Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 16#Category:Photometry
= December 16 =
== Category:Health care ==
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:The result of the discussion was: keep, given the lack of consensus to move the main article (see Talk:Health care#Requested move 2 December 2018). -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:42, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Health care to :Category:Healthcare (presently a soft redirect)
:** :Category:Catholic health care to :Category:Catholic healthcare
:Nominator's rationale: The change of the parent category from "Health care" to "Healthcare" is proposed because "Healthcare" is a recognised noun and when spoken is spoken as one word not two e.g. "Healthcare in Australia" would be spoken without a pause between health and care. The majority of the country subcategories e.g. :Category:Healthcare in Australia use one word apart from the 4 or 5 countries below (15 out of 20)
:The subcatgories which would also require changing are:::Category:Health care in Cyprus,::Category:Health care in France, :Category:Health care in New Zealand, :Category:Health care in Spain & :Category:Health care in Catalonia.
:NB: Probably the articles Health care and Catholic Church and health care should also have notices of proposed changes but I am unsure how to do this. Hugo999 (talk) 12:06, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- Procedural comment, this nomination should probably be preceded by a WP:RM in order to have the main article Health care renamed. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:13, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- :A move discussion is now in progress at Talk:Health care#Requested move 2 December 2018. -- Black Falcon (talk) 06:04, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Waiting for the RM to close...
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:08, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: There are 7 categories included in this nomination: 2 topic-level, 5 country-level. -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:10, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Now oppose, after the RM has been closed as no consensus. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Procedural oppose. The article and category have been flipping back and forth between "healthcare" and "health care" for years, because people have passionate but honest disagreement about which form should be preferred. Ideally, it would be better if we could find some compromise term which avoids having to continually argue over whether there should be a space between the "health" and "care" elements or not — but whatever is decided, the categories should follow the same spelling as the head article does, and the RM discussion on the article was closed no consensus. Bearcat (talk) 19:36, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Can I suggest we might depart from the rule that we follow the main article in the spelling of the category? The category system is scattered with both spellings. There is no logic to it, and I doubt if anyone actually cares about it. I cant say that I care much which we use. But having two different spellings with no reason at all is a nuisance. And, for what it is worth, my impression is that in literature about the topic, businesses etc. there is a slow move towards using one word, especially in information technology. There are certainly a lot more than 7 categories affected. Rathfelder (talk) 23:16, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose The RM was closed as no consensus, and thus the main article is still Health care. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:59, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per {{u|Marcocapelle}} in reference to "no consensus" (at least for now) on Talk:Health care. Chicbyaccident (talk) 16:17, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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== Category:Theological term ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (Talk) 20:00, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Theological term to :Category:Christian terminology
:Nominator's rationale: First off, really bad name. The apparent intended meaning was something like "Terminology in Christian theology", because it is a subcategory of {{lc|Christian theology}} and all except for (ironically) Religious exclusivism are stubs that are solely within the scope of Christianity and its denominations. Not only that, the current title of the category is singular, against convention.
