), categories such as this one, which "have realistic potential for growth", are not targeted for deletion. Are you arguing that the number of articles for pogrom victims will never expand or do you have your own idiosyncratic reading of OC#SMALL that is both too narrow and too broad? Alansohn (talk) 15:27, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

:::* ignoring your trademark snark, if a category has remained at population one for well over six years, that seems a reasonable argument that it isn't going to expand any time soon. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 17:05, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

::* This is disservice to the Wikipedia community. I bet, users who run into :Category:Pogrom victims wonder why there's just one named individual recognized as such? Poeticbent talk 22:36, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

:::*Unclear to me whether that's a !vote to Keep or to Delete. Dwpaul Talk 02:01, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Keep and populate -- Pogroms were a specific kind of anti-semetic violence in 19th century Russia (then ruling Poland). I do not think it was limited to Poland. It may be that is is underrepresented in WP bio-articles; if so, it is a deficiency that needs to be corrected, as I cannot believe that all victims were NN. Since this was something that the state acquiesced in (possibly even encouraged), it is particularly heinous; obviously not on the scale of the holocaust; but it is still worse than a normal murder. Peterkingiron (talk) 12:01, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

:Relisted from 2013 December 5 to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:44, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. Alansohn (talk) 00:45, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Keep and populate as outlined above. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 19:55, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete The fact that people have had ample time to add more entries and have not suggests there are not more biographies. This is a one entry category, and I see no real claims of who other notable pogrom victims are.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:43, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

::Are you really suggesting that of the hundreds of thousands (at least) of Jews that were killed in progroms only one was notable? --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 17:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

::I agree with that comment. Not being an expert of this area of history, I do not know the number of people who were killed or who the victims were. This is essentially about the persecution of Jews in Tsarist Russia. This was less serious than the holocaust, but was a major driver of Jewish emigration to UK and USA; and thus why there are more Jews in New York than in Israel (or so it is claimed). Peterkingiron (talk) 13:22, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Delete/upmerge. Biography articles should mainly be categorized by what the person did that made them notable (e.g. their occupation). Categorization should not attempt to capture the nuances of how they died. See essay WP:DNWAUC. DexDor (talk) 09:47, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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== Category:Bungeling Empire trilogy ==

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:The result of the discussion was: DELETE, since merging is redundant. -Splash - tk 21:27, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Bungeling Empire trilogy}}

:Nominator's rationale: Results for {{Google|"bungeling empire trilogy" -wikipedia}} suggest this is an WP:OR "trilogy" of games that have the same organization as an antagonist. This came to my attention when I closed the AfD for that organization. WP:SMALLCAT probably also applies. BDD (talk) 00:08, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

::They're all in the parent category anyway, or I would've mentioned upmerging. --BDD (talk) 17:37, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Delete, redundant to merge per above. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:49, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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