Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 14#Category:Dualism

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 02:01, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:List of film directional debuts to :Category:Directorial debut films

:Nominator's rationale: 1) It should be "directorial", not "directional". 2) "List of..." for the name of a category seems inappropriate. 3) We already have :Category:Directorial debut films. DonIago (talk) 19:49, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

• Delete. All of the films in this category are already in an appropriate :Category:Directorial debut films by year subcategory. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 03:17, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
• Delete per Star. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 06:40, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
• Delete. Totally redundant, as well as misnamed. JBW (talk) 13:07, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: WP:SOFTDELETE (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 15:39, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|DYK/Empty categories}}

:Nominator's rationale: Pointless tracking category. If a category is empty, it is either ok and meant to be at times empty, or not valid and should be deleted. If it should be deleted, it automatically appears in empty category lists and people take care of it. Since this category does not even have documentation it is not even clear if it is ever used. Gonnym (talk) 16:45, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 01:59, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

:*Propose merging {{cl|1895 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1890s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1907 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1900s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1912 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1910s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1914 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1910s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1916 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1910s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1918 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1910s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1919 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1910s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1920 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1920s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1922 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1920s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1923 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1920s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1924 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1920s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1926 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1920s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1927 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1920s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1928 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1920s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1929 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1920s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1930 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1930s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1931 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1930s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1932 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1930s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1933 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1930s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1934 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1930s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1935 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1930s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1936 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1930s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1943 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1940s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1947 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1940s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1948 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1940s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1949 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1940s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1950 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1950s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1951 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1950s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1953 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1950s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1954 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1950s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1956 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1950s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1957 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1950s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1958 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1950s LGBT-related films}}

:*Propose merging {{cl|1959 LGBT-related films}} to {{cl|1950s LGBT-related films}}

:Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary WP:SMALLCATs for the intersection of a particular genre of film with a particular year of release, for years which generally had only one or two films to so categorize. In the contemporary era, LGBT-themed films are obviously common enough that diffusing a decade category into individual year categories makes sense for size management purposes; for example, the smallest individual year subcategory in {{cl|2010s LGBT-related films}} has 72 films in it, and even {{cl|2021 LGBT-related films}} already has 30 films in it even though the year isn't even half over yet. But in the 1950s and earlier, notable LGBT-themed films were extremely rare, such that the largest of any of these categories has just six articles in it and only one other category surpasses three articles, absolutely none of these decades cracked 30 LGBT-related films across the entire decade let alone just the first half of a single year, and every one of these decades batched here has at least two years where there are no categories at all because there aren't any films to categorize in them. Even in the lists of LGBT-related films, we only have separate lists per year from 1960 on, and for 1959 and before we just have by decade lists, because there just aren't enough films to justify splitting them up by year.
This is really only useful if all ten year categories can be created and populated over SMALLCAT right off the bat, because the decade category already had dozens or hundreds of films in it — if the entire decade had fewer LGBT-related films than just the first half of 2021 alone, and there are some years in said decade where a category can't even be created at all because there were no LGBT-related films to file in it, then obsessively subcatting them all by year instead of decade isn't aiding navigation. (Plus, for added bonus, almost every film in any of these categories was left in the decade category alongside the individual year subcategory, so upmerging these won't even make the decade categories appreciably larger.) Bearcat (talk) 14:51, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

• Upmerge per nom. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 16:13, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
• Upmerge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 02:16, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Stanisław Wyspiański to :Category:Works by Stanisław Wyspiański

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON. Besides the eponymous article, this category has articles about 2 stained glass windows and 1 drama play by this versatile artist. Place Clichy (talk) 14:47, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

::Object. I have no issue with creating the subcategory, but the main SW is needed (for the future). Pl Wikipedia's equivalent is much better populated: :pl:Kategoria:Stanisław Wyspiański. There was a museum dedicated to him (now defunct), several monuments and a bunch of institutions named after him, including two awards, and pl wiki has a bio of his educator/caretaker :pl:Kazimierz Stankiewicz. Eventually, those articles will be translated and will populate our category. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:59, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

::* Note that categories are not supposed to contain articles just named after the subject. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
• Rename for Now Per nomination and truth in advertising. No objection to recreating this category if/when it has 5+ potential direct articles and passes WP:OCEPON. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 01:57, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:DYK templates to :Category:Wikipedia Did you know templates

:* Propose merging :Category:DYK/Templates to :Category:Wikipedia Did you know templates

:* Propose merging :Category:DYK/Template to :Category:Wikipedia Did you know templates

:Nominator's rationale: This tree is a mess. There are 4 categories here, all titled slightly different with largely overlapping pages and categories and no real clear distinction what does what. All content should be merged into one category. Gonnym (talk) 10:04, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

::Merge per nom. – SD0001 (talk) 13:39, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 01:56, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Engineers of Vietnamese descent to :Category:Vietnamese engineers

:Nominator's rationale: These people were all born in Vietnam. They are Vietnamese emigrants, not "of Vietnamese descent." Rathfelder (talk) 08:43, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 09:41, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 01:55, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Dualism to :Category:Dichotomies

:Nominator's rationale: merge, unclear how the scope of this category differs from the scope of the target, other than as a case of WP:SHAREDNAME. Note that in article space Dualism is a disambiguation page, we may likewise consider turning the category page into a category disambiguation page. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:41, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

• Merge Seems to be WP:SHAREDNAME in practice, especially given the lack of a main article to anchor this topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 11:30, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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