Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 April 10

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. Disputes about the title of New towns in the United Kingdom and similar articles should be addressed separately at RM, after which the moves of associated categories can be revisited. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:26, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

:*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities to :Category:Planned communities

::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities by country to :Category:Planned communities by country

:::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in Australia to :Category:Planned communities in Australia

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Bangladesh to :Category:Planned communities in Bangladesh

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Brazil to :Category:Planned communities in Brazil

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Cambodia to :Category:Planned communities in Cambodia

:::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in Canada to :Category:Planned communities in Canada

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in China to :Category:Planned communities in China

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Greece to :Category:Planned communities in Greece

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Hungary to :Category:Planned communities in Hungary

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:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in India to :Category:Planned communities in India

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned townships in Indonesia to :Category:Planned communities in Indonesia

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Iran to :Category:Planned communities in Iran

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Israel to :Category:Planned communities in Israel

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Italy to :Category:Planned communities in Italy

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Japan to :Category:Planned communities in Japan

:::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in Malaysia to :Category:Planned communities in Malaysia

:::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in Nigeria to :Category:Planned communities in Nigeria

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Pakistan to :Category:Planned communities in Pakistan

:::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in the Philippines to :Category:Planned communities in the Philippines

:::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in Poland to :Category:Planned communities in Poland

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Qatar to :Category:Planned communities in Qatar

:::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in Romania to :Category:Planned communities in Romania

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Saudi Arabia to :Category:Planned communities in Saudi Arabia

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in South Korea to :Category:Planned communities in South Korea

:::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in Spain to :Category:Planned communities in Spain

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Sweden to :Category:Planned communities in Sweden

:::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in Taiwan to :Category:Planned communities in Taiwan

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in Turkey to :Category:Planned communities in Turkey

:::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in Ukraine to :Category:Planned communities in Ukraine

:::*Propose renaming :Category:Planned cities in the United Arab Emirates to :Category:Planned communities in the United Arab Emirates

:::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in the United Kingdom to :Category:Planned communities in the United Kingdom

::::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in Scotland to :Category:Planned communities in Scotland

:::*Propose merging :Category:Planned cities in the United States to :Category:Planned communities in the United States

:*Propose merging :Category:New towns to :Category:Planned communities

::*Propose renaming :Category:New towns in Egypt to :Category:Planned communities in Egypt

::*Propose renaming :Category:New towns in France to :Category:Planned communities in France

::*Propose renaming :Category:New towns in Hong Kong to :Category:Planned communities in Hong Kong

::*Propose merging :Category:New towns in Ireland to :Category:Planned communities in Ireland

:::*Propose merging :Category:New towns in the Republic of Ireland to :Category:Planned communities in the Republic of Ireland

::*Propose renaming :Category:New towns in Japan to :Category:Planned communities in Japan

::*Propose renaming :Category:New towns in Singapore to :Category:Planned communities in Singapore

::*Propose renaming :Category:New towns in South Korea to :Category:Planned communities in South Korea

::*Propose merging :Category:New towns in Taiwan to :Category:Planned communities in Taiwan

::*Propose merging :Category:New towns in the United Kingdom to :Category:Planned communities in the United Kingdom

:::*Propose merging :Category:New towns in England to :Category:Planned communities in England

:::*Propose merging :Category:New towns in Northern Ireland to :Category:Planned communities in Northern Ireland

:::*Propose merging :Category:New towns in Scotland to :Category:Planned communities in Scotland

:::*Propose merging :Category:New towns in Wales to :Category:Planned communities in Wales

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:Nominator's rationale: Fallout from discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_April_6#Category:New_towns_in_Egypt. There is no defined difference between New town, Planned city, and Planned community (Planned community is the accepted name for the article). Merge the split trees to a common branch. WP:OVERLAPCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:09, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

• {{ping|PalauanReich|Marcocapelle|Namiba|RevelationDirect|William Allen Simpson|Ypedia1|Nederlandse Leeuw}} pinging members of prior discussion. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:11, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support all top level merging, and conceptually support renaming, in order to bring it all together in one tree. Though I am open to local variations (e.g. per WP:ENGVAR). Marcocapelle (talk) 19:25, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

:* Further comment: per discussion below, the categories of Hong Kong, Singapore and the UK may well be kept, as a local variation. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

