Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 June 13

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:The result of the discussion was: {{Relisted}} at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 June 23#Category:Laws affecting youth rights. ℯxplicit 04:52, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Laws affecting youth rights to :Category:Youth rights laws

:Nominator's rationale: "Laws affecting X" seems like a poor phrasing. Suggest renaming to fix it. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:57, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

• Comment -- The category is a right hotchpotch, mixing international conventions, some more related to children than youth, with the statute and law of several countries. This ought mainly to be a container category, but is not. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:08, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
• Rename laws to law, with no comment on the nominator's proposal. The current title sounds like it's meant for individual laws, e.g. Child Benefit Act 2005 but not Child labour law or the case law subcategory. This really ought to be a parent to :Category:Child labour law. Nyttend (talk) 00:01, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
• Merge with :Category:Children's rights instruments to :Category:Children's rights legislation, which is indeed the parent of :Category:Child labour law as requested by Nyttend. Both categories are about children (which may include youth), as earlier correctly pointed out by Peterkingiron, so they should be merged. I have tagged :Category:Children's rights instruments as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:03, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. ℯxplicit 04:52, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Video games based on Where's Waldo? to :Category:Video games based on Where's Wally?

:Nominator's rationale: Where's Wally? is the main title. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:02, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Although it did take me some time to find the main article... Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:04, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
• Potentially rename per nom. However, what's the character called in these games? If they're primarily American, i.e. he's typically called "Waldo" and not "Wally", I'd advocate for keeping on WP:ENGVAR grounds. Nyttend (talk) 23:52, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
• {{Ping|Nyttend}} But they are still based on the original books, which is "Where's Wally". ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:26, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
• Weak oppose, all articles in the category have the name Waldo in it. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:32, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

:Comment What about upmerging to the parent category? Is there a need to have this cat at all? Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 06:49, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

::Late ping to {{ping|Koavf|Nyttend|Marcocapelle}}. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 18:23, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

:::Well, it has two parent schemes: one is the book series and another is video games by a media franchise. I think that upmerging into the books one wouldn't be terrible but it would take away the ability to navigate by a media franchise. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:26, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

:::: Agree with Justin (koavf), hesitant about merging. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:28, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose. I was going to make the same point about the games all using "Waldo" and not "Wally" (accuracy making more sense here than consistency with the parent), but I ultimately found that all of the articles should be merged into one (if not the existing, main article), based on the sourcing. That's the better action here, and it would remove the category anyway. File:Eye close font awesome.svg czar 05:27, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. ℯxplicit 04:52, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Video games containing microtransactions}}

:Nominator's rationale: Is this at all WP:DEFINING? It's quite common for games these days. BDD (talk) 02:31, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• Support. Not a defining trait, based on the sourcing. Some games use it as a key feature and others use it as a supplement. Even when it can be defining, it isn't defining for all uses. czar 05:29, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename remaining two as nominated. ℯxplicit 04:52, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Lists of ambassadors by recepting subject of international law :Category:Lists of ambassadors by receiving country to :Category:Lists of ambassadors by mission country

:* :Category:Ambassador to Angola to :Category:Lists of ambassadors to Angola

:* :Category:Ambassador to Bolivia to :Category:Lists of ambassadors to Bolivia

:Nominator's rationale: This would at least match its parent {{cl|Ambassadors by mission country}} Tim! (talk) 17:58, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

• Support -- The present name is obscure, though accurate. :Category:Lists of ambassadors by sending country might be even better. Peterkingiron (talk) 10:21, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
• {{ping|Peterkingiron }} that would not be better, because it would be the wrong way round! – Fayenatic London
• Sorry -- :Category:Lists of ambassadors by receiving country or :Category:Lists of ambassadors by destination country. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:11, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
• Support, this is the counterpart to recently closed renamings of Fooian Ambassadors to "Lists of ambassadors from Foo". – Fayenatic London 23:33, 8 May 2017 (UTC).
• Comment - this category has now been moved by the original author to :Category:Lists of ambassadors by receiving country, which seems to me like a reasonable solution, although it would have been better for them to have come here and proposed it instead of just doing it. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:16, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
• Noted, but that's only one of the three nominated categories. {{ping|Regesta}} once a discussion has been started, please participate in it, rather than implementing your own choice. Why did you move that category to a name that is not consistent with the parent {{cl|Ambassadors by mission country}}? – Fayenatic London 18:54, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
• Mission (lat. mittere ‚to send‘) I have to admit that :Category:Lists of ambassadors by mission country is more comprehensive than :Category:Lists of ambassadors by receiving country. With the second you could exclude the ambassadors that got no Diplomatic accreditation (I had not intended) Regesta (talk) 14:12, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

• Support all – per {{cl|Ambassadors by mission country}} and Fayenatic. The other 2 are obvious renames. Oculi (talk) 07:31, 13 June 2017 (UTC)