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== Category:Bank Street School for Children alumni ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 20:17, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Bank Street School for Children alumni}}

:Nominator's rationale: This contains alumni of the elementary school, not the graduate school. It isn't verified in either of the two articles in this category. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:25, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

  • Delete -- Neither of the articles even mentions the school! Peterkingiron (talk) 18:47, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

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== Category:Redirects from Baluchi-language terms ==

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:The result of the discussion was: do not delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 09:03, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting fixing {{lc|Redirects from Baluchi-language terms}}

:Nominator's rationale: The relevant ISO 639 codes as applied to redirects aren't working as expected. While the 639 codes when used with lang-xx do function as expected ({{langx|bal|کویته|lit=Quetta}}), it doesn't work with {{tlg|R from language}}. It just says 'undetermined language' and fails to categorize. Same with all of its dialects.‬‎  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  17:04, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

::{{u|Mr. Guye}}, I take it that your goal is to have the {{tl|R from alternative language}} template work for Balochi, rather than to have the category deleted. The template appears to recognise a language code only if the relevant category exists, with the exact spelling as given by the tables used in Module:Lang. I don't know if this behaviour was introduced in the recent overhaul of the template, or whether it is desirable at all (pinging {{u|Trappist the monk|someone who might know}}). This failed for the individual Balochi varieties because the categories don't exist yet, and it failed for Balochi itself because the category uses the alternative spelling Baluchi. The solution is to move this category to :Category:Redirects from Balochi-language terms (which is in line both with the title of the wikipedia article and with the standard name expected by the template). – Uanfala (talk) 17:50, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Uanfala}} Yes, you are right about my intentions. I don't want this deleted. I want this to work. But should the spelling really matter though? The ISO 639-2 code bal refers to the language, not the spelling. "Bal" is contained in both spellings. From experience, if you use an ISO 639 code that is recognized but there is no category for, it shows up as a red category. That's not happening here. I don't care so much about which spelling variant it chooses as long as it refers to the language intended.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  18:43, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

::{{ec}}

:::The old {{oldid|Template:Lang|775049579|{{tld|lang|bal}}}} got the language name from {{tlx|ISO 639 name bal}} which returns the name '{{ISO 639 name|bal}}' (the ISO 639-2 and ISO 639-3 standard spelling so the correct output for the ISO 639 name template). Old {{tld|lang}} used that language name to build the category wikilink to {{cl|Articles containing Baluchi-language text}}. New {{tlx|lang|bal}} gets the language name from Module:Language/data/wp languages (one of two modules that Module:Lang uses to override ISO 639 / IANA language names) where bal has been mapped to 'Balochi' since it was added at {{oldid|Module:Language/data/wp languages|604301821|this version}}. {{tlx|R from alternative language}} uses {{tld|lang}}'s data tables so should be using 'Balochi'. When the language code is bal:

::::{{#invoke:Lang|name_from_code|bal}} → {{#invoke:Lang|name_from_code|bal}} (this {{#invoke:}} used in current version of {{tld|R from alternative language}})

::::{{ISO 639 name bal}} → {{ISO 639 name|bal}} (this template used in previous version)

:::Old version of {{tlx|lang-bal}} always returned 'Balochi' as does the current version.

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:::I don't know if this helps or hinders. I have no opinion on the question to hand.

:::—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:59, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

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== Foo in fiction ==

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:The result of the discussion was: File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 5%23Foo in fiction. Steel1943 (talk) 21:18, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Nominator's rationale: As with my past CFRs of this nature, make it clear that these categories are only to be used when the element of fiction is primary rather than incidental to the work. DonIago (talk) 16:49, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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== Category:Book by Ramesh Kumar P ==

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:The result of the discussion was: speedily deleted already as spam, see User talk:RameshKumarPIn. – Fayenatic London 15:47, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Book by Ramesh Kumar P}}

