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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 00:00, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transportation buildings and structures in the Northern Mariana Islands}} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in the Northern Mariana Islands by type}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transportation infrastructure in the Northern Mariana Islands}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in the Northern Mariana Islands}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content here is {{Cl|Airports in the Northern Mariana Islands}}. These empty intermediate categories bring little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 23:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support These added layers are not adding navigational value. No objection to recreating any if relevant articles ever appear. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:05, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Delete There is no to little value in keeping this category. D4iNa4 (talk) 09:01, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Is it really self-evident that 'structures' mean infrastructure? No objection to recreating any if relevant articles ever appear. --Just N. (talk) 17:53, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transportation buildings and structures in American Samoa}} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in American Samoa by type}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transportation infrastructure in American Samoa}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in American Samoa}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content here is {{Cl|Airports in American Samoa}}. These empty intermediate categories bring little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 23:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support These added layers are not adding navigational value. No objection to recreating any if relevant articles ever appear. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now. --Just N. (talk) 17:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:50, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transport buildings and structures in the Cook Islands}} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in the Cook Islands}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport infrastructure in the Cook Islands}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in the Cook Islands}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content here is {{Cl|Airports in the Cook Islands}}. These empty intermediate categories bring little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 23:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support There is no to little value in keeping this category. D4iNa4 (talk) 09:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support There is no to little value in keeping this category. D4iNa4 (talk) 09:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers do not aid navigation for the small amount of articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:07, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now. --Just N. (talk) 17:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:17, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Summits of the Laurentians (administrative region)}}

:Nominator's rationale: Redundant to {{cl|Summits of Laurentides}}, in which the sole member article is already placed. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Merge or Reverse Merge Clearly overlapping but I'll defer to others on the best name. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, because a merge to :Category:Summits of Laurentides is not needed. Also, this category is a subcategory to itself. Circular merging would be cat-astrophic: it could send the bot into an infinite loop.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 17:57, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:15, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transport buildings and structures in New Caledonia}} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in New Caledonia}} and {{Cl|Transport in New Caledonia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport infrastructure in New Caledonia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in New Caledonia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water transport in New Caledonia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water in New Caledonia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Towers in New Caledonia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Landmarks in New Caledonia}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content in the first category is {{Cl|Lighthouses in New Caledonia}} (1 "list" article and 1 lighthouse) and {{Cl|Airports in New Caledonia}}. All the rest forms a long string of empty categories with little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 22:45, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers do not aid navigation for the small amount of articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now. --Just N. (talk) 17:58, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:12, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water transport in Guadeloupe}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water in Guadeloupe}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Towers in Guadeloupe}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Landmarks in Guadeloupe}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content in the first category is {{Cl|Lighthouses in Guadeloupe}}, which is already properly categorized. All the rest forms a long string of empty categories with little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 22:45, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers do not aid navigation for the small amount of articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now. --Just N. (talk) 17:59, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:29, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transport buildings and structures in Wallis and Futuna}} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in Wallis and Futuna}} and {{Cl|Transport in Wallis and Futuna}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport infrastructure in Wallis and Futuna}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in Wallis and Futuna}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content in the first category is {{Cl|Airports in Wallis and Futuna}}. These empty intermediate categories bring little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 21:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers do not aid navigation for the small amount of articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now. --Just N. (talk) 17:59, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:27, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transport buildings and structures in Mayotte }} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in Mayotte}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport infrastructure in Mayotte}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in Mayotte}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content in the first category is {{Cl|Airports in Mayotte}} (1 "list" and 1 airport). These empty intermediate categories bring little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 21:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now- --Just N. (talk) 18:00, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transport buildings and structures in Saint Barthélemy}} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in Saint Barthélemy}} and {{Cl|Transport in Saint Barthélemy}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport infrastructure in Saint Barthélemy}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in Saint Barthélemy}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water transport in Saint Barthélemy}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water in Saint Barthélemy}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Towers in Saint Barthélemy}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Landmarks in Saint Barthélemy}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Tourist attractions in Saint Barthélemy}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content in the first category is {{Cl|Lighthouses in Saint Barthélemy}} (1 list, no article) and {{Cl|Airports in Saint Barthélemy}} (1 "list" and 1 airport). All the rest forms a long string of empty categories with little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 21:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers do not aid navigation for the small amount of articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now. --Just N. (talk) 18:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:24, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Electric power companies of Saba}} to {{Cl|Electric power companies of the Netherlands}} and {{Cl|Economy of Saba}}

