Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 5

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:The result of the discussion was: merge all. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 02:34, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

:Propose merging:

:* :Category:1870s films by year to :Category:1870s films

:* :Category:1880s films by year to :Category:1880s films

:* :Category:1890s films by year to :Category:1890s films

:* :Category:1900s films by year to :Category:1900s films

:* :Category:1910s films by year to :Category:1910s films

:* :Category:1920s films by year to :Category:1920s films

:* :Category:1930s films by year to :Category:1930s films

:* :Category:1940s films by year to :Category:1940s films

:* :Category:1950s films by year to :Category:1950s films

:* :Category:1960s films by year to :Category:1960s films

:* :Category:1970s films by year to :Category:1970s films

:* :Category:1980s films by year to :Category:1980s films

:* :Category:1990s films by year to :Category:1990s films

:* :Category:2000s films by year to :Category:2000s films

:* :Category:2010s films by year to :Category:2010s films

:* :Category:2020s films by year to :Category:2020s films

:Nominator's rationale: Pointless category layer. In each case, the only parent category is the merge target listed above.

:Each "Cat:YYY0s films by year" can only ever contain ten category pages. e.g. :Category:1950s films by year can only ever contain :Category:1950 films, :Category:1951 films ... :Category:1959 films.

:The only case I can see for keeping these categories would be if it helped organise the parent decade category, but it doesn't. The largest "Category:YYY0s films" is :Category:2010s films, which currently has 54 subcats. Adding a further nine subcats (i.e. one per each of the tens year, minus the deleted container) won't overload :Category:2010s films, and the years will sort neatly at the start of the list. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:21, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Tagging: Categories all tagged.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=201903051831&limit=16&contribs=user&target=BrownHairedGirl&namespace=14&tagfilter=&start=&end=] --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:33, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
• Notifications: WikiProject Film has been notified[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film&diff=886344961&oldid=886332009]. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:38, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
• Series creator Coder Dan has been notified[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Coder_Dan&diff=886345855&oldid=886337839]. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:45, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

:Contributor's rationale: The point of decade-by-year categories and their navigation templates is to help users do historical surveys. —Coder Dan (talk) 20:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

::@Coder Dan, how is that aided by a decade-by-year category rather than just a decade category?

::For example, how does :Category:1900s films by year help historical surveys in a way which cannot be done (or not done as well) by :Category:1900s films. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:58, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete Un-needed layer. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:05, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. These categories have the same scope. Dimadick (talk) 13:51, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Davidson Media Group radio stations}}

:Nominator's rationale: It seems Davidson Media Group has no radio stations. --woodensuperman 16:20, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

:*Delete, as creator. Similar to the associated template, the company has sold off their stations over time. Mlaffs (talk) 01:18, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete. If the company has sold off its radio stations and no longer has any left to categorize, then the category is no longer necessary. Bearcat (talk) 15:11, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:35, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose deleting {{lc|Automobiles with hidden headlamps}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING category - type of headlamp is not a common way to categorize a car (such as classification or body style). Vossanova ^o< 14:41, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

:Creator's rationale: - I see what you're saying. My rebuttal though is that there are numerous other categories which group vehicles/cars with notable technical features or design elements and they seem to have proved themselves relevant. For instance "Automobiles with gull-wing doors", "Automobiles with backbone chassis", "Vehicles with four-wheel steering", "Vehicles with CVT transmission", and "Vehicles with wheel motors". Many of those articles have been around for over 10 years (since 2008), and even the newest created, "Vehicles with backbone chassis" has been around for 2 years and so have proved to have staying power. They all tackle niche, yet notable features, gull-wing doors, four-wheel steering, CVT transmissions, etc, that don't fit into a common categorization (classification, body style) and that people are likely to be interested in. I see no reason why hidden headlamps wouldn't be at least as relevant, if not possibly more, than those features. Thank you for your consideration. TKOIII (talk) 15:25, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

::WP:OSE. DexDor ^(talk) 21:47, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

::Understandable, but other design features, like type of door, shouldn't really be categorized as well, for the same non-defining reason. I would instead suggest such categories be converted/merged into lists (see WP:CPN). --Vossanova ^o< 16:46, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete per nom before we get categories for things like cars with retractable radio aerials, cars whose boot/trunk can be unlocked from the dashboard etc. DexDor ^(talk) 21:47, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:02, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose deleting {{lc|Charlotte Rampling}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON --woodensuperman 14:32, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Lena Headey}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON --woodensuperman 14:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete Main article and filmography with little room for growth. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:57, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Emilia Clarke}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON --woodensuperman 14:26, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete Main article and list of awards, with little room for growth. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:56, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:04, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peter Cook}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON --woodensuperman 13:15, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

:Actually, I think I could withdraw this one, as I've just added Derek and Clive, Pete and Dud, Not Only But Always and Pete and Dud: Come Again, two of which are characters he co-created, the other two are works about him (and Dudley Moore). --woodensuperman 14:10, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Alan Davis}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON --woodensuperman 13:11, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete Main article and a character subcategory with little room for growth. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:55, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 17:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|W. Somerset Maugham}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON --woodensuperman 12:54, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Keep - here there are dozens of articles and 6 subcats in the 'works' subcat (should :Category:Adaptations of works by W. Somerset Maugham be in :Category:Works by W. Somerset Maugham?). There needs to be some general extra discussion on circumstances when an eponymous category is justifiable. Oculi (talk) 10:03, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

::We don't need an eponymous category that only contains a works category. The dozens of articles and subcats are correctly in the works tree, this does not add anything. --woodensuperman 09:15, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

::: It adds a substantial category to :Category:Wikipedia categories named after English writers. Oculi (talk) 16:37, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

::::By that reckoning, everyone with works in :Category:Works by English writers should have an eponymous categories, which is clearly against the spirit of WP:OCEPON. --woodensuperman 16:57, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete per nom and per WP:OCEPON. The categories are adequately interlinked; no need for this eponcat. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:03, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:06, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peter F. Hamilton}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON --woodensuperman 12:53, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete - not enough content to warrant a category, per WP:OCEPON --DannyS712 (talk) 19:44, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:04, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose deleting {{lc|Stephen Baxter}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON --woodensuperman 12:50, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete not enough content to warrant a category, per WP:OCEPON --DannyS712 (talk) 19:44, 16 March 2019 (UTC)----

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Roger Bacon}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON --woodensuperman 12:50, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete Main article and a works subcategory with little room for growth. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:52, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:50, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|James Turrell}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON --woodensuperman 12:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete Main article and a works subcategory with little room for growth. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:51, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Joan Mitchell}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON --woodensuperman 12:21, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete per nom.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Oculi (talk) 19:35, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
• Delete Main article and an image subcategory with little room for growth. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:50, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Nepalese architecture to :Category:Architecture of Nepal

:Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 January 12#Architecture by country. Paul_012 (talk) 10:03, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support Pointless Russian doll. Johnbod (talk) 16:34, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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