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== Teen magazines ==

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 19:36, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Teens' magazines to :Category:Teen magazines

:* Propose renaming :Category:Teens' magazines published in Japan to :Category:Teen magazines published in Japan

:* Propose renaming :Category:Teens' magazine stubs to :Category:Teen magazine stubs

:Nominator's rationale: The main article is Teen magazine. To pluralize that would be "Teen magazines" as is used in the article List of teen magazines. Adding an "s" and a possessive apostrophe to "Teen" is unnecessary. For comparison, we have {{Cat|Teen sitcoms}} and {{cat|Teen films}}, though the parent category for all of these is {{Cat|Teens' entertainment}}. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

  • Rename per WP:C2D and also nominate {{Cat|Teens' entertainment}}. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  • I will nominate {{Cat|Teens' entertainment}} if this rename goes through. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:29, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Rename per all of the above. Her Pegship (?) 16:16, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:People who lost United States citizenship ==

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== Category:Interracial romance in fiction ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename; I'll leave the manual purging to whomever wants to do it. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:30, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Interracial romance in fiction to :Category:Fiction about interracial romance

:Nominator's rationale: A lot of the shows in this cat, like The Flash (2014 TV series), Supergirl (TV series) and Batwoman (TV series) rarely, if ever, even acknowledge the fact that the interracial romances are in fact interracial. and therefore, it's not defining for these categories. This cat should only contain fiction in which the fact that the romance is interracial is important to the plot, like Mixed-ish, Bob Hearts Abishola and Othello. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 22:24, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete another "about" category. Also, race is in the eye of the beholder. Note the inclusion of I Love Lucy category here. Is it Wikipedia's policy that Latinos are of a different race than White people, despite the Census Bureau of the United States stating otherwise? Seems a little like Apartheid - but the way political winds are blowing we're being marginalized by other institutions, why not WP? smh Carlossuarez46 (talk) 05:12, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Rename and purge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Purge Yeah this is another example of where in film television where the category becomes too dense due to the entries having different amount of use in their plot. Yiu can have one film where it is only mentioned sparsley in the plot like The Jeffersons but then have a film where it is central conflict or a key characteristic to the primary and secondary characters like in the film Jungle Fever. There should be a general standard to what can be considered important to the plot to be included in said category. I'm neutral to the renaming though. ֆօʍɛɮօɖʏǟռʏɮօɖʏ05 (talk) 12:05, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Rename per nom Clearer scope. Dimadick (talk) 16:20, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:Union of Journalists of Moldova members ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 19:41, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Union of Journalists of Moldova members to :Category:Moldovan journalists

:Nominator's rationale: I think they are all in the Moldovan journalists category. Being a member of the union is not really defining and most of the articles dont mention the union. Rathfelder (talk) 20:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

  • Support, plain membership of an organization is hardly ever defining. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:54, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:American children's animated variety television series ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 20:14, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:American children's animated variety television series to :Category:American children's animated television series and :Category:American variety television series

:* Propose merging :Category:American children's variety television series to :Category:American children's television series and :Category:American variety television series

:Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, one article each. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:16, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

  • NoteI expanded each of the cats a little, but they are still relatively small. I'm neutral on deleting. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 22:43, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Merge per nom Only one of these articles even mentions the term "variety". The categorization does not reflect the articles' content. Dimadick (talk) 16:23, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:Dallas (TV franchise) character redirects to lists ==

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== Category:Connecticut populated places on the Connecticut River ==

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:The result of the discussion was: do not merge. MER-C 19:45, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Connecticut populated places on the Connecticut River to :Category:Populated places on the Connecticut River

:Nominator's rationale: In a surprise to no one, there are a few populated places on the Connecticut River.. in Connecticut. This seems like a classic WP:OVERLAPCAT to me. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 05:14, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

::Maybe not WP:OVERLAPCAT or WP:OCLOCATION, but it certainly is WP:OVERCAT. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 05:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

  • Procedural oppose, this should not be nominated without its sibling categories like :Category:Massachusetts populated places on the Connecticut River. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
  • :{{re|Marcocapelle}} most of the sibling cats are longstanding creations, I believe. Either way, I don't seek to challenge any other category execpt the one that I find the most redundant and effects the articles I personally work on in general. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 16:58, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