:* Propose deleting {{Cl|Energy companies of Saba}}

:* Propose deleting {{Cl|Companies of Saba}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Electric power in Saba}} to {{Cl|Electric power in the Caribbean}}

:* Propose deleting {{Cl|Energy in Saba}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Geothermal energy in Saba}} to {{Cl|Renewable energy in the Netherlands}} and {{Cl|Geothermal energy in North America}}

:* Propose deleting {{Cl|Renewable energy in Saba}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Electric power companies of Saint Kitts and Nevis}} to {{Cl|Companies of Saint Kitts and Nevis}} and {{Cl|Electric power in the Caribbean}}

:* Propose deleting {{Cl|Energy companies of Saint Kitts and Nevis}}

:* Propose deleting {{Cl|Electric power in Saint Kitts and Nevis}}

:* Propose deleting {{Cl|Energy in Saint Kitts and Nevis}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Geothermal energy in Saint Kitts and Nevis}} to {{Cl|Geothermal energy in North America}}

:* Propose deleting {{Cl|Renewable energy in Saint Kitts and Nevis}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Electric power companies of Dominica}} to {{Cl|Energy in Dominica}} and {{Cl|Electric power in the Caribbean}}

:* Propose deleting {{Cl|Energy companies of Dominica}}

:* Propose deleting {{Cl|Electric power in Dominica}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Geothermal energy in Dominica}} to {{Cl|Geothermal energy in North America}}

:* Propose deleting {{Cl|Renewable energy in Dominica}}

: Nominator's rationale: these 18 categories are for only one article: West Indies Power. The article (last meaningful update in 2008) describes it as a company based in Saint Kitts and Nevis with projects of geothermal energy in Nevis, Dominica and Saba (they are Caribbean islands). It seems from a quick web search that the company never completed any of the projects and does not have any activity since 2014. Its website is offline. Regardless of the actual status of the company, I suggest upmerging these near-empty categories to the nearest non-empty parent. Place Clichy (talk) 16:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Delete/merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:23, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Good grief. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:07, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose all as they are part of the Energy in country X standard category tree. If West Indies Power will be deleted and those categories to become unpopulated, they should be deleted, of course, but in meantime they should remain to allow the standard categorization of energy related articles. Beagel (talk) 09:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• If the proposal is implemented, the article will still be in the following categories: {{Cl|Energy in Dominica}}, {{Cl|Electric power companies of the Netherlands}}, {{Cl|Geothermal energy in North America}}, {{Cl|Electric power in the Caribbean}}, {{Cl|Companies of Saint Kitts and Nevis}}, {{Cl|Economy of Saba}} and {{Cl|Renewable energy in the Netherlands}} in addition to other companies already in the article and not nominated in this list: {{Cl|Renewable energy companies of North America}}, {{Cl|Nevis}} and {{Cl|Buildings and structures in Nevis}}. The article will therefore still be in the Energy by country category tree by several channels, in addition to Caribbean and North America categories. Place Clichy (talk) 16:35, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

:::It will be excluded from the Geothermal power in X and Electric power in X category series, which does not serve our readers interests. Your proposal fits perfectly for the stand-alone categories, but all those categories are part of the category tree, which will be disrupted. Beagel (talk) 14:43, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

:::: Let's say I'm a reader following that tree: what will I find exactly? I'm going to keep going to category after category and find the same article over and over again which doesn't actually contain relevant information. It's good to disrupt a tree if it doesn't aid navigation. RevelationDirect (talk) 05:12, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

