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==Category:Ottoman architecture in Algeria and Tunisia==

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== Category:PlayStation characters ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:25, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|PlayStation characters}}

:Nominator's rationale: There is no clear inclusion criteria for this category. If it is supposed to be any character that is associated with the PlayStation brand, then it likely fails WP:CATVER. We also already have :Category:Sony Interactive Entertainment characters for characters made by Sony. (Oinkers42) (talk) 04:40, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete per nom. Recently created category of unclear inclusion criteria by newish CIR-banned user. SnowFire (talk) 03:29, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:Disney protagonists ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:25, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Disney protagonists}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:INDISCRIMINATE, considering that any character in their 100 year history could be a protagonist in one film/show/game or another. (Oinkers42) (talk) 04:48, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Recently created category of unclear inclusion criteria by newish CIR-banned user. Note that I think that essentially all "Categorization by status as protagonist" is incorrect and should be deleted, but CFDs have failed on such grounds before; that said, don't let the sickness spread further. SnowFire (talk) 03:30, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:Ongoing events ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:25, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Ongoing events}}

:Nominator's rationale: Per {{u|Marcocapelle}}'s reasoning here: {{xt|it is never a good idea to categorize by something "ongoing" because it will end at some point of time}}. Possible issues relating to WP:RECENTISM. QueenofBithynia (talk) 18:23, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

::Since these five nominations share a common rationle and concern similar categories, they could have been bundled into one CfD. Definitely delete all based on the observation that unlike lists such as List of ongoing armed conflicts, category membership is prone to becoming outdated, since many articles on obscure topics don't get updated for years. And several current-events lists have been deleted at AfD for a similar reason, such as List of currently erupting volcanoes. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:19, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Support, the whole tree under :Category:Years mainly contains events so this is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:56, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Support We do not usually allow current/past distinctions in categories, because we cannot be sure things will be moved when they cease to be ongoing. The better solution is to place items in a 2022 category. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:26, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Support per nom --Lenticel (talk) 06:43, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose By this logic we must delete also :Category:Future events because it will be past events at some point of time. The whole :Category:Future is going to become past and we cannot be sure things would be moved when they become past.
  • And how category is "prone to become outdated" anymore than list? Lists contain less "obscure" topics?
  • I believe that :Category:Years contains all ongoing events but, given the size and structure of the tree, it would take hours to find them.--Maxaxa (talk) 18:37, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

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  • Support - redundant to {{cl|Current events}}. Oculi (talk) 18:27, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

:* That category also contains a number of questionable subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:46, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:Ongoing legal cases ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Ongoing legal cases}}

:Nominator's rationale: Per {{u|Marcocapelle}}'s reasoning here: {{xt|it is never a good idea to categorize by something "ongoing" because it will end at some point of time}}. Possible issues relating to WP:RECENTISM. QueenofBithynia (talk) 18:23, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

  • I suppose in the case law by year tree the articles are categorized based on the concluding year only (correct me if I am wrong). For that reason the nominated category might be kept as a maintenance category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Support We do not usually allow current/past distinctions in categories, because we cannot be sure things will be moved when they cease to be ongoing. This applies particularly because legal cases should be soon over. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:25, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Many different categories in Wikipedia (such as :Category:Living people) depend on a temporal distinction. These categories have to be, and most often are, updated in due course. A concentration of ongoing legal cases in a single category is useful for multiple purposes. To give just three examples, this category serves: (1) readers who are looking for a recent case, discussed in the news or some other forum, but are not certain of its precise details; (2) readers who are making their first steps in the law - whether as students or general-interest participants - and wish to read about present legal cases to understand the current operation of the law; (3) law students, and perhaps legal practitioners, who require a list of ongoing legal cases, from multiple jurisdictions - a feature that even well-established legal research platforms do not provide. In addition, contrary to Peterkingiron's comment, many legal cases are not over so quickly. Finally, Marcocapelle's comment, about maintaining the category as a maintenance category, can also be supported. A.R. (talk) 17:12, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:Ongoing protests ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Ongoing protests}}