::* It is either redundant in all states or it is not redundant at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep There are enought places in Connecticut that are not along its namesake River. For instance, New Haven is one of the major cities in the state. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:08, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep -- This is a perfectly reasonable category. The fact that the sate takes its name from a river does not mean that all places are on the river. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:53, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:Mac OS software ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename/merge as set out by {{u|Fayenatic london}}. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:36, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Mac OS software to :Category:MacOS software

:Nominator's rationale: Considerable overlap and nearly identical names. macOS is the current term for this particular operating system, so all content should be merged in that direction Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:08, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

:I have not nominated :Category:Mac OS character encodings or its subcat, because their names match their contents. – Fayenatic London 11:01, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose, per what Fayenatic said. There have been two main lines of OS for Macintosh, the classic Mac OS line and the Mac OS X/OS X/macOS line, with the latter being a completely different OS that has, earlier in its history, offered various mechanisms for running software for the former (the Classic Environment, which ran classic Mac OS binaries inside a simulated classic Mac OS, and Carbon plus Preferred Executable Format (PEF) support in Launch Services (if Boring Old {{mono|exec()}} fails, Launch Services would run a "PEF runner" program and hand it the file), which allowed application developers to build binaries that would run natively on both the classic Mac OS and Mac OS X). If using "Mac OS" to refer collectively to both OSes is confusing people, then replacing it with "Macintosh" seems a reasonable fix.

:And the only native macOS character encodings are UTF-8 (at the UN*X layer) and UTF-16 (on disk in HFS+ and in some layers running atop the UN*X layer), so, yes, there's no need to rename :Category:Mac OS character encodings. Guy Harris (talk) 17:57, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

:*So should the encodings cats be renamed Classic Mac OS? – Fayenatic London 08:20, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

::*Yes, for the character encodings, "Mac OS" -> "Classic Mac OS" makes sense; they're only used in macOS for backwards compatibility (less important over time). Guy Harris (talk) 08:28, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

::**Thanks, I have added these to the nomination.– Fayenatic London 15:22, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose, completely agree with Fayenatic. OSes are completely different and the classic mac cats should be renamed to "Macintosh". Ryan Norton 20:10, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Er, no, the classic Mac OS cats do not need to be changed, but the parents over both Classic and current macOS should be renamed Macintosh. – Fayenatic London 08:20, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:Television series set in the 27th century ==

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. I don't think there are any other TV series in the nominated target. – Fayenatic London 10:22, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Television series set in the 27th century to :Category:Fiction set in the 27th century

:Nominator's rationale: Single-page category. Check if there are any more television series among the 48 articles currently at the target. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:34, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:Video games set in the 32nd century ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 19:43, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Video games set in the 32nd century to :Category:Video games set in the 4th millennium

:* Propose merging :Category:Video games set in the 33rd century to :Category:Video games set in the 4th millennium

:* Propose merging :Category:Video games set in the 34th century to :Category:Video games set in the 4th millennium

:* Propose merging :Category:Video games set in the 35th century to :Category:Video games set in the 4th millennium

:Nominator's rationale: Each of these categories has only 1 or 2 pages. There are 6 pages in total, plus the subcategory :Category:Video games set in the 31st century and a few other pages—enough to make a category for the entire 4th millennium. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:30, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:Films set in the 40th century ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. bibliomaniac15 05:07, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Films set in the 40th century to :Category:Fiction set in the 4th millennium

:Nominator's rationale: Two pages, both from the same franchise. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:Television series set in the 31st century ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. bibliomaniac15 05:07, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Television series set in the 31st century to :Category:Fiction set in the 31st century

:Nominator's rationale: Contains only 1 entry, Futurama. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:24, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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== Category:Fiction set in the 32nd century ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. bibliomaniac15 05:07, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Fiction set in the 32nd century}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Works set in the 32nd century}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Television series set in the 32nd century}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only two entries in this tree, one of which is a specific season of the other. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:21, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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