: The subject overlaps significantly if not entirely with {{lc|Christian terminology}}, which has an impressive collection of undeniably theological terms (Biblical infallibility, Brotherly love (philosophy), Neonominalism, Paraclete) that would be a better place for terms like Fides quaerens intellectum. The title 'Theological term' should then be redirected to {{lc|Religious terminology}}. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 21:15, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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== Category:Aliases of 76.66 ==
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:The result of the discussion was: listified, and posted to the project's talk. It can be deleted if users there have no utility for it. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:55, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
:Convert :Category:Aliases of 76.66 to article Wikipedia:Aliases of 76.66
:Nominator's rationale: I don't see how this topic is relevant to the whole AfC project. Might be better off as a historical page in the project namespace. Flooded with them hundreds 08:01, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Outdated - we don't need to convert this or retain this information. Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:34, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Posted a notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:11, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Listify. This would be better as a list than as a category. Bearcat (talk) 18:38, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Comment never heard of it or seen it used and I do a lot of AfC. Delete unless someone comes up with a reason to keep it. Legacypac (talk) 02:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. Don't think there is any reason to keep it. Ben5218 (talk) 20:55, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
- This range of 76.66 contributor IP addresses was blocked for 6 months from 31 July 2018. {{ping|BU Rob13}} please could you explain why? Is it only because of this?[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/ConsumersDistributingonline&diff=prev&oldid=840030746] – Fayenatic London 14:26, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- {{re|Fayenatic london}} I can't comment on whether my range block was related to any specific SPI case, because I made it based on CU data. I will say it wasn't based on logged-out edits, though. It was primarily to block account creation on the range. ~ Rob13Talk 14:40, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. Well, it looks as if we can simply delete this as obsolete since 2011. – Fayenatic London 15:26, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Creepy IP stalking. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:28, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1945 Canadian federal election ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 17:12, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1945 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1945 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1949 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1949 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1953 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1953 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1957 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1957 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1958 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1958 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1962 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1962 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1963 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1963 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1968 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1968 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1972 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1972 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1974 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1974 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1979 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1979 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1980 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1980 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1984 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1984 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1988 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1988 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1993 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1993 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 1997 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 1997 Canadian federal election
:* Propose merging :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates in the 2000 Canadian federal election to :Category:Progressive Conservative Party of Canada candidates for the Canadian House of Commons and :Category:Candidates in the 2000 Canadian federal election
:Nominator's rationale: As with Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_July_23#Category:Liberal_Party_of_Canada_candidates_in_the_1867_Canadian_federal_election and other past examples, this represents an overly granular distinction for the level of notability that it actually entails. We don't categorize actual Members of Parliament by which individual sessions of parliament they sat in or which individual elections they ran in, so there's no compelling reason to categorize candidates more specifically than we do the actual winners. Further, this creates a significant degree of category bloat, since candidates often do not run just once but frequently try again once or several more times in subsequent elections — and since having been a non-winning candidate for Parliament is not a notability claim in and of itself, but rather people only have articles to file in here if they already had preexisting notability for another reason (e.g. provincial MLAs), it results in most of the categories being unnecessary WP:SMALLCATs with just a handful of entries. Note that I am aware that some parallel categories still exist for other political parties as well — there are far too many to tackle in one batch, so I've been tackling it in pieces one party at a time. Bearcat (talk) 18:24, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete, (just) candidates should not be categorized as such (they are merely politicians), and actual MPs are sufficiently categorized anyway. (If there is no consensus to delete then the merge nomination is the next best thing to do.) Marcocapelle (talk) 21:50, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete -- Candidates who fail to get elected are NN per WP:POLITICIAN, so that we should not have categories for them, even if they may be notable for other reasons. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:02, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete unelected candidates are not notable. We need to avoid categories that may suggest otherwise.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:45, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Category:Anti-nuclear protests by country ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge both to :Category:Anti-nuclear protests, and the latter also to :Category:Anti-nuclear movement in the United Kingdom. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:48, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Anti-nuclear protests by country to :Category:Anti-nuclear protests