• I support all except we should rename the Egyptian ones to Egyptian New Cities. The cities in that category are specifically the NUCA ones and they are official called “New Cities”. The website for them is newcities.gov.eg. PalauanReich 20:03, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support with thanks for the effort — contra Marcocapelle and PalauanReich, I'm less open to local variations especially poor official translations.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 20:06, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Wow, great work! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:24, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support Most/Oppose UK & HK Ones For Now Support per WP:C2D to match the main article. There are two specific main articles though (New towns in the United Kingdom & New towns of Hong Kong so we should not rename UK (including England, Whales, Scotland & Northern Ireland) and Hong Kong subcats. Not sure if this is a true WP:ENGVAR or just non-standard naming but either way those should go through an WP:RM on those articles not CFD. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:27, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• :Not merely WP:ENGVAR, it is "London"-var. It was based on the name of a specific parliamentary act, and only used in London.
• :#When I was studying urban planning in the 1970s in the US, the London term had fallen out of favor.
• :#When I visited Scotland in 1993, the locals were nearly up in arms about the "London parliament" (or "English parliament" with English dripping with scorn) taking over housing control from local councils; that and independence was all anybody talked (to me) about on trains and busses. (Then my relatives had me visit Culloden. Nobody had taught me about the Battle of Culloden, even though our house had a Fraser coat of arms at the front door.)
• :#Hong Kong planning didn't start as "New towns"; the article says that term was only used "{{tq|In the late 1960s and the 1970s}}". It was different earlier and is different currently. So planned communities is a better fit.
• ::William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:23, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

:::*Those are all potential arguments for renaming the articles in an WP:RM, after which these categories could be speedily renamed per WP:C2D. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:26, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

• Unsure for most. Oppose for Singapore. There is New towns of Singapore article, and it is known as 'new town' rather than 'planned communities' in Singapore. – robertsky (talk) 08:32, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• :The Singapore article is badly named. "New town" is a retronym based on the London planning term, was not originally applied to the first (Queenstown), and not applied to the latest (translated "forest" town). Stop trying to make all english translation into London jargon.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:48, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• ::Whatever happened in London is something that is beyond Singapore. Within Singapore, all planned urban areas are called known as towns [https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-divided-into-16-towns-two-new-town-councils-created], even the latest urbanisation that was started from 2020ish at Tegnah [https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/hdb-eco-town-climate-change-sustainable-living-2225686]. – robertsky (talk) 15:46, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support as proposed. Thank you Aidan721 for following up on this.--User:Namiba 11:27, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose -- I would prefer :Category:Planned settlements to avoid the complication of what is a city/town/village. The UK (and some others) should not be renamed at all. They were created under the New Towns Act and so should remain "towns". I would be guided by those with local knowledge as to HK and Singapore. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:20, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
• :Amusing, as {{la|Planned settlement}} was created as a redirect since 2007. The chosen term has been "planned community" since 2012.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:40, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1890s heat waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1896 heat waves to :Category:1896 natural disasters, :Category:1896 meteorology and :Category:19th-century heat waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1900s heat waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1906 heat waves to :Category:1906 natural disasters, :Category:1906 meteorology and :Category:20th-century heat waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1910s heat waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1911 heat waves to :Category:1911 natural disasters, :Category:1911 meteorology and :Category:20th-century heat waves

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:*Propose deleting {{lc|1930s heat waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1936 heat waves to :Category:1936 natural disasters, :Category:1936 meteorology and :Category:20th-century heat waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1950s heat waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1955 heat waves to :Category:1955 natural disasters, :Category:1955 meteorology and :Category:20th-century heat waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1970s heat waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1976 heat waves to :Category:1976 natural disasters, :Category:1976 meteorology and :Category:20th-century heat waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1980s heat waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1980 heat waves to :Category:1980 natural disasters, :Category:1980 meteorology and :Category:20th-century heat waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1983 heat waves to :Category:1983 natural disasters, :Category:1983 meteorology and :Category:20th-century heat waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1988 heat waves to :Category:1988 natural disasters, :Category:1988 meteorology and :Category:20th-century heat waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1989 heat waves to :Category:1989 natural disasters, :Category:1989 meteorology and :Category:20th-century heat waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1990s heat waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1990 heat waves to :Category:1990 natural disasters, :Category:1990 meteorology and :Category:20th-century heat waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1995 heat waves to :Category:1995 natural disasters, :Category:1995 meteorology and :Category:20th-century heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2000 heat waves to :Category:2000 natural disasters, :Category:2000 meteorology and :Category:2000s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2001 heat waves to :Category:2001 natural disasters, :Category:2001 meteorology and :Category:2000s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2002 heat waves to :Category:2002 natural disasters, :Category:2002 meteorology and :Category:2000s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2003 heat waves to :Category:2003 natural disasters, :Category:2003 meteorology and :Category:2000s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2006 heat waves to :Category:2006 natural disasters, :Category:2006 meteorology and :Category:2000s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2007 heat waves to :Category:2007 natural disasters, :Category:2007 meteorology and :Category:2000s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2009 heat waves to :Category:2009 natural disasters, :Category:2009 meteorology and :Category:2000s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2010 heat waves to :Category:2010 natural disasters, :Category:2010 meteorology and :Category:2010s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2011 heat waves to :Category:2011 natural disasters, :Category:2011 meteorology and :Category:2010s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2012 heat waves to :Category:2012 natural disasters, :Category:2012 meteorology and :Category:2010s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2013 heat waves to :Category:2013 natural disasters, :Category:2013 meteorology and :Category:2010s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2014 heat waves to :Category:2014 natural disasters, :Category:2014 meteorology and :Category:2010s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2015 heat waves to :Category:2015 natural disasters, :Category:2015 meteorology and :Category:2010s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2016 heat waves to :Category:2016 natural disasters, :Category:2016 meteorology and :Category:2010s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2017 heat waves to :Category:2017 natural disasters, :Category:2017 meteorology and :Category:2010s heat waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2019 heat waves to :Category:2019 natural disasters, :Category:2019 meteorology and :Category:2010s heat waves