:Nominator's rationale: Per {{u|Marcocapelle}}'s reasoning here: {{xt|it is never a good idea to categorize by something "ongoing" because it will end at some point of time}}. Possible issues relating to WP:RECENTISM. QueenofBithynia (talk) 18:23, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Support, protests are already categorized by year so this is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Support We do not usually allow current/past distinctions in categories, because we cannot be sure things will be moved when they cease to be ongoing. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Support per nom --Lenticel (talk) 01:57, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Collection: Many different categories in Wikipedia (such as :Category:Living people) depend on a temporal distinction. These categories have to be, and most often are, updated in due course. A concentration of ongoing protests in a single category is useful for multiple purposes. To give just three examples, this category serves: (1) readers who are looking for a recent protests, discussed in the news or some other forum, but are not certain of its precise details; (2) readers who are making their first steps in the sociology and law - whether as students or general-interest participants - and wish to read about present protests to understand the current operation of the case; (3) law and sociology students, and perhaps practitioners, who require a list of ongoing protests cases - a feature that even well-established legal research platforms do not provide. On the other hand, by this logic we must delete also :Category:Future events because it will be past events at some point of time. The whole :Category:Future is going to become past and we cannot be sure things would be moved when they become past.
  • And how category is "prone to become outdated" anymore than list? Lists contain less "obscure" topics?
  • I believe that :Category:Years contains all ongoing events but, given the size and structure of the tree, it would take hours to find them. --BoldLuis (talk) 10:10, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:Ongoing conflicts ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Ongoing conflicts}}

:Nominator's rationale: Per {{u|Marcocapelle}}'s reasoning here: {{xt|it is never a good idea to categorize by something "ongoing" because it will end at some point of time}}. Possible issues relating to WP:RECENTISM. QueenofBithynia (talk) 18:23, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Support, conflicts are already categorized by year so this is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Support We do not usually allow current/past distinctions in categories, because we cannot be sure things will be moved when they cease to be ongoing. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Support per nom --Lenticel (talk) 06:43, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Collection: Many different categories in Wikipedia (such as :Category:Living people) depend on a temporal distinction. These categories have to be, and most often are, updated in due course. A concentration of ongoing conflicts in a single category is useful for multiple purposes. To give just three examples, this category serves: (1) readers who are looking for a recent conflicts, discussed in the news or some other forum, but are not certain of its precise details; (2) readers who are making their first steps in the sociology and law - whether as students or general-interest participants - and wish to read about present conflicts to understand the current operation of the case; (3) law and sociology students, and perhaps practitioners, who require a list of ongoing conflict cases - a feature that even well-established legal research platforms do not provide. On the other hand, by this logic we must delete also :Category:Future events because it will be past events at some point of time. The whole :Category:Future is going to become past and we cannot be sure things would be moved when they become past.
  • And how category is "prone to become outdated" anymore than list? Lists contain less "obscure" topics?
  • I believe that :Category:Years contains all ongoing events but, given the size and structure of the tree, it would take hours to find them. --BoldLuis (talk) 10:10, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:Ongoing insurgencies ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:27, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Ongoing insurgencies}}

:Nominator's rationale: Per {{u|Marcocapelle}}'s reasoning here: {{xt|it is never a good idea to categorize by something "ongoing" because it will end at some point of time}}. Possible issues relating to WP:RECENTISM. QueenofBithynia (talk) 18:23, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Support, a better way would be to start a tree of insurgencies by decade. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:39, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Support We do not usually allow current/past distinctions in categories, because we cannot be sure things will be moved when they cease to be ongoing. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Support per nom --Lenticel (talk) 01:57, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Collection: Many different categories in Wikipedia (such as :Category:Living people) depend on a temporal distinction. These categories have to be, and most often are, updated in due course. A concentration of ongoing insurgencies in a single category is useful for multiple purposes. To give just three examples, this category serves: (1) readers who are looking for a recent insurgency, discussed in the news or some other forum, but are not certain of its precise details; (2) readers who are making their first steps in the sociology and law - whether as students or general-interest participants - and wish to read about present insurgencies to understand the current operation of the case; (3) law and sociology students, and perhaps practitioners, who require a list of ongoing insurgency cases - a feature that even well-established legal research platforms do not provide. On the other hand, by this logic we must delete also :Category:Future events because it will be past events at some point of time. The whole :Category:Future is going to become past and we cannot be sure things would be moved when they become past.
  • And how category is "prone to become outdated" anymore than list? Lists contain less "obscure" topics?
  • I believe that :Category:Years contains all ongoing events but, given the size and structure of the tree, it would take hours to find them. --BoldLuis (talk) 10:10, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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==Category:GAA people by province==

