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:The result of the discussion was: merge/purge/reparent. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:48, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Leaders of North Yemen to :Category:Heads of state of North Yemen; purge the last two subcategories and prime minister Abd Al-Karim Al-Iryani; and re-parent under :Category:Heads of state of Yemen (instead of :Category:Rulers of Yemen)

:* Propose merging :Category:Leaders of South Yemen to :Category:Heads of state of Yemen

:Nominator's rationale:cmerge/purge/re-parent, nowhere else do we have "leaders" of countries categories with this type of content. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:22, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Support merge/purge/re-parent. Complicated, will be some work, but thanks for doing the nomination.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:49, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:52, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Early childhood education in Denmark to :Category:Education in Denmark

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories (id est: :Category:Education in Denmark and :Category:Childhood in Denmark and :Category:Early childhood education). Estopedist1 (talk) 21:58, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Multiple sibling categories may be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:07, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:53, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Standards of Estonia to :Category:Economy of Estonia

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories (id est: :Category:Economy of Estonia and :Category:Standards). In addition: unique category name in Baltoscandinavia countries categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 21:38, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Multiple sibling categories may be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:54, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Icelandic classical liberals to :Category:Icelandic politicians

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories (id est: :Category:Icelandic politicians‎ and :Category:European classical liberals). Estopedist1 (talk) 21:28, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom but the entire tree should be nominated for deletion per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:10, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:54, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Hoaxes in Latvia to :Category:Historical events in Latvia and :Category:Hoaxes

:* Propose merging :Category:Hoaxes in Denmark to :Category:Historical events in Denmark and :Category:Hoaxes

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories (id est: :Category:Historical events in Latvia and :Category:Hoaxes). Estopedist1 (talk) 20:17, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Multiple sibling categories may be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:55, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Football venues in Antiguo Cuscatlán to :Category:Football venues in El Salvador and :Category:La Libertad Department (El Salvador)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Sports venues in Antiguo Cuscatlán}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Sport in Antiguo Cuscatlán}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Buildings and structures in Antiguo Cuscatlán}}

:* Propose merging :Category:Sport in Santa Tecla, El Salvador to :Category:La Libertad Department (El Salvador)

:* Propose merging :Category:Sport in La Libertad, La Libertad to :Category:La Libertad Department (El Salvador)

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:39, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Support all as per nom. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:12, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Support
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:51, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:56, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Water sports in Lagos}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. One article. The article is already in :Category:Yacht clubs in Nigeria and :Category:Sports clubs in Lagos. Delete or open to merge to :Category:Water in Lagos. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:26, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:14, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Delete
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:51, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:56, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Sport venues in Ibadan to :Category:Sport in Ibadan

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Only 2 articles. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:17, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Merge
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:52, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge as per nom. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:57, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Drugs in Oman to :Category:Health in Oman

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT with only one article. It should also be merged to :Category:Society of Oman. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:34, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

• This is a case of the SMALLCAT exception rule, part of a large established tree, :Category:Drugs by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:11, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
• I have made it marginally more useful by adding the redirect Illegal drug trade in Oman. – Fayenatic London 14:15, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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• Merge. It held only a stub and a redirect, and I have now merged and redirected the stub.– Fayenatic London 10:47, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per Fayenatic london. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:22, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
• Merge. However, I'm not sure :Category:Society of Oman is also a proper target.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 12:53, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: purge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:01, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Fictional detectives to :Category:Fictional detectives and criminal investigators

:Nominator's rationale: Consistency with :Category:Detectives and criminal investigators. --Wahspsneh (talk) 18:28, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:37, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose The primary article of :Category:Detectives and criminal investigators is in fact detective, not detective and criminal investigator. It is that category that needs to be speedy renamed to :Category:Detectives per WP:C2D. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:58, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose and agree that :Category:Detectives and criminal investigators should be renamed to :Category:Detectives.--Bduke (talk) 03:47, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
• withdrawn Rename as nominated. If kept, purge of all non-detectives; criminologists‎, forensic scientists‎, paranormal investigators‎, and private investigators‎ are not detectives.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:10, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

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• Oppose per Zxcvbnm's argument. The parent should be renamed. Dimadick (talk) 21:44, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose and Purge — criminologists‎, forensic scientists‎, paranormal investigators‎, and private investigators‎ are not detectives.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 12:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:04, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Denmark crime-related lists to :Category:Denmark-related lists

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories (id est: :Category:Denmark-related lists and :Category:Crime in Denmark). Estopedist1 (talk) 16:58, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Dual merge
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:57, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:06, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|China-US Cold War}}

