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:The result of the discussion was: rename. bibliomaniac15 18:09, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Trauma and injuries to :Category:Trauma and injury templates

:Nominator's rationale: I don't regularly edit in category space so I just want to be sure. I have created this to hold trauma and injury templates, so I propose renaming to an appropriate title. Tom (LT) (talk) 23:49, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

• Rename per actual category content. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. bibliomaniac15 18:10, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Union Namur Fosses-La-Ville players to :Category:Union Royale Namur Fosses-La-Ville players

:Nominator's rationale: To match article Union Royale Namur Fosses-La-Ville. Not eligible for speedy renaming as I just corrected the page name without discussion. – Fayenatic London 21:15, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 08:33, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

• Support per nom. GiantSnowman 08:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: No consensus Timrollpickering (talk) 00:09, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Propose merging

:* :Category:Tamil-language television series to :Category:Indian television series (series go under countries, language is covered under :Category:Tamil-language television shows)

:* :Category:Tamil-language television series by decade to :Category:Indian television series by decade

:* :Category:1990s in Tamil-language television to :Category:1990s in Indian television

:* :Category:2000s in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2000s in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2010s in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2010s in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2020s in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2020s in Indian television‎

:* :Category:1990s Tamil-language television series to :Category:1990s Indian television series

:* :Category:2000s Tamil-language television series to :Category:2000s Indian television series

:* :Category:2010s Tamil-language television series to :Category:2010s Indian television series

:* :Category:2020s Tamil-language television series to :Category:2020s Indian television series

:* :Category:1990s Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:1990s Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:1990s Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:1990s Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2000s Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2000s Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2000s Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:2000s Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2010s Tamil-language television series debuts to :Category:2010s Indian television series debuts

:* :Category:2010s Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:2010s Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2020s Tamil-language television series debuts to :Category:2020s Indian television series debuts

:* :Category:2020s Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:2020s Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:1996 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:1996 in Indian television

:* :Category:1997 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:1997 in Indian television

:* :Category:1998 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:1998 in Indian television

:* :Category:1999 in Tamil-language television to :Category:1999 in Indian television

:* :Category:2000 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2000 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2001 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2001 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2002 in Tamil-language television to :Category:2002 in Indian television

:* :Category:2003 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2003 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2004 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2004 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2005 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2005 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2006 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2006 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2007 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2007 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2008 in Tamil-language television to :Category:2008 in Indian television

:* :Category:2009 in Tamil-language television to :Category:2009 in Indian television

:* :Category:2010 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2010 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2011 in Tamil-language television to :Category:2011 in Indian television

:* :Category:2012 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2012 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2013 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2013 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2014 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2014 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2015 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2015 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2016 in Tamil-language television to :Category:2016 in Indian television

:* :Category:2017 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2017 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2018 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2018 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2019 in Tamil-language television‎ to :Category:2019 in Indian television‎

:* :Category:2020 in Tamil-language television to :Category:2020 in Indian television

:* :Category:Tamil-language television seasons by year‎ to :Category:Indian television seasons by year‎

:* :Category:2006 Tamil-language television seasons‎ to :Category:2006 Indian television seasons‎

:* :Category:2008 Tamil-language television seasons‎ to :Category:2008 Indian television seasons‎

:* :Category:2009 Tamil-language television seasons to :Category:2009 Indian television seasons

:* :Category:2010 Tamil-language television seasons‎ to :Category:2010 Indian television seasons‎

:* :Category:2011 Tamil-language television seasons‎ to :Category:2011 Indian television seasons‎

:* :Category:2012 Tamil-language television seasons‎ to :Category:2012 Indian television seasons‎

:* :Category:2013 Tamil-language television seasons‎ to :Category:2013 Indian television seasons‎

:* :Category:2014 Tamil-language television seasons‎ to :Category:2014 Indian television seasons‎

:* :Category:2015 Tamil-language television seasons‎ to :Category:2015 Indian television seasons‎

:* :Category:2016 Tamil-language television seasons‎ to :Category:2016 Indian television seasons‎

:* :Category:2017 Tamil-language television seasons to :Category:2017 Indian television seasons

:* :Category:2018 Tamil-language television seasons to :Category:2018 Indian television seasons

:* :Category:2019 Tamil-language television seasons‎ to :Category:2019 Indian television seasons‎

:* :Category:2020 Tamil-language television seasons to :Category:2020 Indian television seasons