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== Muslim historians ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge per nom. bibliomaniac15 03:33, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting selectively merging :Category:Muslim historians to :Category:Historians of the medieval Islamic world

:* Propose merging :Category:Muslim historians of Al-Andalus to :Category:Scholars of Al-Andalus history :Category:Al-Andalus historians

:* Propose merging :Category:Muslim historians of the Ottoman Empire to :Category:Historians of the Ottoman Empire

:Nominator's rationale: delete/merge per WP:OCEGRS, trivial intersection between religion and occupation. We do not have :Category:Christian historians or :Category:Buddhist historians either. Most articles directly in :Category:Muslim historians are already somewhere in the tree of :Category:Historians of the medieval Islamic world as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:58, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

::* Updated target category for Al-Andalus. Al-Andalusi (talk) 07:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

::* Note: I created :Category:Scholars of Ottoman history and moved the articles for the modern specialists in Ottoman studies into it. This should address the concerns raised by Peterkingiron. Al-Andalusi (talk) 18:18, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

:* That does not really change things. We also not have :Category:Historians from Christian lands or :Category:Historians from Buddhist lands. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:17, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

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  • Further comment - If you do not like my suggestion, please suggest something better. We need to draw a distinction between medieval and early modern historians who become a source for contemporary writers of history and modern historians who happen to be Muslim. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:09, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

:* My suggestion is as nominated. We do not need a Muslim historians category as we also do not need Christian historians category. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:30, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

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:*{{ping|Peterkingiron}} see the new category :Category:Scholars of Ottoman history which mimics :Category:Scholars of Al-Andalus history and :Category:Scholars of medieval Islamic history. Al-Andalusi (talk) 18:21, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Most of the articles in :Category:Muslim historians category are about medieval historians, so a better solution is selectively merging to :Category:Historians of the medieval Islamic world, I have changed the nomination accordingly. A modern scholar like Bai Shouyi should be purged however (the article is not even clear on whether he was still a Muslim while he was a historian). If the category would be kept it would become especially awkward when articles would be added about modern Muslim historians who write about the history of e.g. England. So far that has not happened yet, but the category title does not exclude that possibility. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:20, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Merge per nom. Do not think religious status of historians is something that should be highlighted - can lead to bad places like discounting work because it's not the "right" religion. (Yes, :Category:Jewish historians exists and is also a bit problematic, but that's officially categorization by ethnic group and not religion.) SnowFire (talk) 03:34, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

:Merge per nom, and the comments above. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:51, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:Fight Club (franchise) ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Fight Club. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:28, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Fight Club (franchise)}}

:Nominator's rationale: No published sources discuss the series of books and one film as a "franchise". Binksternet (talk) 17:35, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep, the category contains articles about the same subject in different media (film, novel, comics, video game), that makes it a franchise category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:13, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

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  • Rename to :Category:Fight Club. 7 valid and distinct articles is just about enough to warrant a category. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:03, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
  • (voted earlier) I have no issue with a rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:39, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Big Bang Entertainments ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:15, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete per nom. Oculi (talk) 19:26, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete as per nom. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:04, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:British viceroys educated at Eton College ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as an example of overcategorization. The articles here should already be categorized according to their occupations. bibliomaniac15 03:42, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:British viceroys educated at Eton College to :Category:Viceroys of the British monarch educated at Eton College