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:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. 1-2 articles per year does not suffice this tree. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:21, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:32, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support A whole tree of nearly empty categories is not part of "a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:29, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. G5. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:39, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Charles Chinedu Ndukauba}}

:Nominator's rationale: The actor is not notable enough to merit an article, so does not require a category. Certes (talk) 16:57, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

::I just noticed WP:Articles for deletion/Charles Chinedu Ndukauba for the matching article (now salted following repeated deletion). Certes (talk) 09:37, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:59, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Withdraw: category now deleted: creator revealed as a sock. Certes (talk) 16:19, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:38, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:1666 fires to :Category:17th-century fires and :Category:1666 disasters

:* Propose merging :Category:1681 fires to :Category:17th-century fires and :Category:1681 disasters

:* Propose merging :Category:1689 fires to :Category:17th-century fires and :Category:1689 disasters

:Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated 1- or 2-item categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:39, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:16, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:37, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:1681 disasters in Europe to :Category:1681 disasters

:Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated single-article category. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:35, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:17, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:37, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Fusion night vision devices to :Category:Night vision devices

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 16:08, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:45, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Comment I don't have as much experience in this realm (category maintenance) so I'm not sure. I have a few articles on fusion night vision devices partly written that I mean to publish including the envg-b and the E-COTI. Fusion is kinda the next step forward for night vision but it's still in its infancy. Looking at WP:SMALLCAT, I think this category has potential for growth as the technology progresses but I understand if it's best to merge it back in for now. Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 00:01, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• Merge as nominated. The only entry is not a fusion device. It is 2 technologies. "Fusion" is not mentioned in the article.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:33, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: No Consensus - As this has been open almost a month, I don't see a point in relisting for more comment at this stage. Feel free to (re-)nominate one or both of these categories at editorial discretion. - jc37 09:58, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Cold War rebellions to :Category:Cold War conflicts

:Nominator's rationale: Almost all Cold War conflicts were either rebellions or began as rebellions. Unless a clear criteria can be established I think we should merge this category into :Category:Cold War conflicts. Charles Essie (talk) 16:01, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

• Just delete, it requires too much subjective editor judgment to determine how much these rebellions are related with the Cold War. We already have less ambiguous categories like :Category:Anti-communist resistance movements in Eastern Europe. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:57, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• :{{strikethrough|A merger is better because there are many Cold War conflicts not included in the eponymous category. If it makes it easier, I'll shrink this category by removing content that only needs to be in its subcategories.}} Charles Essie (talk) 17:46, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• :If we're going to just delete it we should make sure that the conflicts inside it are moved to :Category:Cold War conflicts. Charles Essie (talk) 15:34, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
• :*That's the very meaning of merge.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per Marcocapelle — current contents has little to do with the Cold War other than contemporaneously.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
• Further comment, we should delete :Category:Cold War conflicts too. Apart from the Berlin Blockade and the Cuban Missile Crisis it is entirely subjective. I will nominate that one when this discussion is closed. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:59, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
• :I couldn't disagree more so I'll definitely participate in that discussion. Charles Essie (talk) 01:40, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
• Close, it's been over a week since the last reply and no one has expressed opposition to getting rid of :Category:Cold War rebellions. I think we can proceed. Charles Essie (talk) 05:05, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:36, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1780s floods}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1789 floods to :Category:1789 natural disasters and :Category:18th-century floods

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1810s floods}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1814 floods to :Category:1814 natural disasters and :Category:19th-century floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1821 floods to :Category:1821 natural disasters and :Category:1820s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1824 floods to :Category:1824 natural disasters and :Category:1820s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1825 floods to :Category:1825 natural disasters and :Category:1820s floods

