Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 11

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 10:17, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose merge :Category:Arzanene‎ to :Category:Provinces of the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) and :Category:History of Batman Province

:* Propose merge :Category:Ayrarat‎ to :Category:Provinces of the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity), :Category:History of Ağrı Province‎ and :Category:History of Kars Province

:* Propose merge :Category:Corduene to :Category:Provinces of the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) and :Category:History of Şırnak Province and :Category:History of Kurdistan

:* Propose merge :Category:Moxoene‎ to :Category:Provinces of the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) and :Category:History of Van Province

:* Propose merge :Category:Paytakaran‎ to :Category:Provinces of the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) and :Category:Ancient history of Azerbaijan

:* Propose merge :Category:Syunik‎ to :Category:Provinces of the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) and :Category:History of the Republic of Artsakh

:* Propose merge :Category:Tayk‎ to :Category:Provinces of the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) and :Category:History of Artvin Province and :Category:History of Erzurum Province

:* Propose merge :Category:Turuberan to :Category:Provinces of the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) and :Category:History of Muş Province

:* Propose merge :Category:Upper Armenia to :Category:Provinces of the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) and :Category:History of Erzincan Province

:* Propose selective merge :Category:Gugark‎ to :Category:Provinces of the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) and :Category:History of Ardahan Province

:* Propose selective merge :Category:Nor Shirakan to :Category:Provinces of the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) and :Category:History of West Azerbaijan Province

:* Propose selective merge :Category:Utik‎ to :Category:Provinces of the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) and :Category:Ancient history of Azerbaijan

:Nominator's rationale: merge eponymous articles, then delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Most of these categories only contain an eponymous article and it is pretty unlikely that these categories would quickly expand to a viable size. It is actually surprising that we have so much detail with regard to the subdivisions (including, incidentally, a list of cantons) of a relatively unknown ancient kingdom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:30, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

• Support all. What about :Category:Eastern Anatolia Region as a second target for :Category:Ayrarat‎? Seems to straddle too many small provinces otherwise. Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:52, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

:* :Category:Eastern Anatolia Region would not be appropriate, since that a region in Turkey. The provinces are of the Republic of Armenia. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:31, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

::*What has the ancient region got to do with the modern Republic? There is more of Ayrarat in Turkey than in Armenia. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:34, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

:::* Sure but the ancient province of Ayrararat covered the current Republic of Armenia, or at least a pretty large part of it. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

:::: I've just come to realize that :Category:History of Ağrı Province‎ and :Category:History of Kars Province are part of the tree of :Category:Eastern Anatolia Region so that is covered now. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:24, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

::::*Grand so. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:08, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

• Comment: {{ping|Marcocapelle|Laurel Lodged}} some of the interwikis show that there is scope for expansion with "People from…", e.g. :pt:Categoria:Arzanena contains multiple biographies that do have English Wikipedia equivalents (Bessas (general), Philippicus (general), Patricius (consul 500), Komitas Aghtsetsi…). – Fayenatic London 11:12, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

:* {{ping|Fayenatic london}} Reply in three parts: 1. Your suggestion seems to be a call for creating :Category:People from Arzanene‎ rather than for keeping :Category:Arzanene‎. 2. The four people that you mention were living in a period that the Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) no longer existed so categorization in a province of that kingdom would be at least problematic. 3. Even it would not be problematic for that reason, there would still be a WP:NONDEF issue. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:17, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

::*{{ping|Marcocapelle}} Thanks, that clears that up. – Fayenatic London 10:16, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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:The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.