• Delete/merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:02, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Members of Governing Council Of Indian Premier League to :Category:Members of the Board of Control for Cricket in India

:Nominator's rationale: Board of Control for Cricket in India seems to be the main article. The current title has a miscapitalised "of" and lacks an article, so if the "Governing Council of the Indian Premier League" is correct, it should be renamed there. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 15:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Rename to align with main article name. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Speedy Per WP:C2D. (Note: I removed Indian Premier League from the category.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Rename per nom and WP:C2D. --Just N. (talk) 18:03, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transport buildings and structures in Saba}} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in Saba}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport infrastructure in Saba}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in Saba}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Aviation in Saba}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport in Saba}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Tourism in Saba}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content here is {{Cl|Airports in Saba}} (1 "list" and 1 airport). All the rest forms a long string of empty categories with little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 13:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - this (and similar ones below) has not been thought out properly. None of the above is empty as they all include the non-empty {{Cl|Airports in Saba}}. Why does the nom wish to remove signposts from :Category:Aviation in the Caribbean by dependent territory, giving the impression that Saba has no aviation? Oculi (talk) 14:48, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• : {{Cl|Airports in Saba}} is not nominated here and it is not empty, however this hoard of parent categories are empty (i.e. they have no other content but the airport subcategory). This makes 7 categories for just 1 airport. {{Cl|Airports in Saba}} will not be removed from :Category:Aviation in the Caribbean by dependent territory, it will still be there through parents {{Cl|Airports in the Caribbean by dependent territory}} and {{Cl|Airports in the Dutch Caribbean}} which are not affected either by this nomination. If there was other content relative to aviation in Saba (e.g. an airline) we would of course need a category for it, but I am not aware of any airline based in Saba. After all, Saba is a 1,900-inhabitant Dutch Caribbean island that is not even a dependent territory in is own right, it is therefore not very surprising that there is no content. Place Clichy (talk) 16:45, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support -- This is a typical case of bad categorisation. Saba is a small island with one airport so that there is no scope for expansion and little in sibling categories. Its airport should by directly in :Category:Airports in the Caribbean and one appropriate category for Saba or the polity on which it is dependent. This applies equally to various other Empty trees nominated below. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support, a dual merge is not needed because the subcategory is already part of :Category:Airports in the Caribbean by dependent territory. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:33, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers do not aid navigation when so few articles are involved. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:14, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:14, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transport buildings and structures in Sint Maarten}} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in Sint Maarten}} and {{Cl|Aviation in Sint Maarten}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport infrastructure in Sint Maarten}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in Sint Maarten}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content here is {{Cl|Airports in Sint Maarten}} (1 "list" and 1 airport). These empty intermediate categories bring little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 13:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - see Saba above. Oculi (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• : The objecting rationale given for Saba above does not apply here, as {{Cl|Aviation in Sint Maarten}} has content and was not nominated for deletion/upmerge. Place Clichy (talk) 16:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support, similar situation as for Saba above. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:36, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers do not aid navigation when so few articles are involved. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:15, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:06, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:12, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transport buildings and structures in Sint Eustatius}} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in Sint Eustatius}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport infrastructure in Sint Eustatius}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in Sint Eustatius}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water transport in Sint Eustatius}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water in Sint Eustatius}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Tourism in Sint Eustatius}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Aviation in Sint Eustatius}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport in Sint Eustatius}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content in the first category is {{Cl|Lighthouses in Sint Eustatius}} (1 "list" article and 1 article about a city with a lighthouse, not the lighthouse itself) and {{Cl|Airports in Sint Eustatius}} (1 "list" and 1 airport). All the rest forms a long string of empty categories with little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 12:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - see Saba above. Oculi (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• : As for Saba above, there isn't any content about aviation in Sint Eustatius besides 1 article about the airport. 