:* :Category:Tamil-language television series debuts by year‎ to :Category:Indian television series debuts by year

:* :Category:1996 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:1996 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:1997 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:1997 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:1999 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:1999 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2000 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2000 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2001 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2001 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2002 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2002 Indian television series debuts

:* :Category:2003 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2003 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2004 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2004 Indian television series debuts

:* :Category:2005 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2005 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2006 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2006 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2007 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2007 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2008 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2008 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2009 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2009 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2010 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2010 Indian television series debuts

:* :Category:2011 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2011 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2012 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2012 Indian television series debuts

:* :Category:2013 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2013 Indian television series debuts

:* :Category:2014 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2014 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2015 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2015 Indian television series debuts

:* :Category:2016 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2016 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2017 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2017 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2018 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2018 Indian television series debuts‎

:* :Category:2019 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2019 Indian television series debuts

:* :Category:2020 Tamil-language television series debuts‎ to :Category:2020 Indian television series debuts

:* :Category:Tamil-language television series endings by year‎ to :Category:Indian television series endings by year

:* :Category:1998 Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:1998 Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:1999 Tamil-language television series endings‎‎ to :Category:1999 Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2001 Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:2001 Indian television series endings

:* :Category:2002 Tamil-language television series endings‎‎ to :Category:2002 Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2003 Tamil-language television series endings‎‎ to :Category:2003 Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2004 Tamil-language television series endings‎‎ to :Category:2004 Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2005 Tamil-language television series endings‎‎ to :Category:2005 Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2006 Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:2006 Indian television series endings

:* :Category:2007 Tamil-language television series endings‎‎ to :Category:2007 Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2008 Tamil-language television series endings‎‎ to :Category:2008 Indian television series endings‎‎

:* :Category:2009 Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:2009 Indian television series endings

:* :Category:2010 Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:2010 Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2011 Tamil-language television series endings‎‎ to :Category:2011 Indian television series endings‎‎

:* :Category:2012 Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:2012 Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2013 Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:2013 Indian television series endings

:* :Category:2014 Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:2014 Indian television series endings

:* :Category:2015 Tamil-language television series endings‎‎ to :Category:2015 Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2016 Tamil-language television series endings‎‎ to :Category:2016 Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2017 Tamil-language television series endings‎‎ to :Category:2017 Indian television series endings‎‎

:* :Category:2018 Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:2018 Indian television series endings‎

:* :Category:2019 Tamil-language television series endings‎ to :Category:2019 Indian television series endings

:* :Category:2020 Tamil-language television series endings‎‎ to :Category:2020 Indian television series endings‎‎

:* :Category:Tamil-language television-related lists to :Category:Indian television-related lists

:* :Category:Lists of Tamil-language television series‎ to :Category:Lists of Indian television series‎

:* :Category:Tamil-language television series by channel to :Category:Indian television series by channel

:* :Category:Tamil-language television awards‎ to :Category:Indian television awards‎

:* :Category:Tamil-language television series by genre‎ to :Category:Indian television series by genre

:* :Category:Tamil children's television series to :Category:Indian children's television series

:* :Category:Tamil comedy television series to :Category:Indian comedy television series

:* :Category:Tamil cooking television series to :Category:Indian cooking television series

:* :Category:Tamil crime television series to :Category:Indian crime television series

:* :Category:Tamil dance television shows to :Category:Indian dance television shows

:* :Category:Tamil fantasy television series to :Category:Indian fantasy television series

:* :Category:Tamil game shows to :Category:Indian game shows

:* :Category:Tamil historical television series to :Category:Indian historical television series

:* :Category:Tamil horror fiction television series to :Category:Indian horror fiction television series

:* :Category:Tamil legal television series to :Category:Indian legal television series

:* :Category:Tamil martial arts television series to :Category:Martial arts television series

:* :Category:Tamil medical television series to :Category:Indian medical television series

:* :Category:Tamil-language television miniseries to :Category:Indian television miniseries

:* :Category:Tamil musical television series to :Category:Indian musical television series

:* :Category:Tamil mystery television series to :Category:Indian mystery television series

:* :Category:Tamil mythology soap operas to :Category:Indian mythological television series

:* :Category:Tamil police television series to :Category:Police procedural television series

:* :Category:Tamil quiz shows to :Category:Quiz shows

:* :Category:Tamil reality television series to :Category:Indian reality television series