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:*Propose merging :Category:1829 floods to :Category:1829 natural disasters and :Category:1820s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1844 floods to :Category:1844 natural disasters and :Category:1840s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1849 floods to :Category:1849 natural disasters and :Category:1840s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1851 floods to :Category:1851 natural disasters and :Category:1850s floods

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:*Propose merging :Category:1872 floods to :Category:1872 natural disasters and :Category:1870s floods

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:*Propose merging :Category:1881 floods to :Category:1881 natural disasters and :Category:1880s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1889 floods to :Category:1889 natural disasters and :Category:1880s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1892 floods to :Category:1892 natural disasters and :Category:1890s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1893 floods to :Category:1893 natural disasters and :Category:1890s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1897 floods to :Category:1897 natural disasters and :Category:1890s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1900 floods to :Category:1900 natural disasters and :Category:1900s floods

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:*Propose merging :Category:1913 floods to :Category:1913 natural disasters and :Category:1910s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1916 floods to :Category:1916 natural disasters and :Category:1910s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1924 floods to :Category:1924 natural disasters and :Category:1920s floods

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:*Propose merging :Category:1986 floods to :Category:1986 natural disasters and :Category:1980s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1987 floods to :Category:1987 natural disasters and :Category:1980s floods

:*Propose merging :Category:1988 floods to :Category:1988 natural disasters and :Category:1980s floods

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:Nominator's rationale: Continued proposal of Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_March_26#Floods_by_year. Not enough floods per year prior to 1990s to warrant these categories. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Early Germanic peoples without rename as resolved during discussion. (non-admin closure) William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:10, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Germanic tribes to :Category:Ancient Germanic peoples

:** Alt 1: upmerge :Category:Germanic tribes to :Category:Early Germanic peoples and rename to :Category:Ancient Germanic peoples

:** Alt 2: upmerge :Category:Germanic tribes AND :Category:Early Germanic peoples to :Category:Historical Germanic peoples

:Nominator's rationale: WP:C2D List of Germanic tribes redirects to List of ancient Germanic peoples List of early Germanic peoples. (:Category:Ancient Germanic peoples currently redirects to :Category:Germanic tribes.)

:Alt 1 rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT: they cover the same subject + WP:C2D: List of ancient Germanic peoples List of early Germanic peoples is the main article of :Category:Early Germanic peoples.

:Alt 2 rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT: they cover the same subject. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:33, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

::PS: My argument is purely technical, but there are also some semantics involved that could lead to still other alternative proposals.

::* "Early Germanic" has the advantage of not having to comply to the periodisations of "ancient" to pre-500 CE and "medieval" to 500–1500 CE. Since the category tree includes Early Germanic culture, Early Germanic warfare and Viking Age Norsemen (all up to the 10th/11th century), I would be in favour of renaming List of ancient Germanic peoples to List of early Germanic peoples.

::* "Historical" in ":Category:Historical Germanic peoples" may be redundant, as main article Germanic peoples already identifies all "Germanic peoples" as that they {{tq|were historical groups of people}} (emphasis by me), so upmerging even that category to :Category:Germanic peoples would be a legitimate move. This would also make the "early" in "early Germanic peoples" that I suggested above redundant, however. I think for clarity's sake, we better keep "Historical" for now. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:55, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

• Per nom's rationale there is a third alternative: just merge :Category:Germanic tribes to :Category:Early Germanic peoples, this is alt1 without renaming. I agree that in this case "early" is better than "ancient". Marcocapelle (talk) 17:08, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• :I would be in favour of that, but for that, we should probably rename the main article List of ancient Germanic peoples to List of early Germanic peoples first. As far as I can tell from the templates, talk page and edit history, it's a somewhat contentious article, and they don't like undiscussed moves. What we could do is put this nom on hold, and go to the talk page there to propose this, and once we succeed resume this CfR? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:02, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• :* Best to proceed with WP:RM for the article. But even if it does not succeed we can still have the category renamed that way. It is unusual to have different names for article and category, but not strictly forbidden. A well-known example is the usage of disambiguators which is more common in category names than in article names. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:38, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• :*:Good idea. I posted it at Talk:List of ancient Germanic peoples#Requested move 10 April 2023. This is probably the first time I've done an RM, but there's a first for everything. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:40, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• :*:: If there is consensus to anyway 1°) merge tribes and early peoples and 1°) move away from tribes, I suggest to implement that without holding, knowing that the merged category may later be itself renamed following the result of the RM. Place Clichy (talk) 12:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• :*:::I'd rather do things right. If you participated in the RM, it might help us establish that consensus within the standard 7 days, and that should be unambiguous justification for merging tribes and early peoples, and moving away from tribes. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:04, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
• Alt 1. No need to differentiate between early and Ancient. 'Historical' is too ambiguous, and Germanic categories have been plagued by wrong conceptions such as considering any polity loosely associated with a Germanic-family language up to the 20th century as a historical Germanic people, such as e.g. the Grand-Duchy of Luxembourg or the Thirteen Colonies. Place Clichy (talk) 12:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• :Exactly, which is why I'm trying to fix some of this stuff and bring it back to what is relevant. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:04, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• Update List of ancient Germanic peoples has been moved to List of early Germanic peoples per RM. This essentially eliminates the rationale of the main proposal, and strongly suggests Alt 1 (without renaming) is now the preferred outcome. So far, nobody seems to be in favour of Alt 2, and Place Clinchy and myself have stated objections against it. It seems the conclusion is now obvious. Thanks everyone (including at the RM and the Early Slav CfRs) for your feedback, this was a difficult one. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 18:26, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:32, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