:Nominator's rationale: 2 subcats, one of which is nominated for deletion Rathfelder (talk) 16:54, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Anti-nuclear protests in the United Kingdom to :Category:Anti-nuclear movement in the United Kingdom
:Nominator's rationale: 1 article Rathfelder (talk) 16:53, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Support per WP:SMALLCAT however the latter category should also be merged to :Category:Anti-nuclear protests. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:58, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Support with no objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5 articles or so. RevelationDirect (talk) 04:21, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Upmerge too small of categories to be useful at this time.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:42, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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== Category:Anti-war protests in the United Kingdom ==
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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:52, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Anti-war protests in the United Kingdom}}
:Nominator's rationale: 1 (anti-nuclear) subcategory Rathfelder (talk) 16:52, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Support, with the dual merge per nomination above this category becomes empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:05, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Dual Upmerge as proposed by Marcocapelle. RevelationDirect (talk) 04:21, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Category:Peace movement by former country ==
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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. While there is a pretty clear consensus these categories should be upmerged, one key question is unclear: should the anti-nuclear movement as a whole, or only the anti–nuclear weapons movement, be considered part of the peace movement? As this discussion has become stale, I recommend renominating these categories in a way that recognizes the need to merge the contents to at least one parent category. -- Black Falcon (talk) 01:12, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peace movement by former country}}
:Nominator's rationale: 1 subcategory Rathfelder (talk) 16:51, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peace movement in Vanuatu}}
:Nominator's rationale: 1 subcategory Rathfelder (talk) 16:47, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peace movement in the United States}}
:Nominator's rationale: 2 subcategories Rathfelder (talk) 16:47, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peace movement in the United Kingdom}}
:Nominator's rationale: 2 subcategories Rathfelder (talk) 16:46, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peace movement in Pakistan}}
:Nominator's rationale: 1 subcategory Rathfelder (talk) 16:45, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peace movement in Norway}}
:Nominator's rationale: 1 subcategory Rathfelder (talk) 16:45, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peace movement in New Zealand}}
:Nominator's rationale: 1 subcategory Rathfelder (talk) 16:44, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peace movement in Israel}}
:Nominator's rationale: 1 article, 1 subcategory Rathfelder (talk) 16:44, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Peace movement in India to :Category:Peace organizations based in India
:Nominator's rationale: only one article and one subcategory Rathfelder (talk) 16:42, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peace movement in Germany}}
:Nominator's rationale: only one sub category Rathfelder (talk) 16:41, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peace movement in Austria}}
:Nominator's rationale: Only one article Rathfelder (talk) 16:40, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peace movement by country}}
:Nominator's rationale: Mirror of :Category:Anti-nuclear movement by country. The country sub cats almost all only contain the :Category:Anti-nuclear movement in Foo Rathfelder (talk) 16:39, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Peace movement in the Soviet Union to :Category:Peace organizations based in the Soviet Union
:Nominator's rationale: the articles are about organisations, not a movement. Rathfelder (talk) 16:33, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- This proposal aims to remove the category layer Peace movement between Pacifism and Social movements on the one hand and Anti-nuclear movement on the other hand. The layer Peace movement just by itself is almost empty so the idea of the nomination makes perfect sense. However, more merge targets need to be specified in order to ensure that the content remains in the Pacifism and Social movement tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:17, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose as nominated. Yes, these are smallcats, but as Marcocapelle notes the remedy should be merger not deletion. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:20, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- :I think the actual articles, of which there are not many, are already in those categories, but I will check. Rathfelder (talk) 16:17, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- :: The Anti-nuclear movement subcats should also remain in the Pacifism and Social movements trees. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:36, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- :::There are two separate trees - nuclear power, which is nothing to do with pacifism, and nuclear weapons, which is. Rathfelder (talk) 23:24, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- :::: The parents of Peace movement are Pacifism and Social movements. Obviously the Anti-nuclear movement subcats should remain in these two trees. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:22, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
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== Category:Photometry ==
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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 21:46, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Photometry to :Category:Photometry (optics)
:Nominator's rationale: An opposed speedy. Renaming is to bring category name in conformity with main article Photometry (optics). Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:45, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
{{collapse top|Copy of speedy discussion}}
- :Category:Photometry to :Category:Photometry (optics) – C2D per Photometry (optics) Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:03, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hold on. I'm not sure I agree with this.--Srleffler (talk) 01:50, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- Moved to a full discussion here. {{ping|Srleffler}} I would be interested in hearing why you may disagree. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
{{collapse bottom}}
:*Oppose The category is currently broader than Photometry (optics) is. The different meanings of "Photometry" that are covered on the disambiguation page are all related to one another, and the category covers the broader topic. We should not rename the category simply to match the article title. If the category is to be renamed, it should be because there is a consensus to narrow the category's scope.--Srleffler (talk) 13:00, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