:* :Category:Tamil romance television series to :Category:Indian romance television series

:* :Category:Tamil Singing talent shows to :Category:Singing talent shows

:* :Category:Tamil sports television series to :Category:Indian sports television series

:* :Category:Tamil suspense television series to :Category:Suspense television series

:* :Category:Tamil talk shows to :Category:Indian talk shows

:* :Category:Tamil thriller television series to :Category:Indian thriller television series

:* :Category:Tamil travel shows to :Category:Indian travel television series‎

:* :Category:Tamil-language television soap operas to :Category:Indian television soap operas

:* :Category:21st-century Tamil male actors‎ to :Category:21st-century Indian male actors‎

:* :Category:Tamil television presenters to :Category:Indian television presenters

:* :Category:Tamil male television actors to :Category:Indian male television actors

Propose deleting

{{lc|Tamil-language television by year}}
{{lc|Tamil-language television by decade}}
{{lc|Tamil school television series}}
{{lc|Tamil teen television series}}

And all of their subcats (please tell if I have to list them). Gotitbro (talk) 21:06, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

I have listed all the subcats that need to be merged or deleted as guided by Marcocapelle below. Gotitbro (talk) 11:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

:Nominator's rationale: Non-standard categories for language television which are otherwise classified under countries of origin. These cats were created by a sock whose master created many such cats and ethnic/regional POVPUSH edits including replacing regions for countries in infoboxes which is the same pattern seen here in these cats. Gotitbro (talk) 20:52, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

:I have updated this with all subcats that need to be merged (then deleted etc). The cats that need to be merged then deleted are the ones that are classified under the country of origin or similar. The ones to be deleted have no standard counterparts in other ethnic/lang cats. Gotitbro (talk) 11:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

::Also inviting {{u|Cyphoidbomb}}, who initially dealt with the sockpuppet, for comments. Gotitbro (talk) 21:06, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Gotitbro}} Thanks for the ping. I'm not too familiar with category stuff, but I wonder if some of them might be valid. We do have :Category:English-language television shows, and :Category:Telugu-language films, so they might not all be bad. But some of them are a bit weird, like :Category:Tamil male television actors, if Tamil is both a language and an ethnolinguistic identity, are we saying that these male television actors speak Tamil or that we are identifying them as ethnically Tamil? Seems like it could be an overrreach. Since the user had major competency issues, anything that is ambiguous or seems like an overreach should potentially be deleted. I've been cleaning up after this dude for years and he still makes idiotic changes ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uyire_(TV_series)&diff=966564568&oldid=966372161 editing while logged-out], of course...) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:00, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

::::Yes, we do have cats for other languages but not in this way and certainly not that disruptive with the language. The cats I have listed above are not supposed to be under the language label but the country of origin for example :Category:Indian television series by decade, :Category:Indian television-related lists, :Category:Indian television awards and so on, the sockpuppeteer wanted to bypass these cats so he created these POVPUSH disruptive cats just as with his edits in infoboxes and others spaces (also take a look at another Indian TV lang cat for example :Category:Hindi-language television on how these cats are supposed to be).

• Procedural oppose, subcategories need to be listed as well; all nominated categories should be tagged (see WP:CFD for instructions); in many cases a merge may be more appropriate than deletion. It would be advisable yo withdraw the nomination as is and to take a bit more time for preparing a fresh improved proposal. Marcocapelle (talk) 01:32, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

::{{re|Marcocapelle}} I have updated the nom with further classification into merge/delete rationales. The subcats under :Category:Tamil-language television series by genre‎ have already been nominated for renaming I left a note at the discussion there, do tell if I need to add further tag these with a CFD to here. PS: It was very tiring to do this manually is there any way to automate multiple cat tagging for CFD and listing? Gotitbro (talk) 11:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

::: You are fast! Earlier I suggested to withdraw because I assumed fixing all of it would take you another week. Yes I know it is very tiring. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:49, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