: Propose merging

:* :Category:1811 fires in Europe to :Category:1811 fires and :Category:1810s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1812 fires in Europe to :Category:1812 fires and :Category:1810s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1814 fires in Europe to :Category:1814 fires and :Category:1810s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1819 fires in Europe to :Category:1819 fires and :Category:1810s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1822 fires in Europe to :Category:1822 fires and :Category:1820s fires in Europe

{{cot|more categories nominated}}

:* :Category:1827 fires in Europe to :Category:1827 fires and :Category:1820s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1834 fires in Europe to :Category:1834 fires and :Category:1830s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1836 fires in Europe to :Category:1836 fires and :Category:1830s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1837 fires in Europe to :Category:1837 fires and :Category:1830s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1842 fires in Europe to :Category:1842 fires and :Category:1840s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1843 fires in Europe to :Category:1843 fires and :Category:1840s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1847 fires in Europe to :Category:1847 fires and :Category:1840s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1848 fires in Europe to :Category:1848 fires and :Category:1840s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1850 fires in Europe to :Category:1850 fires and :Category:1850s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1854 fires in Europe to :Category:1854 fires and :Category:1850s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1858 fires in Europe to :Category:1858 fires and :Category:1850s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1861 fires in Europe to :Category:1861 fires and :Category:1860s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1869 fires in Europe to :Category:1869 fires and :Category:1860s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1872 fires in Europe to :Category:1872 fires and :Category:1870s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1873 fires in Europe to :Category:1873 fires and :Category:1870s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1875 fires in Europe to :Category:1875 fires and :Category:1870s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1876 fires in Europe to :Category:1876 fires and :Category:1870s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1881 fires in Europe to :Category:1881 fires and :Category:1880s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1882 fires in Europe to :Category:1882 fires and :Category:1880s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1884 fires in Europe to :Category:1884 fires and :Category:1880s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1887 fires in Europe to :Category:1887 fires and :Category:1880s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1888 fires in Europe to :Category:1888 fires and :Category:1880s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1891 fires in Europe to :Category:1891 fires and :Category:1890s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1897 fires in Europe to :Category:1897 fires and :Category:1890s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1902 fires in Europe to :Category:1902 fires and :Category:1900s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1903 fires in Europe to :Category:1903 fires and :Category:1900s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1904 fires in Europe to :Category:1904 fires and :Category:1900s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1906 fires in Europe to :Category:1906 fires and :Category:1900s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1911 fires in Europe to :Category:1911 fires and :Category:1910s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1912 fires in Europe to :Category:1912 fires and :Category:1910s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1913 fires in Europe to :Category:1913 fires and :Category:1910s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1914 fires in Europe to :Category:1914 fires and :Category:1910s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1915 fires in Europe to :Category:1915 fires and :Category:1910s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1916 fires in Europe to :Category:1916 fires and :Category:1910s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1917 fires in Europe to :Category:1917 fires and :Category:1910s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1918 fires in Europe to :Category:1918 fires and :Category:1910s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1920 fires in Europe to :Category:1920 fires and :Category:1920s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1921 fires in Europe to :Category:1921 fires and :Category:1920s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1922 fires in Europe to :Category:1922 fires and :Category:1920s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1923 fires in Europe to :Category:1923 fires and :Category:1920s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1927 fires in Europe to :Category:1927 fires and :Category:1920s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1929 fires in Europe to :Category:1929 fires and :Category:1920s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1930 fires in Europe to :Category:1930 fires and :Category:1930s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1931 fires in Europe to :Category:1931 fires and :Category:1930s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1932 fires in Europe to :Category:1932 fires and :Category:1930s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1933 fires in Europe to :Category:1933 fires and :Category:1930s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1936 fires in Europe to :Category:1936 fires and :Category:1930s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1937 fires in Europe to :Category:1937 fires and :Category:1930s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1938 fires in Europe to :Category:1938 fires and :Category:1930s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1941 fires in Europe to :Category:1941 fires and :Category:1940s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1942 fires in Europe to :Category:1942 fires and :Category:1940s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1943 fires in Europe to :Category:1943 fires and :Category:1940s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1944 fires in Europe to :Category:1944 fires and :Category:1940s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1945 fires in Europe to :Category:1945 fires and :Category:1940s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1947 fires in Europe to :Category:1947 fires and :Category:1940s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1949 fires in Europe to :Category:1949 fires and :Category:1940s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1952 fires in Europe to :Category:1952 fires and :Category:1950s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1955 fires in Europe to :Category:1955 fires and :Category:1950s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1956 fires in Europe to :Category:1956 fires and :Category:1950s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1957 fires in Europe to :Category:1957 fires and :Category:1950s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1958 fires in Europe to :Category:1958 fires and :Category:1950s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1959 fires in Europe to :Category:1959 fires and :Category:1950s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1960 fires in Europe to :Category:1960 fires and :Category:1960s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1961 fires in Europe to :Category:1961 fires and :Category:1960s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1963 fires in Europe to :Category:1963 fires and :Category:1960s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1966 fires in Europe to :Category:1966 fires and :Category:1960s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1967 fires in Europe to :Category:1967 fires and :Category:1960s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1968 fires in Europe to :Category:1968 fires and :Category:1960s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1970 fires in Europe to :Category:1970 fires and :Category:1970s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1971 fires in Europe to :Category:1971 fires and :Category:1970s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1972 fires in Europe to :Category:1972 fires and :Category:1970s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1973 fires in Europe to :Category:1973 fires and :Category:1970s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1974 fires in Europe to :Category:1974 fires and :Category:1970s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1975 fires in Europe to :Category:1975 fires and :Category:1970s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1977 fires in Europe to :Category:1977 fires and :Category:1970s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1978 fires in Europe to :Category:1978 fires and :Category:1970s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1979 fires in Europe to :Category:1979 fires and :Category:1970s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1980 fires in Europe to :Category:1980 fires and :Category:1980s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1981 fires in Europe to :Category:1981 fires and :Category:1980s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1983 fires in Europe to :Category:1983 fires and :Category:1980s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1984 fires in Europe to :Category:1984 fires and :Category:1980s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1985 fires in Europe to :Category:1985 fires and :Category:1980s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1986 fires in Europe to :Category:1986 fires and :Category:1980s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1987 fires in Europe to :Category:1987 fires and :Category:1980s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1988 fires in Europe to :Category:1988 fires and :Category:1980s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1990 fires in Europe to :Category:1990 fires and :Category:1990s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1991 fires in Europe to :Category:1991 fires and :Category:1990s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1992 fires in Europe to :Category:1992 fires and :Category:1990s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1993 fires in Europe to :Category:1993 fires and :Category:1990s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1994 fires in Europe to :Category:1994 fires and :Category:1990s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1995 fires in Europe to :Category:1995 fires and :Category:1990s fires in Europe