:Nominator's rationale: Vanity category, created by autor of single non-noteworthy book. TheLongTone (talk) 16:47, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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== Category:Ambulance services by continent ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge all. Timrollpickering (Talk) 17:50, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Ambulance services in Oceania to :Category:Emergency services in Oceania

:Nominator's rationale: 1 subcat - air ambulances Rathfelder (talk) 11:47, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Ambulance services in North America to :Category:Emergency services in North America

:Nominator's rationale: 1 subcat - air ambulances Rathfelder (talk) 11:46, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Ambulance services in Europe to :Category:Emergency services in Europe

:Nominator's rationale: I article, 1 sub cat - air ambulance services Rathfelder (talk) 11:45, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Ambulance services in Asia to :Category:Emergency services in Asia

:* Propose merging :Category:Ambulance services in Jordan to :Category:Emergency services in Jordan - added 15 December

:Nominator's rationale: 1 article, 2 subcats. Rathfelder (talk) 11:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Ambulance services in Africa to :Category:Emergency services in Africa

:Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article and a subcat Air ambulance services in Africa‎ Rathfelder (talk) 11:43, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Ambulance services by continent to :Category:Emergency services by continent

:Nominator's rationale: No actual articles. Subcats are essentially mirrors of the Air ambulance services tree. There are surprisingly few articles about ambulance services. Certainly not enough to justify a continent category tree. Rathfelder (talk) 11:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

  • Support, this whole extra category layer is nearly empty. I've taken the liberty to add the Jordan category to the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:10, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

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== Category:Heroes of the Donetsk People's Republic ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 20:16, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Heroes of the Donetsk People's Republic}}

:Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCAWARD and WP:NONDEF, not a defining characteristic of the people who are in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:27, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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== Mosques by city ==

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:The result of the discussion was: File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 5%23Mosques by city. Steel1943 (talk) 21:18, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Acre, Israel‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Acre, Israel‎ :Category:Mosques in Israel

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Alexandria‎ to :Category:Places of worship in Alexandria‎ and :Category:Mosques in Egypt

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Almaty‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Almaty‎ and :Category:Mosques in Kazakhstan

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Astana‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Astana‎ and :Category:Mosques in Kazakhstan

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Bandung‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Bandung‎ and :Category:Mosques in Indonesia

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Chiang Mai‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Chiang Mai‎ and :Category:Mosques in Thailand

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Colombo‎ to :Category:Places of worship in Colombo‎ and :Category:Mosques in Colombo District

{{cot|more categories nominated}}

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Constantine, Algeria‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Constantine, Algeria‎ and :Category:Mosques in Algeria

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Doha‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Doha‎ and :Category:Mosques in Qatar

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Frankfurt‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Frankfurt‎ and :Category:Religion in Frankfurt‎ and :Category:Mosques in Germany

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Grozny‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Grozny‎ and :Category:Mosques in Chechnya

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Iznik‎ to :Category:Mosques in Turkey

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Jhelum‎ to :Category:Jhelum and :Category:Mosques in Punjab, Pakistan

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Kiev‎ to :Category:Places of worship in Kiev‎ and :Category:Mosques in Ukraine

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Makhachkala‎ to :Category:Makhachkala‎ and :Category:Mosques in Russia

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Manisa‎ to :Category:Manisa‎ and :Category:Mosques in Turkey

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Medan‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Medan‎ and :Category:Mosques in Indonesia

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Metro Manila‎ to :Category:Places of worship in Metro Manila‎ and :Category:Mosques in the Philippines

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Moscow‎ to :Category:Places of worship in Moscow‎ and :Category:Mosques in Russia

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Nagpur‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Nagpur‎ and :Category:Mosques in Maharashtra

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Paris‎ to :Category:Places of worship in Paris‎ and :Category:Mosques in France

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Peqin‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Peqin‎ and :Category:Mosques in Albania

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Peshawar‎ to :Category:Places of worship in Peshawar‎ and :Category:Mosques in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Raqqa‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Raqqa‎ and :Category:Mosques in Syria