• Generally support for consistency, for other languages we do also not have a complete tree as if this concerns a nationality. Two questions though. First, is it possible that there are any Sri Lankan shows in these categories that should not be merged to Indian categories? If that is the case I hope that someone with experience in WP:AWB can help out with the actual implementation of the proposal. (That is not an issue for you, but for the closer of this discussion.) And second question, shouldn't e.g. :Category:1990s Tamil-language television series also be merged to :Category:Tamil-language television shows as a second merge target? Marcocapelle (talk) 15:57, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
• Comments - surely Tamil-language TV will include Sri Lanka (and maybe elsewhere), so it is not appropriate to upmerge (and Indian TV should be renamed too, per :Category:Television in India). Moreover some of these were created by Gjs238 or Le Deluge, editors in good standing AFAIK (eg see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:2000s_Tamil-language_television_series_debuts&action=history history]). I can't offhand see any reason why an editor should refrain from creating and populating :Category:Tamil-language television series as a subcat of :Category:Tamil-language television shows. Oculi (talk) 16:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
• Further, Tamil people are not necessarily Indian. Eg Puravalan Narayanasamy is Singaporean. List of Tamil-language television channels includes India, Sri Lanka, Singapore, Canada and Malaysia. This nom is seriously flawed. Oculi (talk) 16:32, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

::Almost all of these television series are from India with barely any from elsewhere (I haven't actually noticed series from others in these cats TBH, Singapore ones are already under :Category:Singapore Tamil dramas). I'll try and cleanup any categorization errors that arise after implementation. These non-standard categories were created by a heavily ethnic/regional POVPUSHing sockpuppet who created a whole host of cat trees to legitimize them and I can see why other users might have added to them. These cats are non-standard for television series, languages and keeping them is only pandering to the sockmaster who is still going strong as noted by Cyphoidbomb above as well. Gotitbro (talk) 17:21, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose for now Whilst I agree that there is a lot of over-categorisation and there is room for rationalisation, there two sticking points. Firstly, as stated by others, there are Tamil-language TV stations in several countries outside India and some of the nominated categories may contain articles which aren't Indian. The nominator will have to go through each of the nominated categories to ensure we don't end up with mis-categorisation. Secondly, most of the categories are child/grand-child categories of :Category:Tamil-language television shows, which is a valid category as it is a child category of :Category:Television shows by language. If the nominated categories are to be deleted then their contents should also be merged into :Category:Tamil-language television shows as well.--Obi2canibe (talk) 13:37, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose -- India is a vast country with many languages. Hindi is the principal language in the north, but Tamil belongs to a completely different linguistic group. Merging Tamil-language TV with Indian is as nonsensical as if one merged English with Arabic. There may well be room for rationalisation but this nom is completely the wrong solution. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:44, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose. Language is a WP:DEFINING characteristic of television shows, so we should have more such category trees. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose India is a nation with seven Big Brother versions and nine Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? versions, all split by language. So there is a clear need to adopt more defining criteria like language in this case. Although I don't disagree that there is room for rationalization. --Ab207 (talk) 15:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 19:16, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Template:drugs.com link with non-standard subpage}}

:Nominator's rationale: Basically just a listing of template's usage; no maintenance task present. Overview also available in {{Template parameter usage|1=Drugs.com|label=for}} (Present talk:name discussion now moot). DePiep (talk) 16:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

::Notifying {{ping|Boghog|Anomalocaris}} -DePiep (talk) 16:31, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

:* Delete as useless. However, if it is determined to be useful, it should be renamed to a name that does not imply it is an error category. —Anomalocaris (talk) 21:21, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

:*Notes: I, the nom now, created this template long time ago.

::Tech note: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Drugs.com/sandbox&oldid=968003975 this] recent {{tl|1=Drugs.com/sandbox}} ({{diffsandbox|1=Template:Drugs.com|label=diff}}) version does depopulate the category at hand. -DePiep (talk) 22:40, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 19:20, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Racehorses trained by Fred Rimell}}

:Nominator's rationale: Individual race horses aren't categorized by trainer(s). No other such category exists. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:49, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

• Delete – not needed. the infobox for the trainer already has a place to link to significant horses. Jlvsclrk (talk) 21:12, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Delete - no need for a category for a trainer's horses, too specific --Bcp67 (talk) 13:50, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
• Delete - agree with all of above comments. Stretchrunner (talk) 00:51, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
• Snow Delete - Looks near-unanimous by the active members of WikiProject horse racing. Montanabw^(talk) 22:03, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
• Delete - Not needed at all. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 11:55, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
• Delete - not needed, too specific, never been done before, no other such category exists, can be put in infobox.--Egghead06 (talk) 13:01, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 18:11, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Ancient Greek heroes}}