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:* :Category:1996 fires in Europe to :Category:1996 fires and :Category:1990s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1998 fires in Europe to :Category:1998 fires and :Category:1990s fires in Europe

:* :Category:1999 fires in Europe to :Category:1999 fires and :Category:1990s fires in Europe

:Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, the categories in the 19th and 20th century mostly consist of 1 or 2 articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:10, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:23, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Merge all as WP:SMALLCATs. Though this may in turn create some other smallcats for specific years that only have one fire. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:19, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:31, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1680s cold waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1683 cold waves to :Category:1683 natural disasters, :Category:1683 meteorology and :Category:17th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1684 cold waves to :Category:1684 natural disasters, :Category:1684 meteorology and :Category:17th-century cold waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1700s cold waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1708 cold waves to :Category:1708 natural disasters, :Category:1708 meteorology and :Category:18th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1709 cold waves to :Category:1709 natural disasters, :Category:1709 meteorology and :Category:18th-century cold waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1740s cold waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1740 cold waves to :Category:1740 natural disasters, :Category:1740 meteorology and :Category:18th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1741 cold waves to :Category:1741 natural disasters, :Category:1741 meteorology and :Category:18th-century cold waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1880s cold waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1886 cold waves to :Category:1886 natural disasters, :Category:1886 meteorology and :Category:19th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1887 cold waves to :Category:1887 natural disasters, :Category:1887 meteorology and :Category:19th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1888 cold waves to :Category:1888 natural disasters, :Category:1888 meteorology and :Category:19th-century cold waves