1 category for that ({{Cl|Airports in Sint Eustatius}}) is already enough, 7 different categories are certainly not needed. {{Cl|Airports in Sint Eustatius}} will still be in {{Cl|Airports in the Caribbean by dependent territory}} and {{Cl|Airports in the Dutch Caribbean}} and their parent categories and therefore not cut from Caribbean aviation categories. After all, Sint Eustatius is a 3,000-inhabitant Dutch Caribbean island that is not even a dependent territory in is own right, it is therefore not very surprising that there is no more content. Place Clichy (talk) 16:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support, similar situation as for Saba above. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:36, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers do not aid navigation when so few articles are involved. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:15, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now. --Just N. (talk) 18:07, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transport buildings and structures in Aruba}} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in Aruba by type}} and {{Cl|Transport in Aruba}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport infrastructure in Aruba}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in Aruba}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water transport in Aruba}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content in the first category is {{Cl|Lighthouses in Aruba}} (1 list and 3 articles) and {{Cl|Airports in Aruba}} (1 "list" and 1 airport). All the rest forms a long string of empty categories with little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 12:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - see Saba above. Oculi (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• : The objecting rationale given for Saba above does not apply here, as {{Cl|Aviation in Aruba}} has content and was not nominated for deletion/upmerge. Place Clichy (talk) 16:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support, similar situation as for Saba above. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers are not aiding navigation. The aviation articles here are not impacted. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers do not aid navigation when so few articles are involved. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:15, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transport buildings and structures in Curaçao}} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in Curaçao by type}} and {{Cl|Transport in Curaçao}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport infrastructure in Curaçao}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in Curaçao}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water transport in Curaçao}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Towers in Curaçao}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Landmarks in Curaçao}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content in the first category is {{Cl|Lighthouses in Curaçao}} (1 list article and 2 articles about geographic features with a lighthouse, not the lighthouse itself) and {{Cl|Airports in Curaçao}} (1 article). All the rest forms a long string of empty categories with little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 11:49, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - see Saba above. Oculi (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• : The objecting rationale given for Saba above does not apply here, as {{Cl|Aviation in Curaçao}} has content and was not nominated for deletion/upmerge. Place Clichy (talk) 16:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support -- See comments under Saba above. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support, similar situation as for Saba above. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers do not aid navigation when so few articles are involved. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:15, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now. --Just N. (talk) 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:07, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transport buildings and structures in Saint Pierre and Miquelon }} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in Saint Pierre and Miquelon}} and {{Cl|Transport in Saint Pierre and Miquelon}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport infrastructure in Saint Pierre and Miquelon}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in Saint Pierre and Miquelon}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content here is {{Cl|Airports in Saint Pierre and Miquelon}}. All the rest are empty categories with little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 11:49, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - see Saba above. Oculi (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• : The objecting rationale given for Saba above does not apply here, as the airports category would still be in {{Cl|Transport in Saint Pierre and Miquelon}}, which looks like a perfectly appropriate location with all other content relative to aviation and transport in the territory, as well as {{Cl|Airports in Overseas France}} and {{Cl|Airports in North America by dependent territory}} with all possible parents in aviation categories. I do not see any issue with that categorization and no information would be lost. Place Clichy (talk) 16:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support :Category:Airports in Saint Pierre and Miquelon is appropriately categorised, save that it needs a new category placing it directly under :Category:Saint Pierre and Miquelon. This is a small island group, which France was allowed to keep when it lost Canada to enable French fishermen on the Grand Banks to have a shore establishment. There is little scope for expansion, so that the twigs leading to the single article should be pruned away. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Merge, similar situation as for Saba above. The "new category" of Peterkingiron is the two merge targets as nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:41, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers do not aid navigation when so few articles are involved. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:16, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now. --Just N. (talk) 18:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Geography of Bangsamoro. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Bangsamoro Special Geographic Area to :Category:Special geographic area of Bangsamoro