:Nominator's rationale: delete, it is too subjective whom to add here. Note that these are historical people, different from entries in :Category:Greek mythological heroes‎. After deletion, sub:Category:Greek hero cult should be manually added to :Category:Heroes. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

• Support/Delete - per nom, the word "hero" us too vague and subjective for a category about historical figures, for mythological figures it is fine. Inter&anthro (talk) 21:50, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Delete Subjective category, used exclusively for some figures from the Greco-Persian Wars. It is not even clear why they were singled-out. Dimadick (talk) 10:43, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge all Timrollpickering (talk) 21:41, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

: Propose merging:

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Alabama to :Category:Political events in Alabama and :Category:Alabama Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Alaska to :Category:Political events in Alaska and :Category:Alaska Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Arizona to :Category:Political events in Arizona and :Category:Arizona Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Arkansas to :Category:Political events in Arkansas and :Category:Democratic Party of Arkansas

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in California to :Category:Political events in California and :Category:California Democratic Party

{{cot|more state categories}}

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Colorado to :Category:Political events in Colorado and :Category:Colorado Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Connecticut to :Category:Political events in Connecticut and :Category:Democratic Party of Connecticut

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Delaware to :Category:Political events in Delaware and :Category:Delaware Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Florida to :Category:Political events in Florida and :Category:Florida Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Georgia to :Category:Political events in Georgia (U.S. state) and :Category:Democratic Party of Georgia

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Hawaii to :Category:Political events in Hawaii and :Category:Democratic Party of Hawaii

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Idaho to :Category:Political events in Idaho and :Category:Idaho Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Illinois to :Category:Political events in Illinois and :Category:Democratic Party of Illinois

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Indiana to :Category:Political events in Indiana and :Category:Indiana Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Iowa to :Category:Political events in Iowa and :Category:Iowa Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Kansas to :Category:Political events in Kansas and :Category:Kansas Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Kentucky to :Category:Political events in Kentucky and :Category:Kentucky Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Louisiana to :Category:Political events in Louisiana and :Category:Louisiana Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Maine to :Category:Political events in Maine and :Category:Maine Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Maryland to :Category:Political events in Maryland and :Category:Maryland Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Massachusetts to :Category:Political events in Massachusetts and :Category:Massachusetts Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Michigan to :Category:Political events in Michigan and :Category:Michigan Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Minnesota to :Category:Political events in Minnesota and :Category:Minnesota Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Mississippi to :Category:Political events in Mississippi and :Category:Mississippi Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Missouri to :Category:Political events in Missouri and :Category:Missouri Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Montana to :Category:Political events in Montana and :Category:Montana Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Nebraska to :Category:Political events in Nebraska and :Category:Nebraska Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Nevada to :Category:Political events in Nevada and :Category:Nevada Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in New Hampshire to :Category:Political events in New Hampshire and :Category:New Hampshire Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in New Jersey to :Category:Political events in New Jersey and :Category:New Jersey Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in New Mexico to :Category:Political events in New Mexico and :Category:New Mexico Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in New York (state) to :Category:Political events in New York (state) and :Category:New York (state) Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in North Carolina to :Category:Political events in North Carolina and :Category:North Carolina Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in North Dakota to :Category:Political events in North Dakota and :Category:North Dakota Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Ohio to :Category:Political events in Ohio and :Category:Ohio Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Oklahoma to :Category:Political events in Oklahoma and :Category:Oklahoma Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Oregon to :Category:Political events in Oregon and :Category:Democratic Party of Oregon

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Pennsylvania to :Category:Political events in Pennsylvania and :Category:Pennsylvania Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Rhode Island to :Category:Political events in Rhode Island and :Category:Rhode Island Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in South Carolina to :Category:Political events in South Carolina and :Category:South Carolina Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in South Dakota to :Category:Political events in South Dakota and :Category:South Dakota Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Tennessee to :Category:Political events in Tennessee and :Category:Tennessee Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Texas to :Category:Political events in Texas and :Category:Texas Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Utah to :Category:Political events in Utah and :Category:Utah Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Vermont to :Category:Political events in Vermont and :Category:Vermont Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Virginia to :Category:Political events in Virginia and :Category:Virginia Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Washington (state) to :Category:Political events in Washington (state) and :Category:Washington State Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in West Virginia to :Category:Political events in West Virginia and :Category:West Virginia Democratic Party

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Wisconsin to :Category:Political events in Wisconsin and :Category:Democratic Party of Wisconsin

