Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 July 16#Category:Societates Europaeae

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. The category name should follow the article. (non-admin closure) JBchrch talk 20:36, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Selknam (rugby union) players to :Category:Selknam players

:Nominator's rationale: No other team with the same name, so the new category for the players would not be ambiguous. Coco (talk) 23:36, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• Comment, Selknam is a disambiguation page. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:09, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
• Keep - convention is to follow the article Selknam (rugby union). Oculi (talk) 12:12, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose page for the rugby union team is Selknam (rugby union), therefore the players category should match that. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:16, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:09, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Societates Europaeae}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete Previous consensus, most recently at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 March 6#Category:Naamloze_vennootschappen, is that the corporate from is WP:NOTDEFINING for companies, the same reason we do not have :Category:Limited liability companies or similar. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:16, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:10, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Shopping malls in Constanța. qualifies as C2C speedy (non-admin closure) UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:21, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Shopping malls in Constanţa to :Category:Shopping malls in Constanța

:Nominator's rationale: Romanian does not use ţ, only ț. Super Ψ Dro 12:54, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:16, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Films about emotions}}

:Nominator's rationale: Category of unclear necessity, which isn't clearly differentiating its contents from other films in a defining way. Virtually all narrative fiction films (and even a significant percentage of documentaries) that exist at all are about people (or anthropomorphized animals) going through events or situations and having emotions about them -- meaning that the overwhelming majority of all films that exist at all are "about" emotions to some extent, and any "degree of aboutness" cutoff that attempted to determine whether or not any film is "about emotions" enough to warrant categorization here would be an arbitrary and subjective one. So this just isn't a useful category, because it doesn't clearly differentiate some films from other films.
I can defend the {{cl|Films about fear}} and {{cl|Films about grieving}} subcategories, both of which should be moved back to the {{cl|Films about mental states}} parent, but there's no point in categorizing films for being "about emotions" in general, because very few films aren't "about emotions" in some way. Bearcat (talk) 11:59, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom, but add :Category:Films about fear and :Category:Films about grieving as subcategories to :Category:Films about mental states. The latter category should become a container category, for the same reason. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:15, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:18, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Judeo-Tat theatre}}

:Nominator's rationale: delete, the current content largely overlaps with :Category:Judeo-Tat writers and it does not look like there are articles really about the theatre (apart from the eponymous article obviously). Marcocapelle (talk) 11:41, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

• Keep. I reorganized it a bit, as all the individual listed should've been contained in sub-categories and :Category:Judeo-Tat playwrights should've been in the category. However, as it stands currently the category contains the theatre itself, :Category:Actors and directors of the Judeo-Tat language theater (5 articles), and :Category:Judeo-Tat playwrights (7 articles) which is useful for navigation. The subcategories on the actors, directors, and playwrights certainly pertains to theatre in this language. --Mvqr (talk) 15:44, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:23, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

• The whole tree only contains three topic articles (Judeo-Tat, Judeo-Tat theatre and Judeo-Tat literature). The set-up is unnecessary complicated and merely hinders navigation. We might simply have a category with three articles and two subcategories of people by occupation (writers and directors). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:54, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
• :Reorganizing the tree is different than wholesale deletion which loses information as there wasn't a complete overlap. I could see a merge of most categories to :Category:Judeo-Tat, while keeping :Category:Judeo-Tat poets, :Category:Translators to Judeo-Tat, :Category:Judeo-Tat playwrights, :Category:Actors and directors of the Judeo-Tat language theater, and other people categories (if relevant) as subcategories.--Mvqr (talk) 11:47, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

::* That was exactly the intention behind the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:10, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

• Keep. Boxes12 (talk) 19:43, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
• :Hi @Boxes12, you should know that in these sorts of discussions !votes without any rationale are rarely taken into consideration by the closer. JBchrch talk 09:46, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Relisting to check whether there's consensus on Mvqr's proposition dated 11:47, 5 July 2022. Tagging Marcocapelle and Boxes12.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JBchrch talk 09:44, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:18, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Websites utilizing paywalls}}

:Nominator's rationale: While it might be nice to know, utilizing a paywall is not a defining characteristic of any of these websites (most of which are newspapers or magazines). There are thousands of academic journals also behind paywalls, and millions of free websites without paywalls. We don't (nor should we) categorize those as such. --Animalparty! (talk) 05:18, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

:Delete WP:NOTDEFINING, as the nominator points out. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:24, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 14:25, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:United States state Attorneys General navigational boxes to :Category:United States state attorneys general navigational boxes

:Nominator's rationale: Conforms to MOS:JOBTITLES and matches similar categories (i.e. :Category:State attorneys general in the United States and :Category:State attorneys general in the United States by state. Woko Sapien (talk) 01:12, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support per MOS:JOBTITLES or per 'United States state attorneys general' is not a job title. Oculi (talk) 12:27, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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