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== Category:Voroshilovgrad/Lugansk locomotives ==

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== Category:Cricket in Sri Lanka by province ==

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:01, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Cricket in Sri Lanka by province to :Category:Cricket in Sri Lanka by city

:Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content, the subcategories are by city instead by province. Also reparent to :Category:Sport in Sri Lanka by city instead of :Category:Sport in Sri Lanka by province. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:45, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:Films featuring anthropomorphic mice ==

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Animated films about mice. There is a rough consensus to rename to "Animated films about ..." something. In considering "mice and rats" or "rodents", I noted that {{Cat|Animated films about rats}} already exists and is separate from the categories about mice. So renaming to the mice option for now; users could propose that it be merged with {{Cat|Animated films about rats}} in a future nomination, because the parent category is a combined :Category:Films about mice and rats. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:03, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Films featuring anthropomorphic mice to :Category:Films about mice and rats

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category, per WP:NONDEF. One could argue that all films about mice have anthropomorphized them in some way, otherwise it would be a pure nature documentary, so it goes without saying. An alternate possibility could be renaming the category to :Category:Animated films about mice and rats and merging into it :Category:Animated films about rats, since all the movies in this category are also animated.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:01, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:China orchestras ==

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. There was good discussion and I feel that this was inching closer to a consensus. I would recommend a re-nomination in order to clarify the proposal that has been discussed. I think if the discussion was clearer on what the current proposal is it would attract more comments. Also, :Category:Chinese orchestras was not tagged with :Template:Cfr. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:08, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:China orchestras to :Category:Chinese orchestras

:* Propose renaming :Category:Chinese orchestras to :Category:Traditional chinese orchestras

:Nominator's rationale: Align :Category:China orchestras with {{cat| Orchestras by nationality}} (Western style symphony orchestras). Rename :Category:Chinese orchestras to :Category:Traditional chinese orchestras (Chinese orchestras). intforce (talk) 15:41, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

:*:Category:Chinese western-style orchestras would go against :Category:Orchestras by nationality though. intforce (talk) 21:47, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

::* That is correct. :Category:Traditional chinese orchestras would also go against it. It is not always feasible to remain entirely consistent. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:56, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

:::* As far as I can see, :Category:Traditional chinese orchestras would be a completely new category, independent to :Category:Orchestras by nationality. It would be something like :Category:String orchestras, where you don't distinct by country. :Category:Traditional chinese orchestras includes Chinese orchestras not only from China, but also from Singapore, Taiwan et cetera. Chinese orchestras (i.e. Orchestras from China) should not be confused with Chinese orchestras (orchestras using Chinese instruments). I agree this is somewhat confusing, hence the rename suggestion. intforce (talk) 22:10, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

:* :Category:Chinese orchestras as a supercategory instead of a dab page is fine with me as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

::* I like this, though I would prefer Chinese symphony orchestras instead of Chinese Western-style orchestras. New proposal thus:

::* Propose renaming :Category:China orchestras to :Category:Chinese symphony orchestras intforce (talk) 22:01, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:West Texas ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete :Category:West Texas, merge :Category:Baseball venues in West Texas to :Category:Baseball venues in Texas. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:59, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|West Texas}}

:Nominator's rationale: A subjective category, the article West Texas itself gives multiple definitions of this region and describes it as "loosely defined." Also nomination {{cl|Baseball venues in West Texas}}. User:Namiba 14:43, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:Asia Minor disaster ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922) leaving behind a category redirect. (non-admin closure) --Trialpears (talk) 22:12, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Asia Minor disaster to :Category:Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922)

:Nominator's rationale: The category definition of the nominated category states that "Asia Minor Catastrophe (Greek: Μικρασιατική Καταστροφή) is the Greek historiographical term for the Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922)." It appears, then, that it is a duplicate of the target category. We don't need a content fork here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:21, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Merge but leave redirect to prevent re-creation. I note that the main article is a redirect to the same target (as an article). Peterkingiron (talk) 18:18, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 17:54, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Merge the current category is a very clear case of POV-pushing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:17, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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== Category:Lemniscatic elliptic functions ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:57, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Lemniscatic elliptic functions to :Category:Elliptic functions

:Nominator's rationale: Contains only the main article and 9 redirects to that same article. Many of the redirects are synonymous with each other. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:58, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom, no need to merge either since the redirects all link to an article that is already in the same tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:31, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete as Marcocapelle's commentary is convincing. --Just N. (talk) 17:56, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:Recipients of the National Order of Madagascar ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:57, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose Deleting/Listifying :Category:Recipients of the National Order of Madagascar

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:PERFCAT and WP:OCAWARD)

:When foreign leaders visit Madagascar, or vice versa, the National Order of Madagascar is given out as souvenir to commemorate the visit. Mohammed VI of Morocco, Levi Eshkol and Anne Princess Royal are not remotely defined by this award. (There is one person in this category who is defined by their association with Madagascar, Romain Bruno Légaré, but his article only mentions the award in passing and is already well categorized.) The contents are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:06, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:Recipients of the Order of St. Alexander Nevsky ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:56, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose Deleting/Listifying :Category:Recipients of the Order of St. Alexander Nevsky

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:PERFCAT, WP:OCAWARD)

:According to the main article, the first time the imperial Russian Order of Saint Alexander Nevsky was issued was to 12 guests at the wedding of Grand Duchess Anna Petrovna of Russia and Charles Frederick, Duke of Holstein-Gottorp. Promises were made to take the award more seriously but it increasingly became a souvenir for diplomatic visits: George V, Haakon VII of Norway, Albert I of Belgium, Abbas II of Egypt and Charles X are not remotely defined by this award. Even among the many Russian recipients, the award does not seem defining and generally get a passing reference along with other honours. There wasn't a list so I created one right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:06, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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