Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 March 25#Category:Tatar topics

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to parent categories (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:38, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|Hungarian actors in gay pornographic films}}

:Nominator's rationale: Over categorisation. Only 1 page links here. Spartaz ^Humbug! 20:03, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - Not seeing the use for one category for one article, The article can be put in a main category (or not one at all). –Davey2010^Talk 03:43, 27 March 2018‎

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:The result of the discussion was: relisted, see here (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:46, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Player progress tracking in video games to :Category:Video game gameplay

:Nominator's rationale: Is it me or does this category seem kind of arbitrary? Achievements and ingame score are two totally different types of progress. It also has an issue with potentially being too small for a category per WP:SMALLCAT. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 16:36, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

:Oppose - I feel it should be a sub-cat of Video Game Gameplay (Which probably needs a new name); as you're right. However, I don't agree it's arbitrary. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:22, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: relisted at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 April 13#Category:Tatar_topics. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:37, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

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:* Propose renaming :Category:Tatar topics to :Category:Tatars

:* Propose merging :Category:Tatar peoples to :Category:Tatars

:Nominator's rationale: rename per main article Tatars and merge because having a separate :Category:Tatar peoples next to :Category:Tatars would be merely confusing and the amount of content in both categories is fairly limited anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:41, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

• Keep - this was a rename at cfd. The point is that :Category:Tatars should be (by convention) a list category and :Category:Tatar topics is a topic category. Oculi (talk) 14:48, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

::That rename was a CFD in 2008 with very limited participation and things have changed since then (e.g. a category referred to in that discussion has since been deleted/renamed). DexDor ^(talk) 08:36, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

• Keep both -- One is about ethnic groups. The other about wider topics. These are different. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:59, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
• None of the sibling categories in :Category:Ethnic groups in Russia has a "topics" in the name, why would this one be an exception? Marcocapelle (talk) 19:51, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

::I an not wedded to the name if you can suggest a better one. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:43, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

::* As nominated, :Category:Tatars. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:52, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:47, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

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:* Propose renaming :Category:Tomb Raider series to :Category:Tomb Raider video games

:Nominator's rationale: More accurate description of what is in the category. Was moved here by accident a while back, then reverted, but I think "games" is more WP:CONSISTENT. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 08:56, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose Other articles in :Category:Video game franchises use the disambiguation "series", not "games". Dimadick (talk) 10:39, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
• {{ping|Dimadick}}The franchise already HAS a category, :Category:Tomb Raider. This is SOLELY for the games within the franchise as many other franchise categories have._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 10:55, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
• Comment I already know that, but I can not find an article which uses "game" as a disambiguation. Dimadick (talk) 11:40, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
• {{ping|Dimadick}}There are many similar categories, like :Category:Diablo video games, :Category:Dead or Alive (series) video games, :Category:Final Fantasy video games, just to name a few. Perhaps it should be moved to :Category:Tomb Raider video games then, that was an oversight on my part. I have changed the nomination accordingly._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 08:41, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep as a parent category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

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:* Propose splitting :Category:Monsters to :Category:Mythological monsters and :Category:Fictional monsters

:Nominator's rationale: This category is supposedly a subset of :Category:Legendary creatures, meaning it's supposed to only contain monsters from mythology and legend. However, a large number of articles in it are actually from popular culture, fantasy and folklore. I think splitting it would solve the problem, with :Category:Fictional monsters becoming a subcategory of :Category:Fictional life forms instead. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 08:53, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

• Support as proposed. 91.124.117.29 (talk) 01:28, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

• Relisting comment, I had closed this discussion and split the category as far as I could, but the remaining articles belong in neither :Category:Mythological monsters nor in :Category:Fictional monsters and the subcategory :Category:Monsters in fiction contains articles and subcategories that may fit in either :Category:Mythological monsters or in :Category:Fictional monsters, so we are a bit stuck here. I am reopening the discussion and would suggest to leave the category alone in its current shape. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:10, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
• Comment In several cases, the fictional works are adaptations of older mythologies, urban legends, etc. The difference is not that clear-cut. Dimadick (talk) 16:16, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
• {{ping|Zxcvbnm|91.124.117.29}} pinging earlier participants of discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:10, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
• Marcocapelle, I agree with leaving it in its current state and keeping this category as a (largely depopulated) parent of the mythology and fictional categories - I'll admit it's a dubious category name, but - other than double-catting those remaining articles - it would be the most logical place for them. Grutness...wha? 02:04, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
• Marcocapelle, I also agree with leaving {{cat|Monsters}} in its current state and keeping this category as a parent. 91.124.117.29 (talk) 00:12, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete (WP:NAC). --DexDor ^(talk) 07:37, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

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:* Propose deleting {{Lc|List of 'Star Wars' Characters}}

:Nominator's rationale: Newly created, not a proper category — TAnthony^Talk 04:44, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

• Remove This has been set up as a redirect to a list article, but that does not work. We already have :Category:Star Wars characters and so not need this. I am not suggesting keeping as a category-redirect to that, as it is not a likely search term. However the list article might make a good main article for the existing category. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:04, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
• either delete or rename to {{cl|Lists of Star Wars characters}} (plural, decapped, and dequoted) iff there are other lists which fit the category. Grutness...wha? 02:07, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
• Delete Just seems to be created in error. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 00:17, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

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