Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 16#Architecture by country

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:41, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Fictional extraterrestrial royalty}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Fictional extraterrestrial princesses}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:NARROWCAT. Too narrow an intersection between ET's and royalty for a category to be needed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:00, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

• Delete as WP:NARROWCAT and WP:OVERCAT. Not enough notable articles for this grouping to be necessary. Jontesta (talk) 21:44, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
• Weak keep Can easily be expanded, e.g. King Dedede does not belong in either subcategory, and the two current subcategories respectively contain 42 pages, so it is not WP:SMALLCAT. It is unclear, however, if NARROWCAT still applies as an intersection that does not warrant splitting. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:11, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support the first in principle, as a redundant category layer with only two subcategories, but merge to :Category:Fictional extraterrestrial characters rather than straight delete. I am not so sure about the second, if not kept at least merge to :Category:Fictional extraterrestrial characters and :Category:Fictional princesses. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

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• Keep - surely fictional extraterrestrial royalty is not limited to emperors and princesses. In any case the nom should be 'upmerge to all parents', not delete. Oculi (talk) 10:02, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

:* By coincidence the first category does not need to be merged to :Category:Fictional royalty because the two subcats already are already in other parts of that tree. A merge to :Category:Fictional extraterrestrial characters suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:24, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

• Keep I see no relevance of OVERCAT here, and Oculi has already pointed to scope for expansion. Dimadick (talk) 14:03, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (option B). (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:44, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Frogs in culture to :Category:Frogs and toads in culture

:* Propose renaming :Category:Frogs in art to :Category:Frogs and toads in art

:* Propose renaming :Category:Films about frogs to :Category:Films about frogs and toads

:* Propose renaming :Category:Frog mascots to :Category:Frog and toad mascots

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rabbit mascots to :Category:Rabbit and hare mascots

:Nominator's rationale: To match some other existing categories in the surrounding hierarchies. The last four were tagged by user:Ali17082001 in August without starting a discussion. – Fayenatic London 21:24, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

• Comment, instead we might rename the surrounding "frogs and toads" categories to just "frogs". At least there should be some consistency. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:02, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
• Comment Toad is just a common name used for various families of frogs, based on a perceived similarity in their appearance. They are not a distinct taxonomic group. Dimadick (talk) 13:58, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

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• Rename any 'frogs and toads' categories to 'frogs' and create 'toads' subcats if necessary, as {{cl|Toads}} is a subcat of {{cl|Frogs}}. Support the last one as :Category:Leporidae corresponds to 'rabbits and hares'. Oculi (talk) 01:06, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

:OK, here's Option B:

:* Propose renaming :Category:Books about frogs and toads to :Category:Books about frogs

:* Propose renaming :Category:Television series about frogs and toads to :Category:Television series about frogs

:* Propose renaming :Category:Animated television series about frogs and toads to :Category:Animated television series about frogs

:* Propose renaming :Category:Fictional frogs and toads to :Category:Fictional frogs

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rabbit mascots to :Category:Rabbit and hare mascots

: – Fayenatic London 22:08, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

• Support option B, the usage of "toads" in the category name is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Imperial Academy of Arts academic personnel. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:47, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Professors by rank of the Academy of Arts to :Category:Professors of the Academy of Arts

:Nominator's rationale: This category relates to the Imperial Academy of Arts. I cant see what "by rank" signifies, but perhaps I'm missing something. Rathfelder (talk) 21:40, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

• Rename but to {{cl|Imperial Academy of Arts faculty}} (assuming this is what they are - it should be in :Category:Faculty by university or college in Russia). We don't have a 'Professors' tree. Oculi (talk) 22:06, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
• Alt rename per Oculi, a matter of WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:59, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
• Should it not actually be :Category:Imperial Academy of Arts academic personnel now? Rathfelder (talk) 20:23, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

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• Yes, it should probably now be Alt2: :Category:Imperial Academy of Arts academic personnel, per the renamed :Category:Academic personnel by university or college in Russia. Oculi (talk) 21:35, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
• Alt2 rename to :Category:Imperial Academy of Arts academic personnel, per more recent precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:38, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:48, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Categories by raion of Ukraine to :Category:Populated places by second-level administrative subdivision

:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer, most categories by raion have been upmerged in previous CfD discussions. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:59, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

::Support per nom. Privybst (talk) 16:37, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:49, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Austria to :Category:Rococo architecture in Austria

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Belgium to :Category:Rococo architecture in Belgium

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Brazil to :Category:Rococo architecture in Brazil

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of the Czech Republic to :Category:Rococo architecture in the Czech Republic

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Denmark to :Category:Rococo architecture in Denmark

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of England to :Category:Rococo architecture in England

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Germany to :Category:Rococo architecture in Germany

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Italy to :Category:Rococo architecture in Italy

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Norway to :Category:Rococo architecture in Norway

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Peru to :Category:Rococo architecture in Peru (over redirect)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Poland to :Category:Rococo architecture in Poland (over redirect)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Portugal to :Category:Rococo architecture in Portugal

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Spain to :Category:Rococo architecture in Spain

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Russia to :Category:Rococo architecture in Russia

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Slovakia to :Category:Rococo architecture in Slovakia

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Turkey to :Category:Rococo architecture in Turkey