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:*Propose deleting {{lc|1890s cold waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1894 cold waves to :Category:1894 natural disasters, :Category:1894 meteorology and :Category:19th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1895 cold waves to :Category:1895 natural disasters, :Category:1895 meteorology and :Category:19th-century cold waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1910s cold waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1911 cold waves to :Category:1911 natural disasters, :Category:1911 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1912 cold waves to :Category:1912 natural disasters, :Category:1912 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1930s cold waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1936 cold waves to :Category:1936 natural disasters, :Category:1936 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1940s cold waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1946 cold waves to :Category:1946 natural disasters, :Category:1946 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1947 cold waves to :Category:1947 natural disasters, :Category:1947 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1960s cold waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1962 cold waves to :Category:1962 natural disasters, :Category:1962 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1963 cold waves to :Category:1963 natural disasters, :Category:1963 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1970s cold waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1977 cold waves to :Category:1977 natural disasters, :Category:1977 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1978 cold waves to :Category:1978 natural disasters, :Category:1978 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:1981 cold waves to :Category:1981 natural disasters, :Category:1981 meteorology and :Category:1980s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:1982 cold waves to :Category:1982 natural disasters, :Category:1982 meteorology and :Category:1980s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:1985 cold waves to :Category:1985 natural disasters, :Category:1985 meteorology and :Category:1980s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:1987 cold waves to :Category:1987 natural disasters, :Category:1987 meteorology and :Category:1980s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:1989 cold waves to :Category:1989 natural disasters, :Category:1989 meteorology and :Category:1980s cold waves

:*Propose deleting {{lc|1990s cold waves}}

::*Propose merging :Category:1990 cold waves to :Category:1990 natural disasters, :Category:1990 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1991 cold waves to :Category:1991 natural disasters, :Category:1991 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1994 cold waves to :Category:1994 natural disasters, :Category:1994 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

::*Propose merging :Category:1995 cold waves to :Category:1995 natural disasters, :Category:1995 meteorology and :Category:20th-century cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2006 cold waves to :Category:2006 natural disasters, :Category:2006 meteorology and :Category:2000s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2008 cold waves to :Category:2008 natural disasters, :Category:2008 meteorology and :Category:2000s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2009 cold waves to :Category:2009 natural disasters, :Category:2009 meteorology and :Category:2000s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2010 cold waves to :Category:2010 natural disasters, :Category:2010 meteorology and :Category:2010s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2011 cold waves to :Category:2011 natural disasters, :Category:2011 meteorology and :Category:2010s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2012 cold waves to :Category:2012 natural disasters, :Category:2012 meteorology and :Category:2010s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2013 cold waves to :Category:2013 natural disasters, :Category:2013 meteorology and :Category:2010s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2014 cold waves to :Category:2014 natural disasters, :Category:2014 meteorology and :Category:2010s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2015 cold waves to :Category:2015 natural disasters, :Category:2015 meteorology and :Category:2010s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2016 cold waves to :Category:2016 natural disasters, :Category:2016 meteorology and :Category:2010s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2017 cold waves to :Category:2017 natural disasters, :Category:2017 meteorology and :Category:2010s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2018 cold waves to :Category:2018 natural disasters, :Category:2018 meteorology and :Category:2010s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2019 cold waves to :Category:2019 natural disasters, :Category:2019 meteorology and :Category:2010s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2021 cold waves to :Category:2021 natural disasters, :Category:2021 meteorology and :Category:2020s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2022 cold waves to :Category:2022 natural disasters, :Category:2020 meteorology and :Category:2020s cold waves

:*Propose merging :Category:2023 cold waves to :Category:2023 natural disasters, :Category:2023 meteorology and :Category:2020s cold waves

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:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Most have 1-2 entries per year. Not enough content on a yearly basis to warrant this tree. Merge to either decade or century cold waves as specified above and appropriate parent cats. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:04, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:13, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:17, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Ancient Slavic peoples, matching the RM. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:29, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Slavic tribes to :Category:Ancient Slavic peoples

:** Alt rename :Category:Slavic tribes to :Category:Early Slavic peoples

:Nominator's rationale: WP:C2D: main article is List of ancient Slavic peoples. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 13:46, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

:Alt rename rationale WP:C2C: parent :Category:Early Slavs, whose main article is Early Slavs. Similar CfR plus requested move going on for {{tq|ancient Germanic peoples}} to {{xt|early Germanic peoples}}.

• Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:57, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Rename per nom and WP:C2D. Place Clichy (talk) 12:49, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• Also support alt renaming to :Category:Early Slavic peoples per the latest discussion below. Place Clichy (talk) 08:42, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. Ancient is a common (mis-)translation of Russian drevni, but in English Ancient history has a specific scope that is inappropriately applied here (the Ancient period ends 500 AD, but the Slavic tribes only formed near the end of that, their important history follows it: e.g., East Slavs’ contact with the Rus from the 800s through to the second millennium). :Category:Early Slavic peoples or the like would be better. —Michael Z. 14:47, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
• :Good points. Since yesterday evening, we are also in the process of a similar CfR/M involvig ancient/early Germanic peoples/tribes, and are seeking to rename List of ancient Germanic peoples to List of early Germanic peoples, where I make pretty much the same points as you do here (see Talk:List of ancient Germanic peoples#Requested move 10 April 2023). I had just forgotten to also apply the same logic here after I posted this CfR yesterday morning. I've added this as an Alt rename option, and personally it is my strong preference. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:53, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
• : The term of Late antiquity precisely applies to the period of the Slavic invasions in the Byzantine Empire, though. Antiquity ends earlier in Western Europe, but that is unrelated to Slavs. Place Clichy (talk) 08:42, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
• ::Okay, but still these Slavic tribes’ existence was not restricted to the Ancient world geographically nor chronologically, and they are not defined as Ancient. The Severians paying tribute to the Rus in the tenth century and Kushka being killed by the Viatichi in the twelfth have nothing to do with the Ancient world and shouldn’t be categorized as such.  —Michael Z. 15:15, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
• ::: The best venue for this discussion would be an WP:RM at Talk:List of ancient Slavic peoples. Once a consensus is reached there, I would favor the categories matching that outcome. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:06, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
• ::::I just moved it to List of early Slavic peoples.  —Michael Z. 03:54, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
• Rename to :Category:Ancient Slavic peoples per WP:C2D, to match the main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:06, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete per WP:SMALLCAT. If the category is expandable, it should be recreated as :Category:A2Z (TV channel). bibliomaniac15 06:30, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:A2Z (Philippine TV channel) original programming to :Category:A2Z (TV channel) original programming

:Nominator's rationale: Main page moved to A2Z (TV channel) as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 09:01, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

::Delete/rename and recategorize. The current category has 2 entries. None are actual programs but lists so don't belong in an "original programming" category. A category for :Category:A2Z (TV channel) can be used for that. Gonnym (talk) 22:52, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• Upmerge to :Category:Original programming by Philippine television network or channel — WP:SMALLCAT size 2, both lists. Note "A2Z" was a film redirect, although somebody copy and pasted the TV channel, and it was promptly reverted. Even though that could be repaired, this rename is not a good idea. According to the lists, there are only 2 original programs so far, and neither has an english article.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:02, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• I've moved the old redirect to {{la|A2Z (2006 film)}}, as most articles here mention 2006, although it was apparently filmed in 2004, and IMdb claims a release in 2007. Now {{la|A2Z}} redirects to the disambiguation page, and I've fixed all the links.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:20, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Gonnym is right that the category does not contain articles about original programming, so merging within that tree as User:William Allen Simpson proposed is not appropriate. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
• Rename to :Category:A2Z (TV channel), per nom. And recat to :Category:Television networks in the Philippines, per User:Marcocapelle. - jc37 08:49, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:26, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:2010 Claxton Shield to :Category:Claxton Shield, :Category:2010 in Australian sport and :Category:2010 in baseball

:Nominator's rationale: Isolated category with only two member pages. Siblings that held only 1 page have already been upmerged speedily (WP:C2F). – Fayenatic London 08:29, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

• Triple merge as nominated.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:48, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:03, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:25, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Country subdivision templates to :Category:Administrative division templates

:** Propose renaming :Category:Administrative country subdivisions by level templates
to :Category:Administrative divisions by level templates

:Nominator's rationale: WP:C2C {{cl|Administrative divisions}}, and WP:C2D main {{tl|Lists of administrative divisions}} and {{tl|Types of administrative division}}, and content such as {{tl|Articles on fourth-level administrative divisions of countries}}.

:This a compound neologism by banned User:Tobias Conradi, who used 150+ sockpuppets over 5+ years to spam this all over wikipedia, one of the worst cases ever seen. One of the sockpuppets was User:Country subdivision. Before coming here, he'd been banned at the German wikipedia. These were all supposed to be fixed (and many articles were simply deleted), but sadly others linger a decade later. It is so easy to mass create categories, and so much harder to fix them.

:Precedent:

:*Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 19#Category:Country subdivisions

:*Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 19#Category:Types of country subdivisions

:William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:53, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

:{{Ping|Kestenbaum|Laurel Lodged|Marcocapelle|Oculi|Place Clichy|RevelationDirect}}: currently active participants in previous discussion.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 12:38, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

• Support all per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:05, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support per nom. SilverStar54 (talk) 21:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support per WP:C2D. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:34, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

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