:Nominator's rationale: per parent {{cl|Viceroys of the British monarch}}. While this would be a speedy, an alternative is to upmerge to its parents: it is no great surprise that a member of the British establishment went to Eton, no doubt following his father there. Can we expect {{cl|People educated at Eton College whose father was educated at Eton College}}? Oculi (talk) 01:55, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

  • The great majority of these are not "viceroys" AT ALL, but governors of Gibraltar, Kenya etc. As Viceroy#British_Empire makes very clear, only governors of India and Ireland, at various points in the 19th century, were ever referred to as the "viceroy". Merge most to :Category:British colonial governors and administrators. The parent "Viceroys of the British monarch" should be urgently renamed too. How have we had this nonsense since 2007? The Etonians should be non-diffusing, or merged back to the main cat. Johnbod (talk) 04:31, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Merge somehow, I can see that the parent category is too large, but a by-century split would be far more natural than a split by a later occupation that people did not have yet when they were studying at this school. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
  • :The point of going to these schools is to ensure a prestigious occupation. It clearly does. Rathfelder (talk) 10:56, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

::* Categories are not meant to make a point. Besides the existence of the category does not even make the point you describe. The fact that some governors were educated at Eton does not prove that there is a correlation. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:39, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

  • No objection to renaming. I thought some of them might be viceroys of other countries, but they dont seem to be. Viceroys seemss to be the generic term for a wide range of posts with different names. This categorisation seems a lot more significant to these people's careers than recording where they were born. Rathfelder (talk) 07:48, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

:::No "viceroy" ISN'T "the generic term for a wide range of posts with different names" AT ALL!! Evidence for this? It would be "colonial governor" or "colonial administrator" (for British ones). Johnbod (talk) 17:43, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

:::::Category:Viceroys is the superior category for :Category:Representatives of the British monarch. Rathfelder (talk) 17:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

::::::Yes, and that's a mistake. The whole "viceroy" tree is infected, and should be renamed. Every diplomat is a "representative" of their "principal". But at least the situation in the British Empire is clear enough, and we should use the correct terms. Johnbod (talk) 18:10, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep -- The name is long enough already. It is unfortunate that the parent is called "viceroys" when that title was only used for the ruler of India. The rest of the content relates to Governors-General, Colonial Governors, etc. Spain had viceroys in Spanish America. I cannot think of the term being used much elsewhere. The possibility of a person other than a British subject (including Commonwealth) being the local governing representative of the British crown is remote, so that the present name is not misleading. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:02, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

:::Yes, mostly, but the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland was at least informally called the Viceroy, mostly in the 19th century I think. Johnbod (talk) 17:43, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

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  • Merge or Delete. This intersection of school and occupation is pure overcategorisation. Another problem is that in many cases it highlights one particular part of an individual's career over the others. Note that most of these individuals will already be in the specific category for their governorship(s) so in most cases a merge to :Category:British colonial governors and administrators will be unnecessary. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:53, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Merge or delete, like the rest of these intersections. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:54, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:ICC T20 World Cup Qualifier ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename WP:C2C and C2D. – Fayenatic London 22:36, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:ICC T20 World Cup Qualifier to :Category:ICC Men's T20 World Cup Qualifier

:Nominator's rationale: Due to the renaming in the phrase of the tournament in 2018, already 2022 tournament category page renamed for this reason. Also women's tournament evolving simultaneously and accurate title name phrasing could be inevitable among articles and categories. Kirubar (talk) 16:18, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:ICC T20 World Cup-related lists ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename WP:C2C and C2D. – Fayenatic London 22:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:ICC T20 World Cup-related lists to :Category:ICC Men's T20 World Cup related lists

:Nominator's rationale: Due to the renaming in the phrase of the tournament in 2018, already 2022 tournament category page renamed for this reason. Also women's tournament evolving simultaneously and accurate title name phrasing could be inevitable among articles and categories. Kirubar (talk) 16:17, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:ICC T20 World Cup tournaments ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename WP:C2C and C2D. – Fayenatic London 22:38, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:ICC T20 World Cup tournaments to :Category:ICC Men's T20 World Cup tournaments