:Nominator's rationale: Recently created category that is inherently OR, as there is nothing like consistent support in RSes for the idea that there is, was, or will be a "China-US Cold War", let alone consensus in RSs on what events are part of it. Similar to the reasons that :Category:Cold War II and :Category:Second Cold War were deleted (Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 2#Category:Cold War II). —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:54, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Talk page was obviously ignored, and I quote: “This was made in response to the Chinese category here: :zh:Category:中美冷战 Twillisjr (talk) 00:00, 21 February 2023 (UTC)”
• Keep The Chinese version has this category and if you suggest it does not comply, add the same request to that page. I believe this category is justifiable and there is enough content to suggest it exists. Twillisjr (talk) 16:01, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Delete What occurs on another language Wikipedia doesn't determine what happens on this one. I think this category will be appropriate when there is a sourced article about a China-US Cold War. Categories have to reflect verifiable information in articles, they just can't be original inventions even if they exist on other language Wikipedias. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:17, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

::There is the Second Cold War article that describes something like this occurring but it doesn't go by the name of "China-US Cold War". You might consider renaming this category to be in keeping with scholarship on this subject. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:28, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

:::Liz, a rename is better than a deletion. Twillisjr (talk) 00:19, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

• Delete for now. Category is inherently OR. The category on Chinese Wikipedia is currently up for deletion and the Second Cold War article isn't only about China-US relations. Mucube (talk • contribs) 01:03, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Delete for now, we can easily re-create the category when this becomes a common term in reliable sources. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:20, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

• Question Why "China-US Cold War" but not "US-China Cold War" or "Sino-US Cold War"? Vacosea (talk) 10:46, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

• Delete WP:OR
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:04, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:06, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Danish political websites to :Category:Danish websites

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories (id est: :Category:Danish websites and :Category:Politics of Denmark, and :Category:Political websites). Estopedist1 (talk) 14:41, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Triple merge per nom. Multiple sibling categories may be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:21, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Triple merge
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:57, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:07, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Heaths in Denmark to :Category:Geography of Denmark

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories (id est: :Category:Geography of Denmark and :Category:Heaths). Estopedist1 (talk) 14:22, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. :Category:Heaths by country should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:23, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Merge
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:57, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Transhumanists. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:10, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Norwegian transhumanists to :Category:Norwegian activists

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories (id est: :Category:Norwegian activists and :Category:Transhumanists). Estopedist1 (talk) 09:24, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom, surely to :Category:Transhumanists, but I do not think that :Category:Norwegian activists is a proper target. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:25, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Merge to :Category:Transhumanists, not :Category:Norwegian activists.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:18, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:11, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Icelandic mineralogists to :Category:Icelandic geologists

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories (id est: :Category:Icelandic geologists and :Category:Mineralogists). Estopedist1 (talk) 08:43, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Support--Ipigott (talk) 09:31, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
• Dual merge per nom. Several sibling categories may be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Dual merge as nominated.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:16, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Cycle manufacturers of Iceland to :Category:Manufacturing companies of Iceland

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories (id est: :Category:Manufacturing companies of Iceland and :Category:Cycling in Iceland and :Category:Cycle manufacturers). Estopedist1 (talk) 08:39, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Triple merge per nom. Many sibling categories may be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Triple merge as nominated.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:17, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Photography museums and galleries in Iceland to :Category:Icelandic photography organizations

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories (id est: :Category:Icelandic photography organizations, :Category:Photography museums and galleries) and :Category:Art museums and galleries in Iceland. Estopedist1 (talk) 07:41, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Triple merge per nom. Several sibling categories may be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Triple merge as nominated.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:18, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Fast-food chains of Iceland to :Category:Restaurant chains in Iceland

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories (id est: :Category:Restaurant chains in Iceland and :Category:Fast-food restaurants). Estopedist1 (talk) 07:37, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Dual merge per nom. Several sibling categories may be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:31, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Dual merge as nominated.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:53, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:18, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Microphone setups to :Category:Microphone practices

:Nominator's rationale: In line with already existing article Microphone practice The Midnite Wolf (talk) 07:12, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Support WP:C2D — as a former sound manager.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:52, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:24, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Universities and colleges in Nouméa to :Category:Universities in New Caledonia and :Category:Nouméa

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Education in Nouméa}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. One article. –Aidan721 (talk) 04:15, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:41, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
• Merge :Category:Universities and colleges in Nouméa but to :Category:Universities in New Caledonia and :Category:Buildings and structures in Nouméa. Oculi (talk) 10:59, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
• Support, but oppose merging to :Category:Buildings and structures in Nouméa, as the article isn't about the university campus, it's about the university, and the university presumably has more than one building. Mucube (talk • contribs) 01:07, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Support as nominated.
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:47, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:25, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Sports competitions in Port-au-Prince to :Category:Sport in Port-au-Prince and :Category:Events in Port-au-Prince

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Only 2 articles. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:13, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
• Support
  William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:47, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
• Support as per nom. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

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