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== Category:Egyptian Premier League footballers ==
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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 21:49, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Egyptian Premier League footballers to :Category:Egyptian Premier League players
:Nominator's rationale: I don't think that "footballers" is the correct word to use here. "Players" is more suitable in my opinion and is used in other leagues' categories. I originally moved it by myself but it was reverted after less than five minutes. Ben5218 (talk) 21:37, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Rename but to something like :Category:Footballers in the Egyptian Premier League. Footballers is the usual term in :Category:Association football players by country, but 'Egyptian Premier League footballers' is ambiguous, as I immediately thought of Mo Salah, an Egyptian playing in the Premier League. Oculi (talk) 00:30, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- {{replyto|Oculi}} By the way, this category is about the league players, not something else. I proposed that name because almost all leagues use this name. We have :Category:Bundesliga players, :Category:Premier League players, :Category:La Liga players, :Category:Ligue 1 players, and many more. Ben5218 (talk) 08:10, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- ::You are quite right about 'players' being used for the leagues. There is :Category:Footballers (for many different varieties of football), then :Category:Association football players some subcats of which use 'footballers' and others 'players'. 'Egyptian Premier League players' remains ambiguous however, so I would suggest :Category:Players in the Egyptian Premier League. Oculi (talk) 12:18, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- ::: I respect your opinion, but I still believe that :Category:Egyptian Premier League players is the correct name to use and don't think that it would be a good idea to name it anything else except that. Ben5218 (talk) 13:14, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
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== Roman Catholic churches by city ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated, without prejudice to recreating if/when there is more content to support categorization by city. It is important to remember that, just because one or two articles are in "category A" and "category B", it does not follow that "category A and B" has to be created. Looking through a sample of the nominated categories, it is apparent that a significant number of Roman Catholic churches in X categories were inappropriately/prematurely fully diffused by city, even if the category contained far too few articles to warrant subcategories. -- Black Falcon (talk) 01:37, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Aberdeen to :Category:Churches in Aberdeen and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Scotland
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Adelaide to :Category:Churches in Adelaide and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in South Australia
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Amman to :Category:Churches in Amman and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Jordan
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Atchison, Kansas to :Category:Churches in Atchison, Kansas and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Kansas
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Auckland to :Category:Churches in Auckland and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in New Zealand
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Augsburg to :Category:Churches in Augsburg and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Bavaria
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Baku to :Category:Churches in Baku and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Azerbaijan
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Barga to :Category:Churches in Barga and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tuscany
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Bath, Somerset to :Category:Churches in Bath, Somerset and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Somerset
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Bayonne, New Jersey to :Category:Churches in Bayonne, New Jersey and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in New Jersey
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Birkenhead to :Category:Churches in Birkenhead and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Merseyside
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Boise, Idaho to :Category:Churches in Boise, Idaho and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Idaho
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Bremen (city) to :Category:Churches in Bremen (city) and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Bremen (state)
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Brookline, Massachusetts to :Category:Churches in Brookline, Massachusetts and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Massachusetts
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Burlington, Iowa to :Category:Churches in Burlington, Iowa and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Iowa
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Cairo to :Category:Churches in Cairo and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Egypt
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Canton, Ohio to :Category:Churches in Canton, Ohio and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Ohio
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Cape Girardeau, Missouri to :Category:Churches in Cape Girardeau, Missouri and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Missouri
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Carmignano to :Category:Churches in Carmignano and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tuscany
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Cedar Rapids, Iowa to :Category:Churches in Cedar Rapids, Iowa and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Iowa
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Charlotte, North Carolina to :Category:Churches in Charlotte, North Carolina and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in North Carolina
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Chester to :Category:Churches in Chester and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Cheshire
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Christchurch to :Category:Churches in Christchurch and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in New Zealand
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Colorado Springs, Colorado to :Category:Churches in Colorado Springs, Colorado and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Colorado
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Dedham, Massachusetts to :Category:Churches in Dedham, Massachusetts and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Massachusetts
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Dhaka to :Category:Churches in Dhaka and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Bangladesh
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Dodge City, Kansas to :Category:Churches in Dodge City, Kansas and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Kansas