:Nominator's rationale: To match the main article of the category. —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 09:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support. Should have been speedied ;).--RioHondo (talk) 09:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

::{{re|RioHondo}} I guess Twinkle doesn't have that feature? —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 10:01, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Merge to :Category:Geography of Bangsamoro per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only two articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:48, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Merge/Rename if Kept Per Mar. above. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:12, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Merge/Rename if Kept Per Mar. above. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Merge/Rename if Kept per Marcocapelle above. --Just N. (talk) 18:10, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:04, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Transport buildings and structures in Bonaire}} to {{Cl|Buildings and structures in Bonaire}} and {{Cl|Transport in Bonaire}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Transport infrastructure in Bonaire}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infrastructure in Bonaire}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water transport in Bonaire}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water in Bonaire}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Towers in Bonaire}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Landmarks in Bonaire}}

: Nominator's rationale: the only content in the first category is {{Cl|Lighthouses in Bonaire}} (1 list article and 1 article about a city with a lighthouse, not the lighthouse itself) and {{Cl|Airports in Bonaire}} (1 list and 1 airport). All the rest forms a long string of empty categories with little value. Copy-pasting the category structure of large countries to small places with less content is not always a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 09:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - see Saba above. Oculi (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• : The objecting rationale given for Saba above does not apply here, as {{Cl|Aviation in Bonaire}} has content and was not nominated for deletion/upmerge. Place Clichy (talk) 16:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support -- The content can be placed directly under Bonaire, without the intervening twigs. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support, similar as with Saba. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per now with thanks for all the heavy lifting. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support These layers do not aid navigation when so few articles are involved. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:16, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Wikipedia categories named after subdivisions of the United States}}

::WP:SMALLCAT — Consists of only 1 subcategory:

::* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Wikipedia categories named after regions of the United States}}

:Nominator's rationale: Not a maintenance category populated by template. Duplicates parent's sub-categories and list categories.

:WP:CSD#G4 Previous variants have been deleted in the past:

:*Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 October 5#Category:Wikipedia categories named after states of the United States

:William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:42, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Delete, these regions can easily found under :Category:Regions of the United States by state, this is just duplication. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 10:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Delete Overlaps with :Category:Regions of the United States by state and doesn't serve an administrative purpose. (I'm open to broader "Wikipedia categories named after..." nominations.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Keep - the rationale is refreshingly brief, but "not a maintenance category populated by template" would cover the deletion of nearly all categories. I would not have supported the deletion of any of the past ones either - editors simply do not understand "Category:Wikipedia categories named after ..." I would leave something alone if I didn't understand it. Moreover a category containing a subcat with 177 subcats contains 177 subcats (at least) and is hardly small. Oculi (talk) 15:12, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:12, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 21:59, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Jewish American mathematicians}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Jewish Polish mathematicians}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Jewish Hungarian mathematicians}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:NOTDEFINING. No suggestion that being Jewish had any particular influence on the work of these mathematicians, per {{U|Rathfelder}}.

:See:

:*Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 25#Category:Jewish Ukrainian mathematicians

:*Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 12#Category:Mathematicians by ethnicity

:*Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 May 14#Category:Jewish mathematicians

:*Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 April 29#Category:Mathematicians by religion