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rococo architecture of Ukraine to :Category:Rococo architecture in Ukraine

:Nominator's rationale: All other styles by country use "in". – Fayenatic London 13:51, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

• Support all per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:22, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
• Speedy rename per C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:13, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support all per nom. --Privybst (talk) 16:37, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:50, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Moldovan National Division seasons to :Category:Moldovan Super Liga seasons

:Nominator's rationale: C2D. The league has been renamed. Sørhaug (talk) 10:30, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 14:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom - but why is not at WP:CFDS? GiantSnowman 14:54, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
• :@GiantSnowman That's where I tried to put them, but apparently I chose the wrong option in Twinkle. Sørhaug (talk) 11:03, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
• :: I think Twinkle doesn't work for speedy category renames. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
• Speedy rename per nom, C2D. As this was intended for the speedy section, this could be done immediately (as it's been more than 48 since proposed, and no objections). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:50, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Moldovan National Division players to :Category:Moldovan Super Liga players

:Nominator's rationale: C2D. The league has been renamed. Sørhaug (talk) 10:28, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

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• Support per nom - but why is not at WP:CFDS? GiantSnowman 14:54, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:51, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Moldovan National Division managers to :Category:Moldovan Super Liga managers

:Nominator's rationale: C2D. The league has been renamed. Sørhaug (talk) 10:28, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 14:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom - but why is not at WP:CFDS? GiantSnowman 14:54, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:51, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Moldovan National Division to :Category:Moldovan Super Liga

:Nominator's rationale: C2D. The league has been renamed. Sørhaug (talk) 10:27, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 14:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom - but why is not at WP:CFDS? GiantSnowman 14:53, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:51, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:1911 establishments in Lebanon to :Category:1911 establishments in Ottoman Syria

:Nominator's rationale: merge, Lebanon did not exist yet before 1920 and we do not have a category tree by year for Lebanon before 1920. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:37, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

:: Support, correct action. --Egeymi (talk) 09:09, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom. --Privybst (talk) 16:37, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:52, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:NASCAR races at Dover International Speedway to :Category:NASCAR races at Dover Motor Speedway

:Nominator's rationale: Track has not used the name "Dover International Speedway" in almost a year; has renamed to Dover Motor Speedway since being purchased by Speedway Motorsports, Inc. Nascar9919 (talk) 05:14, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

• Support meets speedy criteria C2D, as Dover Motor Speedway is main article name. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:49, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: soft delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:56, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting:

• :Category:Architecture of Abkhazia
• :Category:Architecture of the Bahamas

{{collapse top|50 more categories}}

• :Category:Architecture of Bahrain
• :Category:Architecture of Botswana
• :Category:Architecture of Burundi
• :Category:Architecture of the Central African Republic
• :Category:Architecture of Chad
• :Category:Architecture of the Comoros
• :Category:Architecture of the Democratic Republic of the Congo
• :Category:Architecture of Czechoslovakia
• :Category:Architecture of Djibouti
• :Category:Architecture of East Timor
• :Category:Architecture of Eritrea
• :Category:Architecture of Eswatini
• :Category:Architecture of Gabon
• :Category:Architecture of the Gambia
• :Category:Architecture of Grenada
• :Category:Architecture of Guinea
• :Category:Architecture of Guinea-Bissau
• :Category:Architecture of Guyana
• :Category:Architecture of Kazakhstan
• :Category:Architecture of Kiribati
• :Category:Architecture of Kyrgyzstan
• :Category:Architecture of Lesotho
• :Category:Architecture of Liberia
• :Category:Architecture of the Maldives
• :Category:Architecture of the Marshall Islands
• :Category:Architecture of Mauritania
• :Category:Architecture of the Federated States of Micronesia
• :Category:Architecture of Montserrat
• :Category:Architecture of Nauru
• :Category:Architecture of Nicaragua
• :Category:Architecture of Northern Cyprus
• :Category:Architecture of Papua New Guinea
• :Category:Architecture of Qatar
• :Category:Architecture of Rwanda
• :Category:Architecture of Saint Lucia
• :Category:Architecture of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
• :Category:Architecture of San Marino
• :Category:Architecture of Seychelles
• :Category:Architecture of Sierra Leone
• :Category:Architecture of the Solomon Islands
• :Category:Architecture of South Sudan
• :Category:Architecture of Suriname
• :Category:Architecture of Tajikistan
• :Category:Architecture of Tonga
• :Category:Architecture of Transnistria
• :Category:Architecture of Turkmenistan
• :Category:Architecture of Tuvalu
• :Category:Architecture of Vanuatu
• :Category:Architecture of Western Sahara
• :Category:Architecture of Zambia

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:Nominator's rationale: these each contain only a "Buildings and structures" sub-category. Those are already contained within :Category:Architecture by country via :Category:Buildings and structures by country. WP:SOFTDELETE until there is at least one more thing to put in them, e.g. an article on Architecture in Foo, or a sub-cat of Fooian architects. If not deleted, rename using "in" as above. – Fayenatic London 10:54, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

• Support soft deletion, for now it is a redundant category layer. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:00, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support other than Czechoslovakia, which has architects. The others do not: see User:Oculi/sandbox3. Oculi (talk) 17:59, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

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