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Dortmund to :Category:Churches in Dortmund and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in North Rhine-Westphalia
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Dubai to :Category:Churches in Dubai and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in the United Arab Emirates
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Duluth, Minnesota to :Category:Churches in Duluth, Minnesota and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Minnesota
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Dundee to :Category:Churches in Dundee and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Scotland
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Dunedin to :Category:Churches in Dunedin and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in New Zealand
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Fort Madison, Iowa to :Category:Churches in Fort Madison, Iowa and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Iowa
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Fresno, California to :Category:Churches in Fresno, California and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in California
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Fuzhou to :Category:Churches in Fuzhou and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in China
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Galveston, Texas to :Category:Churches in Galveston, Texas and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Texas
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Gloucester to :Category:Churches in Gloucester and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Gloucestershire
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Grand Rapids, Michigan to :Category:Churches in Grand Rapids, Michigan and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Michigan
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Grodno to :Category:Churches in Grodno and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Belarus
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Halifax, Nova Scotia to :Category:Churches in Halifax, Nova Scotia and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Nova Scotia
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Helsinki to :Category:Churches in Helsinki and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Finland
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Hyderabad, India to :Category:Churches in Hyderabad, India and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Telangana
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Iowa City, Iowa to :Category:Churches in Iowa City, Iowa and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Iowa
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Jacksonville, Florida to :Category:Churches in Jacksonville, Florida and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Florida
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Jersey City, New Jersey to :Category:Churches in Jersey City, New Jersey and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in New Jersey
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Kallianpur to :Category:Churches in Kallianpur and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Karnataka
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Knoxville, Tennessee to :Category:Churches in Knoxville, Tennessee and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tennessee
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Lafayette, Louisiana to :Category:Churches in Lafayette, Louisiana and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Louisiana
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Lake Charles, Louisiana to :Category:Churches in Lake Charles, Louisiana and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Louisiana
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Leicester to :Category:Churches in Leicester and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Leicestershire
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Lemont, Illinois to :Category:Churches in Lemont, Illinois and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Illinois
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Little Rock, Arkansas to :Category:Churches in Little Rock, Arkansas and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Arkansas
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Lowell, Massachusetts to :Category:Churches in Lowell, Massachusetts and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Massachusetts
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Massillon, Ohio to :Category:Churches in Massillon, Ohio and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Ohio
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Melaka City to :Category:Churches in Melaka and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Malaysia
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Memphis, Tennessee to :Category:Churches in Memphis, Tennessee and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tennessee
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Middletown, Connecticut to :Category:Churches in Middletown, Connecticut and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Connecticut
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Miskolc to :Category:Churches in Miskolc and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Hungary
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Moscow to :Category:Churches in Moscow and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Russia
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Natchez, Mississippi to :Category:Churches in Natchez, Mississippi and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Mississippi
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Nebraska City, Nebraska to :Category:Churches in Nebraska City, Nebraska and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Nebraska
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in New Bedford, Massachusetts to :Category:Churches in New Bedford, Massachusetts and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Massachusetts
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in New Delhi to :Category:Churches in New Delhi and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Delhi
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in New Haven, Connecticut to :Category:Churches in New Haven, Connecticut and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Connecticut
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Newcastle to :Category:Churches in Newcastle and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tyne and Wear
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Newton, Massachusetts to :Category:Churches in Newton, Massachusetts and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Massachusetts
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Nottingham to :Category:Churches in Nottingham and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Nottinghamshire
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Nuremberg to :Category:Churches in Nuremberg and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Bavaria
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Oakland, California to :Category:Churches in Oakland, California and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in California
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Oklahoma City to :Category:Churches in Oklahoma City and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Oklahoma
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Orlando, Florida to :Category:Churches in Orlando, Florida and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Florida
