Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 26

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:36, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose merging :Category:Buildings and structures in Duitama to :Category:Buildings and structures in Boyacá Department and :Category:Duitama

:Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only 1 building article in this category in a small city which is primarily notable for historical reasons. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:20, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Oppose Duitama may be a "small city" to some standards, but is the third biggest city in Boyacá. The fact the category is not filled with more buildings does not make the category by itself obsolete. There is the UPTC which has a building in Duitama and more notable buildings, such as the regional bus station. I agree there needs to be more added to the category, but not that the category itself is not notable (enough). Tisquesusa (talk) 21:24, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

:* The third city of a province of just over 1 million people is not that impressive. And besides it is not just the category, also the article Duitama is lacking sources about potentially notable buildings. A bus station is seldom notable, there are not enough articles about them in Colombia to populate a :Category:Bus stations in Colombia. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:37, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:12, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Buildings and structures in Chleby to :Category:Nymburk District and :Category:Buildings and structures in the Central Bohemian Region‎

:Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, Chleby is a small village, :Category:Chleby does not even exist. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:11, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

::Agree I was the one who created the category, but I do understand it makes sense to merge, no problem. Dan Koehl (talk) 22:35, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. - Darwinek (talk) 22:43, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:33, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose renaming :Category:Phones with dual rear cameras to :Category:Phones with multiple rear cameras

:Nominator's rationale: Thanks to various OEMs, we now have triple cameras, if not more, on some phones. Yet the category title suggests that only phones with 2 may be included. ViperSnake151  Talk  17:07, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

• Agree I was the one who created the category, and was about to propose the exact same renaming a couple of days ago. --uKER (talk) 17:19, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:14, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Terrorist incidents attributed to Islamic extremism to :Category:Islamic terrorist incidents

:Nominator's rationale: Clearly duplicate. wumbolo ^^^ 14:34, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

• Merge per nom Same scope, and it is unclear to me what "extremism" indicates here. Dimadick (talk) 14:38, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:30, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose renaming :Category:Sexuality books to :Category:Sexuality-related books (OR ??? - perhaps something along the lines of "Books about sex-related topics")

:Nominator's rationale: Needs a broader name for clarity on scope of category. At first glance I thought I had found another pair of duplicate book categories. But then I saw that *this* one is the parent to :Category:Books about sexuality, along with a range of other subcats for books dealing with a variety of sexuality-related topics. I am entirely open to a different name if somebody comes up with something better. Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:57, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

• Why not simply downmerge to :Category:Books about sexuality? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:37, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
• :I was pretty sure I had explained why merging these 2 categories did not make sense -- in contrast to the pair of categories for Books about education (below). Take a good look at all of those subcats, and you will see that there needs to be an umbrella/parent category. The only real question is what name it should have. The current name is just too close to :Category:Books about sexuality for readers and editors to be able to grasp the distinction. Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:55, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

::* The distinction is not clear to me, sorry. And using "-related" does not help, that is simply too vague. By what criteria would you say that an article in the parent category does not fit the narrower category? Marcocapelle (talk) 18:21, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

:::*It's all about the subcategories. As I said above, if it was merely a case of duplicate categories (like the pair for "Books about education") it would just need a simple merge -- transferring the articles from one category into the other. But that is NOT the case here.

::::No doubt some of the articles currently in :Category:Sexuality books can/should be moved into :Category:Books about sexuality. But others should be moved into one of the other subcats. And that array of subcategories needs to have a properly named umbrella/parent category. They are all for books about topics/issues that are related to sexuality -- but they are NOT "Books about sexuality" per se. So Downmerging the entire :Category:Sexuality books into :Category:Books about sexuality would leave all of those subcats dangling, without a parent category grouping them together. Anomalous+0 (talk) 07:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

::::* Whether articles or subcategories, the question remains the same: by what criteria would, for example, :Category:Books about orgasm‎ and :Category:Books about rape‎ not fit as subcategories of :Category:Books about sexuality? Note that :Category:Orgasm and :Category:Rape are likewise part of the tree of :Category:Sexuality. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:38, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

• Its not necessary to have a properly named umbrella/parent category for subcategories. Rathfelder (talk) 09:38, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
• I am working on a revised proposal, hope to have it later today. Anomalous+0 (talk) 13:03, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:14, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Education books to :Category:Books about education

:Nominator's rationale: These are duplicate categories. "Books about XYZ" is the prevailing formulation and is better grammatically. (Probably wise to leave it as a category redirect page.) Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:53, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support Clearly same category. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:55, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
• Support, as above. Bondegezou (talk) 10:23, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:26, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose deleting {{lc|RedJet Records}}

:Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category for a record label with only one musical act populating it. The artist is not mentioned in the article for the label and the label isn't mentioned in the artist's article, so probably not a particularly defining trait. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 00:57, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 00:15, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose Deleting :Category:Conspicuous Service Cross (New York) recipients

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OVERLAPCAT and WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)

:The Conspicuous Service Cross (New York) is automatically given to any New York residents who receive the Medal of Honor, the Distinguished Flying Cross (United States) and 20 other federal medals. It is also automatically awarded to all New York residents involved in Pearl Harbor, the D Day landing, or who were declared missing in action, or were killed in action. These underlying reasons may be defining; automatically receiving this award as a thank you fron New York is not. This is one of the rare instances where I don't favor listifying since the awared would be too common. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:06, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Bondegezou (talk) 10:22, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:53, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose Deleting :Category:Arena Football Hall of Fame

:* Propose Deleting :Category:Canadian Music Hall of Fame

:* Propose Deleting :Category:English Football Hall of Fame

:* Propose Deleting :Category:World Golf Hall of Fame

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT

:This nomination is just for the museum/organization parent categories, not for the inductees subcategories: :Category:Arena Football Hall of Fame inductees, :Category:Canadian Music Hall of Fame inductees, :Category:English Football Hall of Fame inductees & :Category:World Golf Hall of Fame respectively. Each nominated category contains only that subcategory plus the main article (Arena Football Hall of Fame, Canadian Music Hall of Fame, English Football Hall of Fame, World Golf Hall of Fame) and I see little to no room for future growth. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:06, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 08:52, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

• Keep - serves as 'parent' cat for the inductee subcat. GiantSnowman 08:54, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
• @GiantSnowman they are un-needed parent categories. With only two pages, they serve no purpose other than adding an extra layer to navigation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:39, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

::: Do you see any growth potential for any of these categories?RevelationDirect (talk) 23:39, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

• Upmerge to parents. The nominator is right that these categories are a pointless layer, and fail WP:SMALLCAT ... but if they are deleted, some pages will be removed from relevant categories. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:31, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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