:* :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Wyoming to :Category:Political events in Wyoming and :Category:Wyoming Democratic Party

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:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with often just a single subcategory. This is follow-up on this earlier discussion, {{ping|Namiba|BrownHairedGirl|Oculi}} pinging contributors to that discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

• Keep categories with 6 or more pages; delete others. This is one of those cases where a few exceptional subcats are helpful, but the complete series is mostly smallcats. The categories with 6 or more pages are: California, Illinois, Maryland, Missouri, New York (state). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:04, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Merge all per nom. The terminology is off. I agree with the nom that these create a redundant category layer. I disagree with keeping the slightly larger categories. The question is their redundancy, not their size.--User:Namiba 15:14, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
• Merge all per nom. Categories are confusing and redundant. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 20:41, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

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1. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Alabama — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Alabama}} pages
2. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Alaska — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Alaska}} pages
3. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Arizona — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Arizona}} pages
4. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Arkansas — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Arkansas}} pages
5. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in California — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in California}} pages
6. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Colorado — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Colorado}} pages
7. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Connecticut — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Connecticut}} pages
8. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Delaware — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Delaware}} pages
9. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Florida — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Florida}} pages
10. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Georgia — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Georgia}} pages
11. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Hawaii — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Hawaii}} pages
12. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Idaho — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Idaho}} pages
13. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Illinois — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Illinois}} pages
14. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Indiana — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Indiana}} pages
15. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Iowa — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Iowa}} pages
16. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Kansas — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Kansas}} pages
17. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Kentucky — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Kentucky}} pages
18. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Louisiana — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Louisiana}} pages
19. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Maine — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Maine}} pages
20. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Maryland — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Maryland}} pages
21. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Massachusetts — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Massachusetts}} pages
22. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Michigan — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Michigan}} pages
23. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Minnesota — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Minnesota}} pages
24. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Mississippi — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Mississippi}} pages
25. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Missouri — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Missouri}} pages
26. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Montana — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Montana}} pages
27. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Nebraska — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Nebraska}} pages
28. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Nevada — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Nevada}} pages
29. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in New Hampshire — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in New Hampshire}} pages
30. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in New Jersey — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in New Jersey}} pages
31. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in New Mexico — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in New Mexico}} pages
32. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in New York (state) — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in New York (state)}} pages
33. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in North Carolina — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in North Carolina}} pages
34. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in North Dakota — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in North Dakota}} pages
35. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Ohio — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Ohio}} pages
36. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Oklahoma — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Oklahoma}} pages
37. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Oregon — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Oregon}} pages
38. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Pennsylvania — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Pennsylvania}} pages
39. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Rhode Island — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Rhode Island}} pages
40. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in South Carolina — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in South Carolina}} pages
41. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in South Dakota — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in South Dakota}} pages
42. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Tennessee — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Tennessee}} pages
43. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Texas — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Texas}} pages
44. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Utah — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Utah}} pages
45. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Vermont — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Vermont}} pages
46. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Virginia — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Virginia}} pages
47. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Washington (state) — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Washington (state)}} pages
48. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in West Virginia — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in West Virginia}} pages
49. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Wisconsin — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Wisconsin}} pages
50. :Category:Democratic Party (United States) events in Wyoming — {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Democratic Party (United States) events in Wyoming}} pages

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 19:17, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Bad music}}

:Nominator's rationale: Unencyclopedic name. The Grand Delusion^{(Send a message)} 08:22, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

• Delete, the two list articles already are in :Category:Lists of worsts and anything else in this category would be subjective. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:11, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Delete per Marcocapelle....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:05, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Delete as a note the category has been emptied as of this edit, something of which I'm oppose while a CFD is active, but that being said a category under this title is highly problematic. Inter&anthro (talk) 21:53, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Comment obviously subjective, but it's now empty out of process. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:47, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
• Delete. To be fair, I'll grant that the contents prior to emptying weren't actual examples of bad music per se (which is what I expected), but articles about things that aspired to be objective study of bad music, such as List of music considered the worst and The Rhino Brothers Present the World's Worst Records. But the problem is that's not immediately apparent from the name, which practically invites unproductive edits from POV-pushers adding this category to every individual song, album or artist who simply happens to not align with the editor's own personal tastes. It's just not a good idea. But I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that other categories for {{cl|Bad literature}}, {{cl|Bad cinema}}, {{cl|Bad technology}} and {{cl|Bad television}} were also created (some by the same creator as this, some by a different one) right around the same time — but all of them are subject to exactly the same issue as this one, and all of them should also be considered for deletion or renaming accordingly. Bearcat (talk) 18:40, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus to merge. Renaming (with redirect) to :Category:British television shows by genre is then required under WP:C2C per parent :Category:British television shows. I will implement this as a split, since most of the contents are series as opposed to one-offs. – Fayenatic London 14:00, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging renaming :Category:British television programmes by genre to :Category:British television series by genre