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Oslo to :Category:Churches in Oslo and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Norway
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Owensboro, Kentucky to :Category:Churches in Owensboro, Kentucky and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Kentucky
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Oxford to :Category:Churches in Oxford and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Oxfordshire
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Peshawar to :Category:Churches in Peshawar and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Pakistan
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Portland, Oregon to :Category:Churches in Portland, Oregon and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Oregon
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in San Diego to :Category:Churches in San Diego and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in California
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Saskatoon to :Category:Churches in Saskatoon and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Saskatchewan
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan to :Category:Churches in Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Michigan
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Scranton, Pennsylvania to :Category:Churches in Scranton, Pennsylvania and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Pennsylvania
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Seoul to :Category:Churches in Seoul and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in South Korea
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Shenzhen to :Category:Churches in Shenzhen and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in China
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Shreveport, Louisiana to :Category:Churches in Shreveport, Louisiana and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Louisiana
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Shrewsbury to :Category:Churches in Shrewsbury and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Shropshire
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Springfield, Massachusetts to :Category:Churches in Springfield, Massachusetts and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Massachusetts
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Springfield, Ohio to :Category:Churches in Springfield, Ohio and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Ohio
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in St. Augustine, Florida to :Category:Churches in St. Augustine, Florida and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Florida
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in St. Helens, Merseyside to :Category:Churches in St. Helens, Merseyside and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Merseyside
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Stockholm to :Category:Churches in Stockholm and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Sweden
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tallahassee, Florida to :Category:Churches in Tallahassee, Florida and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Florida
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tangier to :Category:Churches in Tangier and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Morocco
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tbilisi to :Category:Churches in Tbilisi and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Georgia (country)
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tehran to :Category:Churches in Tehran and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Iran
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tel Aviv to :Category:Churches in Tel Aviv and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Israel
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in the City of Lancaster to :Category:Churches in the City of Lancaster and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Lancashire
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tirana to :Category:Churches in Tirana and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Albania
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tiruchirappalli to :Category:Churches in Tiruchirappalli and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tamil Nadu
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Topeka, Kansas to :Category:Churches in Topeka, Kansas and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Kansas
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Trenton, New Jersey to :Category:Churches in Trenton, New Jersey and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in New Jersey
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Tulsa, Oklahoma to :Category:Churches in Tulsa, Oklahoma and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Oklahoma
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Vancouver to :Category:Churches in Vancouver and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in British Columbia
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Waltham, Massachusetts to :Category:Churches in Waltham, Massachusetts and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Massachusetts
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Wiesbaden to :Category:Churches in Wiesbaden and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Hesse
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Worms, Germany to :Category:Churches in Worms, Germany and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Rhineland-Palatinate
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Youngstown, Ohio to :Category:Churches in Youngstown, Ohio and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Ohio
:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Zanesville, Ohio to :Category:Churches in Zanesville, Ohio and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Ohio
:Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, all the above categories contain only 1 or 2 articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:27, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Support merging most though I question somewhat the inclusion of some of them. I also think that you could have chosen more specific church categories. I'll expand later. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 23:02, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - most of the cities such as Auckland, Tulsa, Tiblisi, etc. are quite large and it isn't entirely unreasonable to expect that there either other articles on churches that are of the catholic denomination either out there or that could be created, therefore WP:SMALLCAT is not applicable. Also these more specific articles help prevent clutter, both from having too many articles in 1 category, and having 2 categories in the same article when 1 specific one could do the job just as well. Inter&anthro (talk) 04:52, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
:* These are a number of different objections and I'll counter them one by one:
::# In Auckland 13% of the population consists of Catholics. In Georgia (Tbilisi is the capital of Georgia) 84% of the population is Orthodox and Catholicism is one of many minorities. Tulsa is part of a Protestant Bible belt. In neither of these cities we can expect to have a large number of notable Catholic church buildings.
::# Having too many articles in 1 category is not an issue here.
