Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 June 1

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Given that reliable sources and existing article names support the existing category name, this is highly unlikely to receive a consensus to rename at a subsequent relisting. No prejudice against a speedy renomination so long as all editors here are notified, but I don't think this needs relisting. (non-admin closure) ~ Rob^Talk 18:25, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:NBA championship seasons to :Category:NBA Finals champion seasons

:Nominator's rationale: The term "NBA championship seasons" is vague since "championship" could refer to division, conference or Finals. The proper name is NBA Finals, and the word "champion" should be used since it refers to the team and not the event. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:59, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose NBA championship commonly refers to the league championship, not a lesser conference or division championship. See List of NBA champions, an FL whose name uses the same naming convention when referring to the league champions. If there is any reasonable doubt, the description for :Category:NBA championship seasons already clearly states: "This category lists the seasons of basketball teams that won the NBA Finals."—Bagumba (talk) 08:25, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: moved — Music1201 ^talk 04:13, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Works by discipline to :Category:Works by academic discipline

:Nominator's rationale: An earlier 2012 creation by Stefanomione, let's at least rename so that it avoids the ill-defined nature of now-deleted :Category:Discipline, as outlined here Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_May_5#Category:Disciplines, and actually matches category's description:

::{{cat about|creative works by academic discipline}}

:... as well as the parent category, :Category:Academic disciplines. Pruning may be necessary -- with the addition of things like his Military works, it seems to me that Stefanomione was just muddying the waters again -- but this could be a workable category. No objection if someone wants to propose a better solution, including outright deletion. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:07, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• Support, proposed name is less ambiguous. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:10, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
• Support to remove ambiguity - but note that (1) there are links to the category (e.g. from :Category:Works by topic) that should be updated and (2) there are by-discipline subcats that should also be renamed. An alternative I would support is to merge this category (+subcats) into :Category:Works by topic (+subcats). DexDor ^(talk) 21:32, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
• Rename as proposed. Pichpich (talk) 22:13, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
• Support per nom. --PanchoS (talk) 12:36, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
• Split - X works and Works of X and X by discipline/field to :Category:Works by academic discipline; and Works about X to :Category:Works by topic. I'm not entirely sold that this all shouldn't simply just be an UpMerge to :Category:Works by topic. - jc37 23:06, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

:* Presumably this is what the nominator had in mind as well, when saying pruning may be necessary. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:59, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

::*Thank you, yes. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:25, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 04:37, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Works about the medical world to :Category:Works about medicine

:Nominator's rationale: Another terminal-stage Stefanomione creation in May that seems to be utterly pointless, useless to anyone other than himself, and an obstacle to easy and intuitive navigation for our readers. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:55, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• Possibly rename to :Category:Works about medicine by medium, otherwise merge as proposed. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:12, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
• Merge as proposed. Pichpich (talk) 22:11, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. --PanchoS (talk) 12:39, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 04:36, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Works about disciplines to :Category:Works by topic

:Nominator's rationale: With Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_May_5#Category:Disciplines, we had consensus that :Category:Disciplines was vague and undefined (:Category:Academic disciplines being a different matter, with its own bona fide main article, Discipline (academia).)

:In one of Stefanomione's final acts that led to the ANI that saw him banned, here he mixes together seemingly anything and everything as a "discipline"... from forensics to the arts to politics to healthcare, etc., etc.

:There's no meaningful delineation here, so let's upmerge to Works by topic. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:51, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• Support per nom, by defining 'discipline' as broadly as has been done here, it doesn't really differentiate from 'topic'. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:15, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Pichpich (talk) 22:12, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
• Support Per Marcocapelle's analysis. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:05, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:10, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

:*Propose merging :Category:Sankarist political parties in Burkina Faso to :Category:Sankarist political parties and :Category:Socialist parties in Burkina Faso