:Nominator's rationale: merge rename, aligning with siblings in :Category:Television series by country and genre. Also, purge :Category:British television documentaries and re-add :Category:British documentary television series. This was earlier opposed at CFDS. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

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• :Category:British television programmes by genre to :Category:British television series by genre – C2C: per convention of :Category:Television series by country and genre. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:37, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Not all the programmes in this category are series. Some are one-off. Thincat (talk) 10:19, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
• @Thincat, if that is the case, then there are two options:

:::# purge this category of show that are not series

:::# rename all the other subcats of :Category:Television series by country and genre to use "shows".

:::But I don't see the case for making British programming an exception. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:53, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

::::There shouldn't be an exception for Britain. However, articles properly categorised as programmes/programs/shows (in any country) shouldn't be improperly re-categorised as series. Another (hypothetical) suggestion: remove :Category:British television programmes by genre from :Category:Television series by country and genre which is, I think, the source of the problem. I now see :Category:Television shows is (temporarily?) chaotic. Thincat (talk) 11:13, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

:::::@Thincat, excluding Brits shows from :Category:Television series by country and genre is no solution. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:21, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

::::Your option (1) would involve a great deal of work. Some subcats contain mostly one-offs (:Category:British television documentaries) other subcats contain mostly series (or entirely if the subcat naming is correct). (2) would seem to me preferable but not as a speedy because the situation has not been clear. Thincat (talk) 08:54, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

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: {{ping|BrownHairedGirl|Thincat}} pinging contributors to CFDS discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

• Support - it appears to be a merge. Agree that non-series should be removed. (:Category:Television shows by genre does exist but is not subcatted by country.) Oculi (talk) 09:31, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose (Am I expected to comment again? The process for dealing with inappropriate speedies is very arcane.) It is only a merge because the target category was created after the speedy nomination. Sure, if one-off shows are moved to an appropriate category (not merely removed from this category) a merge would be fine but is this remotely likely to happen? As it is the current category name is descriptive of its contents and the new name would not be descriptive. Thincat (talk) 09:56, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• In other countries we have a documentary television films category for one-offs, see :Category:Documentary television films by country. We may align the UK with that in another nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:11, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• :Category:British television series by genre was created [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:British_television_series_by_genre&oldid=949253664 on 5 Apr 2020]. Oculi (talk) 10:37, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oh, yes. Thank you. Thincat (talk) 11:44, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 19:19, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lt|Osteo-manip-med-stub}}

:Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of {{tl|Osteo-med-stub}} Tom (LT) (talk) 04:55, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

::User:Tom (LT): this page is CfD; shouldn't this one be at WP:TfD? ;-) -DePiep (talk) 17:13, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

:::Oops, it's a stub. -DePiep (talk) 17:16, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

::::@{{u|DePiep}}, I mentally went through that exact process when Twinkle directed me here. Lucky I'm not the only one {{emoji|1F61C}}! --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:11, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

:Delete. Created w/o due process waaaaay back in July 2007, used on only one article. Her Pegship (I'm listening) 00:12, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

:Delete per above. Grutness...wha? 04:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. bibliomaniac15 18:13, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Cargill family to :Category:Cargill family (New Zealand)

:Nominator's rationale: to disambiguate them from the Cargill family, who are American. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:09, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

• Delete per lack of a main article and borderline WP:SMALLCAT. Rename per nom if kept. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Rename per nom - sufficient entries in the category to keep. GiantSnowman 09:42, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Rename per nom as there are enough of them, and there are more in the family who are notable who haven't got an article yet. Schwede66 20:44, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. Grutness...wha? 03:59, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
• Rename per nom, but removing the American Austen S. Cargill II (leaving 5). Johnbod (talk) 15:47, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

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