::# Having 2 categories in the same article when 1 specific one could do the job just as well is a poor argument. If we would just want to have as little category designations in an article as possible, every article would simply have its own category. The idea of categories however is that you find a reasonable number of related articles easily.
:: - Marcocapelle (talk) 07:15, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
::*To counter your first point, according to google maps there are [https://www.google.com/maps/search/Catholic+Church/@36.0309867,-96.1187943,10z?hl=en 20] churches of the catholic denomination in Tulsa, [https://www.google.com/maps/search/Catholic+Church/@41.7095138,44.7843869,14z?hl=en 5] in Tiblisi, and over [https://www.google.com/maps/search/Catholic+Church/@-36.8587619,174.6375621,11z/data=!3m1!4b1?hl=en 40] in the Auckland area. Sure not all these buildings will be notable by Wikipedia standards, but there is a potential for growth here and therefore WP:SMALLCAT is not applicable. Also many of the categories you have nominated are located in countries with more substantial Catholic populations, such as France, Germany, etc. And lastly saying that there has to be a substantial population of religion X to have articles of building X is a poor argument. Anglicans make up a rather small percentage of the total religious population of the United States, but we still have many articles on church buildings of the Anglican denomination because their articles tend to be notable. Inter&anthro (talk) 16:38, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
:::* This is really about the interpretation of WP:SMALLCAT. The way I understand it, which is confirmed by the example given, is that there should always be a substantive reason for growth: with a political office, other people will take that office for sure. Extrapolating this to churches in the nominated categories, a substantive reason for growth would be if every few years a new Catholic church is being built in the above cities - but that is not actually the case. Reversing the argument: if there would be no need to provide a substantive reason for growth, one could claim growth potential for really every category and WP:SMALLCAT would become a dead letter. Just numbers don't say anything, because they do not provide any insight in the degree of notability. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:04, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
:::* By the way, I didn't mean to say that there has to be a substantial population of religion X to have articles of building X; instead I meant to say that not having a substantial population is an obvious predictor for not having many notable buildings (not a perfect predictor, but an obvious predictor). Finally, I'm not sure I get your last point. If you mean Anglican including Episcopalian then a substantial part of the US population belongs to it, but if you mean Anglican excluding Episcopalian then there aren't many churches at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:04, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Support with no prejudice against re-creation if more articles are created. A few cities (Augsburg, Vancouver) are a bit surprising to be here, others should clearly be upmerged. power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Rename all to Catholic instead of Roman Catholic per the article Catholic Church.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:46, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. While many examples may look unpopulated at this time, the precision of the categories is helpful in many ways in many contexts. Luckily, it's free having categories that are helpful and might also be more used and populated with time. Also, support rename per {{u|Johnpacklambert}}. PPEMES (talk) 17:33, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support There's a high navigational cost of zig-zagging up and down a category tree to find article in under-populated categories. No objection to recreating any if they ever get up to 5 or so articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 04:23, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Category:Bhutan Peace and Prosperity Party politicians ==
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:The result of the discussion was: keep. For reference, the move discussion resulted in no consensus to rename the article. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:20, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Bhutan Peace and Prosperity Party politicians to :Category:Druk Phuensum Tshogpa politicians
:Nominator's rationale: WP:OFFICIALNAME. [http://www.dpt.bt/ Druk Phuensum Tshogpa] — Bukhari (Talk!) 07:52, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Comment/question, names of political parties are being translated to English by default. Why would this be an exception? Marcocapelle (talk) 08:14, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- :{{Comment}}, {{ping|Marcocapelle}} WP:OFFICIALNAME is not usually enough to justify a move. Druk Phuensum Tshogpa is a WP:COMMONNAME.— Bukhari (Talk!) 05:18, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
:* It's the other way around, right? Druk Phuensum Tshogpa being the official name, the English translation being the common name. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:31, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
::*{{ping|Marcocapelle}} Can give me the sources about common usage of Bhutan Peace and Prosperity Party?— Bukhari (Talk!) 05:54, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