:Nominator's rationale: I actually created this category. But now I think it was a mistake per WP:OVERCAT. All Sankarist political parties are socialist and the vast majority of them are in Burkina Faso. Charles Essie (talk) 18:29, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• Keep Useful, sufficiently large category. Not prone to attracting numerous WP:NARROWCATs exactly because almost all of these are in Burkina Faso, so will probably never pose a problem for us. --PanchoS (talk) 12:32, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
• Merge as nominated. As would be expected, :Category:Sankarist political parties only has the single by-country subcategory, so it makes sense to me to just group them all together, especially since we can get them into the {{cat|Political parties in Burkina Faso}} tree in another more standard way. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 05:20, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
• Merge. WP:OVERLAPCAT with the subject of :Category:Sankarist political parties, since this is the only by country category there. ~ Rob^Talk 18:20, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
• Keep. This a reasonably-sized category of 12 articles, grouped by a shared defining characteristsic. The Burkina Faso subcat serves a useful function in clarifying the parent :Category:Sankarist political parties whose lone non-BurkinaF article (Black First Land First) is readily identifiable, but would be lost in amongst the dozen BF parties. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:35, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
• support nomination. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:37, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
• Keep per BHG; counting Economic Freedom Fighters, there are now two non-Burkinabe parties in the parent category. – Fayenatic London 13:01, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
• Keep per the reasons added by Fayenatic london. Dimadick (talk) 08:27, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep :Category:Pan-Africanist political parties in Africa; no consensus on :Category:Pan-Africanist political parties in the Caribbean. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 02:12, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Pan-Africanist political parties in Africa and :Category:Pan-Africanist political parties in the Caribbean to :Category:Pan-Africanist political parties

:Nominator's rationale: The parent category is small enough for all content in this subcategory to fit in. The vast majority of Pan-Africanist political parties are in Africa anyway Charles Essie (talk) 18:19, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• Keep Useful, sufficiently large category. Not prone to attracting numerous WP:NARROWCATs exactly because (almost) all of these are either in Africa or in the Carribean, so will probably never pose a problem for us. --PanchoS (talk) 12:33, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

:*Doesn't it a little pointless though when as result the parent category is almost empty? Why are separate categories needed for Pan-Africanist political parties in Africa or the Caribbean when there is plenty of room for their content in the parent category? (P.S. I decided to add :Category:Pan-Africanist political parties in the Caribbean to my proposal.) Charles Essie (talk) 20:26, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

::* {{ping|Charles Essie}} Personally, I don't think so. Frankly, I'm often in favor of yet another intersection that allows clean parenting to quite specific categories, as long as they don't produce or evoke a heap of WP:NARROWCATs. But let others decide. I'm not married with these ones. --PanchoS (talk) 02:24, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

• Upmerge the Caribbean category to all three parents per WP:SMALLCAT and keep the category in Africa since this is a healthy category. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:05, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

:* Pan-Africanism was and still is quite influential in the Caribbean. If need be, upmerge to {{cat|Pan-Africanist organizations in the Caribbean‎}}, until there are enough articles on parties. --PanchoS (talk) 17:31, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

::* That's indeed one of the three parent categories. But I would rather upmerge to all three. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:09, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

• Keep. There's almost certainly potential for growth in the Caribbean subcategory. ~ Rob^Talk 18:40, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
• Perhaps, but why is it necessary? A combined category wouldn't be that big. Charles Essie (talk) 20:50, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
• It allows categorization within :Category:Pan-Africanist organizations in the Caribbean and :Category:Pan-Africanist organizations in the Caribbean in addition to helping our readers find Pan-Africanist organizations in the Caribbean, which is a plausible category they would want to move between. ~ Rob^Talk 18:18, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: administrative close: category was speedily deleted and category creator was blocked. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 04:52, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|And These are the Facts}}

:Nominator's rationale: Category created with no apparent understanding of what categories are for, and states an intention to add a wide variety of unrelated topics BilCat (talk) 15:17, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• Delete - Totally meaningless category. GAB^gab 15:20, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
• Delete Absolutely no need for this category. RickinBaltimore (talk) 15:26, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

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