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Rožaje‎ to :Category:Rožaje‎ and :Category:Mosques in Montenegro

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Safranbolu‎ to :Category:Mosques in Turkey

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Sialkot‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Sialkot‎ and :Category:Mosques in Punjab, Pakistan

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Sukkur‎ to :Category:Sukkur‎ and :Category:Mosques in Sindh

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Surabaya‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Surabaya‎ and :Category:Mosques in Indonesia

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Swat District‎ to :Category:Swat District‎ and :Category:Mosques in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Taipei‎ to :Category:Places of worship in Taipei‎ and :Category:Mosques in Taiwan

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Taoyuan City‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Taoyuan City‎ and :Category:Mosques in Taiwan

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Tel Aviv‎ to :Category:Places of worship in Tel Aviv‎ and :Category:Mosques in Israel

:*Propose merging :Category:Mosques in Tripoli‎ to :Category:Buildings and structures in Tripoli‎ and :Category:Mosques in Libya

{{cob}}

:Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, all the above categories contain 1 or 2 articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:54, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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== Category:Vietnamese-language television networks in Canada ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Vietnamese-language television networks without leaving redirects. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:07, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Vietnamese-language television networks in Canada}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Vietnamese-language television in Canada}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Vietnamese-language broadcasting in Canada}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Vietnamese-language media in Canada}}

:Nominator's rationale: Overgrown nest of four categories that exists just to smother one article in defiance of WP:SMALLCAT. Canada does not have a large enough array of Vietnamese-language media to need this. Bearcat (talk) 04:28, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

::A merge nomination would automatically require the retention of one or all of the nominated categories as category redirects. The article can be very easily readded to the target category without needing any of these to be retained in that form. Bearcat (talk) 23:01, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

  • Keep just one category, renamed to {{lc|Foreign language television networks in Canada}}. French and English networks would be excluded as native languages. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:11, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

::We already have {{cl|Multicultural and ethnic television in Canada}}. Bearcat (talk) 16:56, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

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== Category:Independent Film Channel network shows ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (Talk) 20:18, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Independent Film Channel network shows to :Category:IFC (U.S. TV channel) shows

:Nominator's rationale: Updating to reflect channel's current name and correspond with its article title. Trivialist (talk) 03:06, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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== Category:South Alexandria, Virginia ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 20:15, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|South Alexandria, Virginia}}

:Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a city neighbourhood, which consists only of a redirect and a navbox template. There's no pressing need for this, as a city with a population of just 155K does not need to have its contents obsessively subcategorized down to each individual neighbourhood within it. Bearcat (talk) 01:46, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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== Category:Births in Sillery ==

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:The result of the discussion was: File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 5%23Category:Births in Sillery. Steel1943 (talk) 21:18, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Births in Sillery to :Category:People from Quebec City

:Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia does not use the category system to segregate people who were born in a place from people who moved there after birth. Bearcat (talk) 01:18, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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== Category:Deaths in Sillery ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 20:14, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Deaths in Sillery}}

:Nominator's rationale: Inappropriate category for deaths in one particular borough of a single city. We don't even categorize people by country in which they died, let alone by individual city or borough within that country. Bearcat (talk) 01:14, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

  • Delete per nominator. Per the long-standing guidance at WP:Categorization of people#By_place that "The place of death is not normally categorized". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:36, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Delete per nominator and User:BrownHairedGirl's provision of the guidance located at WP:Categorization of people#By_place. As an aside and an FYI, if one is not already aware, Wikidata has a property, category for people who died here: [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1465 Property:P1465] which is utilized to create the claim Category:Deaths in XYZ for the {{Q|Q18658526}} XYZ, e.g., {{Q|Q6378606}}. This Wikidata claim is a source of categorical data for multiple language Wikipedias, Wikinews, Wikisource, and Wikimedia Commons. (See [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6378606 at the bottom] of the page.) Dcflyer (talk) 06:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Delete place of death has not been accepted as defining, and hence categorization by it is not appropriate. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:32, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

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