:William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Delete, trivial intersection between ethnicity and occupation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Thank you for finding the earlier debate. Clearly these categories should never have been created. Rathfelder (talk) 10:23, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, and previous discussions. These categories seem to have been copied from Hebrew Wikipedia without consideration for conventions in the English Wikipedia. Creators/copyists seem to act as if Jewish was a nationality, which it is not. Place Clichy (talk) 10:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Delete no indication that Jewish mathematicians do math differently than Gentile mathematicians. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Keep, actually [https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783642224638 there is].—Prisencolin (talk) 02:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
• Furthermore, a head article (List of Jewish mathematicians), as suggested in WP:EGRS, had been created at some point since the first CFD, and there have been no AFD requests since then.--Prisencolin (talk) 03:19, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
• : The list is irrelevant, EGRS says that it should be a notable topic in its own right. Just a list says nothing in that regard. The point is (in this case) that Jewish mathematicians should have had a different way of doing math than their gentile counterparts, as Carlossuarez46 nicely phrased it. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
• ::"This is a special collection of problems that were given to select applicants during oral entrance exams to the math department of Moscow State University. These problems were designed to prevent Jews and other undesirables from getting a passing grade. Among problems that were used by the department to blackball unwanted candidate students, these problems are distinguished by having a simple solution that is difficult to find. Using problems with a simple solution protected the administration from extra complaints and appeals. This collection therefore has mathematical as well as historical value."[https://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1556].--Prisencolin (talk) 11:00, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
• ::: What you are referring to here is a test conceived to be arbitrary enough so that an examiner could arbitrarily decide which candidate would pass based primarily on whether they liked the candidate or not. This says something about the test, and about the examiner, but it says nothing about the candidates, except the fact that Jews suffered discrimination in Russia. This in a way reminds of "literacy" and other tests used in the Southern U.S. to prevent Black people from voting, using a very similar mechanism. However, the self-contradiction between this argument and your others arguments in this discussion is smothering: at the same time, Jews would have superior cognitive functions applied to mathematics, and comparable lower results in a math test? How is that supposed to get us anywhere? Both notions are just the expression of various discarded prejudices. Place Clichy (talk) 15:47, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
• ::While Ashkenazi Jewish intelligence has been deleted, there is definitely still research out there suggesting a link between Ashkenazi Jews and superior cognitive function, such as in mathematics [https://web.mit.edu/fustflum/documents/papers/AshkenaziIQ.jbiosocsci.pdf].--Prisencolin (talk) 11:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
• :::In other words, this is a racist category that has been used for racist purposes at Moscow State University, and is supported by IQ "researchers" at University of Utah. The IQ tests themselves have been shown to be biased. (Speaking as somebody with a reported IQ of more than 3 standard deviations above the mean.)
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 12:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
• :::: If descent from Ancient Judea was the defining factor in these mathematics skills, why would this affect only Ashkenazi Jews and not Sephardis? I guess there's nothing really related to Judaism here. Place Clichy (talk) 15:47, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
• ::::: We do not remove content that can be construed as racist WP:NOTCENSORED and all social science (and science in general), is going to be biased in some way. Some fields (like IQ research) can be criticized more frequently for their biases, but I don’t think that’s a reason to exclude WP:POV depictions of said research on the encyclopedia.
• ::::: The three countries whose subcategories are listed here are all primarily have Jewish populations which are primarily Ashkenazim in their population. Maybe the categories need to renamed to be like :Category: [country] Ashkenazi Jewish mathematicians —-Prisencolin (talk) 17:57, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:12, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete and upmerge to :Category:United States Department of Commerce images. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 21:57, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Economics and Statistics Administration images}}

:Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer in the United States government images category tree. Contains only one category. Upmerge. Wikiacc (¶) 02:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Merge, redundant category layer. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Upmerge. --Just N. (talk) 18:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 21:53, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose Listifying/Deleting" :Category:Recipients of the Order of Military Merit (Dominican Republic)

:Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING (WP:PERFCAT, WP:OVERLAPCAT, and WP:OCAWARD)

:During the Banana Wars, American troops were routinely stationed in Latin America including during the occupation of the Dominican Republic. US troops in that conflict automatically received Dominican Campaign Medal, an American campaign medal, and they also generally received the Order of Military Merit (Dominican Republic) after the war, ostensibly as a local thank you. The stated purpose of the award was broader, but all 6 of the articles in this category are high ranking US military officials who are already under :Category:People of the Banana Wars. The articles generally mention this award in passing with other honours so it doesn't seem defining. There wasn't a list so I created one right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Delete more overcat by award.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and WP:OCAWARD. --Just N. (talk) 18:15, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 21:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose Deleting/Listifying :Category:Order of Stjepan Radić recipients

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)

:The Order of Stjepan Radić is given by the president of Croatia "for services and sacrifices for the national and social rights". This category has 3 articles (a President of Croatia, another prominent politician, and a war hero) who are already well categorized. Within the articles, this award gets mentioned in passing and seems to reflect their pre-existing fame rather than be defining. There wasn't a list so I cretated one right here within the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Delete, obvious case of WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:54, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Delete more overcat by award.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:36, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Deleteper nom and WP:OCAWARD. --Just N. (talk) 18:15, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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