Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 30#Category:Godeffroy family

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:32, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Private members' clubs to :Category:Clubs and societies

:Nominator's rationale: In Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_4#Category:Private_clubs_in_Toronto, more people complained about this category being redundant, due to clubs being inherently private, than discussed the subcategories that were nominated. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:03, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

• Keep Seems a sensible category - I've made the very extensive :Category:Gentlemen's clubs tree a sub-cat; of course most of these now have women members. Some clubs are much more private than others. Johnbod (talk) 21:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
• Merge, subjective distinction. E.g. what makes Annabel's more private than other clubs? Marcocapelle (talk) 04:33, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
• It's the usage. Of course the various stamp-collecting etc societies in :Category:Clubs and societies are private, but they can mostly be joined by anyone ready to pay the sub. Johnbod (talk) 02:51, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
• Keep 'Private members' clubs' is the recognised term for these clubs which used to be known as 'Gentleman's clubs'. They are more rarefied than other member's clubs such as Working men's clubs in British parlance. Annabel's and other clubs are exclusive as they invariably require proposers and seconders for membership before extracting a hefty annual fee. No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:16, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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• Merge - It would appear that this cat only exists to contain Gentleman's clubs which include women. Easily solved by a merge to :Category:Clubs and societies, which would also have :Category:Gentlemen's clubs as a subcat. - jc37 11:19, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
• The articles are already elsewhere in the tree of :Category:Clubs and societies so merge translates as deletion. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:15, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 19:49, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Backyard Broadcasting stations}}

:Nominator's rationale: Backyard Broadcasting sold all its stations, so there are no articles to populate this category. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:25, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:15, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Aleut people. redundant category Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 17:06, 6 November 2023 (UTC) (non-admin closure) Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 17:06, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People of Aleut descent to :Category:Aleut people

:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

::Support per nom Mason (talk) 00:44, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:The Nest (TV network) affiliates. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 19:48, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Stadium (sports network) affiliates to :Category:The Nest (TV network) affiliates

:Nominator's rationale: Stadium OTA service to end 10/30; Nest article hasn't been created yet; rename or delete if possible Mvcg66b3r (talk) 04:50, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Support as The Nest is replacing Stadium on at least all of Sinclair's stations and probably elsewhere. Additional information: [https://thedesk.net/2023/10/sinclair-the-nest-launch-stadium/] Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:22, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. There is only one article in this category – Antoni Blank – so I think it is more appropriate to discuss whether it should be in :Category:German emigrants to Poland at Talk:Antoni Blank (as opposed to CfD). {{yo|Smasongarrison|Marcocapelle}} feel free to open said discussion. (This is explicitly a WP:NSUPER vote.) (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 00:07, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Emigrants from the Kingdom of Prussia to Poland to :Category:German emigrants to Poland

:Nominator's rationale: small cat that's not defining for emigrants Mason (talk) 04:21, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Just delete, the only article is about someone who moved from Warsaw to Dresden and after 6 years moved back to Warsaw. (And Dresden was not even part of the Kingdom of Prussia.) Marcocapelle (talk) 04:51, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 19:47, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Bayer family}}

:Nominator's rationale: family category with two people: father and his son in law Mason (talk) 04:18, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:18, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 19:46, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Geithner family}}

:Nominator's rationale: only two people and they're twins Mason (talk) 04:17, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:20, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 14:10, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Zeitschel family}}

:Nominator's rationale: only two people in this family Mason (talk) 04:07, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:21, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Godefroy family. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 14:10, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Godeffroy family}}

:Nominator's rationale: small cat, no family in it, just a museum Mason (talk) 04:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• I added a few articles. Rename to :Category:Godefroy family (one f) as this appears to the original name of the family. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:15, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
• :Support rename! thanks for doing some digging Mason (talk) 00:45, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Russian hypnotists. The category has been emptied, so this is an academic question. In any case, there is consensus to merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 23:40, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Hypnotists from the Russian Empire to :Category:Russian hypnotists

:Nominator's rationale: small cat where the intersection between regime and occupation is not defining Mason (talk) 02:47, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Merge, the one person in the category lived in the same period as the four persons in the target. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:24, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
• Comment This category has been emptied. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:34, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Russian art directors. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 14:09, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Art directors from the Russian Empire to :Category:Russian art directors

:Nominator's rationale: overlapping category where the intersection between regime and occupation isn't defining Mason (talk) 02:43, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Merge, the subject of the only article wasn't even 20 years old when the Empire came to an end. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:27, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. If someone wants to listify, the members (at time of closing) were Akbar, Justin I, Murad I, and Tianqi Emperor. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 14:09, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Illiterate monarchs}}

:Nominator's rationale: Not defining Mason (talk) 02:12, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete - Listify, if wanted. "Illiterate" fails WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. How illiterate does one need to be, to be considered illiterate? - jc37 11:26, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 14:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Reuben family}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only a single page covering both brothers Mason (talk) 02:10, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete, there are enough people with the surname Reuben but it is not clear whether they were one family. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:30, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 14:07, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Engerth family}}

:Nominator's rationale: only two people in this family category; no interlanguage links Mason (talk) 02:09, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:31, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 14:07, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Vetsera family}}

:Nominator's rationale: only two people in this family category; not interlanguage links Mason (talk) 02:07, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:32, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 14:07, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Von Doblhoff}}

:Nominator's rationale: only two people in this family category; not interlanugage links Mason (talk) 02:07, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:33, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge to :Category:Families of Nazi leaders and :Category:Wikipedia categories named after German families. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 14:07, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Wikipedia categories named after families of Nazi leaders to :Category:Families of Nazi leaders

:Nominator's rationale: entirely duplicative Mason (talk) 02:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Dual merge, also to :Category:Wikipedia categories named after German families. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:37, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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