:Nominator's rationale: Due to the renaming in the phrase of the tournament in 2018, already 2022 tournament category page renamed for this reason. Also women's tournament evolving simultaneously and accurate title name phrasing could be inevitable among articles and categories. Kirubar (talk) 16:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:ICC T20 World Cup squads ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename WP:C2C and C2D. – Fayenatic London 22:38, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:ICC T20 World Cup squads to :Category:ICC Men's T20 World Cup squads

:Nominator's rationale: Due to the renaming in the phrase of the tournament in 2018, already 2022 tournament category page renamed for this reason. Kirubar (talk) 16:13, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:ICC T20 World Cup Finals ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename. WP:C2C and C2D. – Fayenatic London 22:39, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:ICC T20 World Cup Finals to :Category:ICC Men's T20 World Cup Finals

:Nominator's rationale: Due to the renaming in the phrase of the tournament in 2018, already 2022 tournament category page renamed for this reason. Kirubar (talk) 16:12, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:Polish-American Roman Catholic parishes in Brooklyn ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:14, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Polish-American Roman Catholic parishes in Brooklyn to :Category:Polish-American Roman Catholic parishes in the United States

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge, unnecessary category with only one member page and only one parent. The member page is already in another Brooklyn churches category. – Fayenatic London 16:08, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Medicine by caliphate ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:14, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Medicine in the medieval Islamic world by state}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Science in the Fatimid Caliphate}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Science in the Umayyad Caliphate}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Medicine in the Fatimid Caliphate}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Medicine in the Umayyad Caliphate}}

:Nominator's rationale: These are unnecessary category layers, containing only sub-cats for physicians, which are already within the ultimate parents via :Category:Physicians of the medieval Islamic world. – Fayenatic London 12:52, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:29, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Support at the bottom of Science in the Fatimid Caliphate, I found one man described as a mathematician, astronomer and physicist, Ibn al-Haytham, who is well-categorised already. All the rest seemed to be medics. The tree needs a lot of simplification. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:15, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:Singlechart called without song ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:14, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Singlechart called without song to :Category:Single chart called without song

:Nominator's rationale: Parent template was renamed Template:Single chart in the past. Category should match template name. (Surprised I could not find a WP:CFD/S criterion for this.) Steel1943 (talk) 07:01, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment - none of :Category:Singlechart usages has been changed. Oculi (talk) 13:00, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
  • :{{Ping|Oculi}} Good find. I just found one of the ... many. Didn't realize such a change affected that many categories. Steel1943 (talk) 16:54, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Support: I was wondering why all these "singlechart" categories haven't been renamed. I think it's time we start working on that. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 17:07, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment: If this category is moved, Template:Single chart will need to be updated since it links to the current title of the category. Steel1943 (talk) 17:40, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Support: I support all of those being renamed, but I think you will need to create a new discussion for this. --Muhandes (talk) 12:05, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:Civilization museums ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete and disperse. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:13, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Civilization museums}}

:Nominator's rationale: delete, civilization museum seems a made-up type of museum. Disperse the content to the tree of :Category:History museums insofar it is not already there. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Category:Heads of state of Egypt ==

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:12, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Heads of state of Egypt to :Category:Rulers of Egypt

:Nominator's rationale: procedural nomination, suggested by User:Oculi in a different discussion and I would rather split the different suggestions to separate discussions. The rename would allow :Category:Governors of Egypt (after the split as proposed below) to become an additional subcategory. Personally I am not thrilled by the suggestion, as it would break the tree of :Category:Heads of state by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:53, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

:* That resolves my initial concern, obviously, but adds another category layer which isn't quite necessary imho. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:31, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

:** There are for example :Category:Rulers of Ethiopia and :Category:Rulers of Crete inter alia - the layer already exists. Oculi (talk) 14:53, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Withdraw, apparently I misunderstood Oculi's intention. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

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==Category:Governors of Egypt==

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