:::* For example [https://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/en/NewsDetail/index/5/15003/Will-a-Political-Upset-in-Bhutan-Work-to-Chinas-Advantage here]. The fact that an abbreviation is being added for Druk Phuensum Tshogpa also indicates that Druk Phuensum Tshogpa is the official name. Anyway there would be no point in using another common name in English if Bhutan Peace and Prosperity Party (as an English name) would have been the official name. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:49, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
::::* {{ping|Marcocapelle}} Druk Phuensum Tshogpa is the common name. Most of the newspapers use Druk Phuensum Tshogpa (DPT). See my comment [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bhutan_Peace_and_Prosperity_Party&diff=874742712 here]. Thanks— Bukhari (Talk!) 08:09, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::* Let's await the result of the RM on Bhutan Peace and Prosperity Party then. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:13, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose The article still uses the English name. This is an English-lanaguage publication, and a few hundred books have been printed that use the English name. Wikipedia does not follow official names.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:49, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Category:Flora of the Mediterranean ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 17:17, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Flora of the Mediterranean to :Category:Flora of the Mediterranean Basin
:* Propose renaming :Category:Fauna of the Mediterranean to :Category:Fauna of the Mediterranean Basin
:* Propose renaming :Category:Biota of the Mediterranean to :Category:Biota of the Mediterranean Basin
:Nominator's rationale: To clarify the scope of these categories (Mediterranean redirects to Mediterranean Sea, but the text of these categories states that they are about the wider region).
:Note: Deletion (with some upmerging) could also be considered as most of the articles in these categories are well categorized by continent/sea and other categories (e.g. :Category:Plants of Mediterranean climate). This applies especially to the flora category as this region is not in the relevant wikiproject's scheme. Note: Currently this is such a mess that, for example, Chamois is (via intermediate categories) in :Category:Marine organisms.
:Note: The creator of the flora category has been blocked for category-related disruption. DexDor (talk) 05:27, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
::I'd prefer delete to rename (mainly as this region isn't clearly defined and overlaps other regions). Of the subcats/articles I've looked at none would need an upmerge. DexDor (talk) 22:01, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
::Note: If the categories are deleted then a note should be placed at :Category:Environment of the Mediterranean along the lines of "For articles about organisms native to the Mediterranean Basin see :Category:Biota of Europe ...". DexDor (talk) 19:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Categories do not follow WGSRPD, and are causing more harm than good. I think the best thing is to delete. —hike395 (talk) 09:46, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete, at least for Flora; as noted by {{U|Hike395}}, this category does not follow the WGSRPD which is used for plant distributions. I don't know whether the Fauna category is of any value; if it is, I agree that the nominator's suggested name is better. Peter coxhead (talk) 16:49, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Comment: The contents of the Fauna category belong mostly to the now-reinstated :Category:Fauna of the Mediterranean Sea. Micromesistius (talk) 00:34, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
::I've now moved many of the articles down. DexDor (talk) 19:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete the Flora category as it does not follow the WGSRPD category scheme used for plant distributions. Declangi (talk) 04:50, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Flora of the Mediterranean per WikiProject Plants recommendations for geographic distribution categories. Also agree that Mediterranean Basin would be a better name for a fauna category if that is retained –Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 15:50, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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== Category:Inter Wehnen players ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 20:03, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Inter Wehnen players}}
:Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary as there is only one entry (Aleksei Spasskov), there is no article for Inter Wehnen/FC Inter Wehnen, and there is little evidence this club exists. The club information on Aleksei Spasskov is also unsourced. S.A. Julio (talk) 05:26, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Comment by creator. I created this only to fill a redlink in Special:WantedCategories. Now that the massive backlog at SWC has been clearly, I devote a little more time to scrutinising such cats, and I might not have created this one if I had done so. So I am happy to accept the nominator's assessment. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:30, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
:Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. S.A. Julio (talk) 05:38, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 10:26, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The category only has one player in it and the club doesn't even have an article on Wikipedia. Ben5218 (talk) 21:00, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
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