Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 12

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to subcategories of :Category:Sephardi Jews. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Spanish and Portuguese Jews to :Category:Spanish Jews and :Category:Portuguese Jews

:Nominator's rationale: This topic category either needs to be purged, split, or renamed. There are way too many individual people in this category instead of in Spanish Jews or Portuguese Jews Mason (talk) 23:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The main article is Spanish and Portuguese Jews. Most of the articles are not biographies, and for some historical people it is probably anachronistic to demand a split along modern borders. Johnbod (talk) 00:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
• :Do you also oppose purging or an alternative name to reduce the confusion? Mason (talk) 15:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
• Manually merge to the tree of :Category:Sephardi Jews. The content of the nominated category is about Jewish diaspora from Spain and Portugal, so the proposed merge targets do not work. But :Category:Sephardi Jews is also about Jewish diaspora from Spain and Portugal. Probably keep a redirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
• :I'm very happy to have an alternative merge target. Mason (talk) 15:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
• ::Does this work for you, Johnbod? HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:18, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
• :::Yes, thanks. Johnbod (talk) 12:29, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Jewish British slave owners}}

:Nominator's rationale: This non-defining intersection between occupation+nationality+religion/ethnicity is problematic, under WP:EGRS Mason (talk) 23:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. The three articles are already in :Category:British slave owners so a merge is not needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Interstate highway formatting and function templates to :Category:Interstate highway templates and :Category:Transport formatting and function templates

:Nominator's rationale: Single-page category. Merge to both parents. – Fayenatic London 21:21, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Germans from Russia to :Category:German diaspora in Russia

:Nominator's rationale: rename to align with other German diaspora sibling categories. This is not a case for speedy because there is no main article with this name. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom. Mason (talk) 15:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Norway templates. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:07, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Norway formatting and function templates to :Category:Norway templates

:Nominator's rationale: Manual merge as small category (2 templates + 1 subcat + 2 subcats). If not merged, rename to Norway utility templates, following Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 28#Category:Wikipedia formatting and function templates; but no other countries have a country subcat for utility templates in :Category:Wikipedia utility templates. – Fayenatic London 17:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:16, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
• Note, there are now 2 subcats, because I found another like-named that was not in this parent until now. But I still think merging is in order. – Fayenatic London 21:16, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:08, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Australia category header templates to :Category:Australia templates

:Nominator's rationale: Contains only 1 template. No need for double merge, as template is already in another subcat of the other parent. – Fayenatic London 17:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename all except for no consensus on renaming :Category:Mecha films. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Android (robot) films‎}} to :Category:Films about androids

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Aviation films}} to :Category:Films about aviation

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Aviation films by country‎}} to :Category:Films about aviation by country

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Cyborg films}} to :Category:Films about cyborgs

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Drone films}} to :Category:Films about drones

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Mecha films}} to :Category:Films about mecha

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Robot films}} to :Category:Films about robots

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Robot films by country‎}} to :Category:Films about robots by country

:Nominator's rationale: As with other recent category renames, change to make it clear that these categories are intended for scenarios where X plays a significant role in the film, not merely an incidental one. DonIago (talk) 13:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

• Procedural oppose Similar categories in other types of media have not been nominated, so I will have to procedurally oppose this until that is fixed for consistency reasons. I will oppose moving "Mecha films" regardless of what happens due to it being an established genre. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
• :There've been many of these regarding film categories specifically, but here's a few that included other types of media: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_January_5#Gambling_media_-%3E_Media_about_gambling], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_February_5#Foo_in_fiction], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_October_2#Foo_in_media]. DonIago (talk) 15:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support all except Mecha It makes the scope clearer. The term mecha is ambiguous. It may refer to mecha (fictional giant robots in humanoid form) or to the genre of mecha anime and manga which generally depicts mecha used in combat situations. Dimadick (talk) 18:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
• Rename per abundant precedent in CfD discussions. I do not have an opinion about Mecha in particular. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
• Rename all except Mecha, per extensive precedent regarding X in fiction categories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
• Rename, with no opinion on Mecha films. The majority of subcategories of :Category:Films by topic are clear precedents. Ham II (talk) 16:44, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus with no prejudice against speedy renomination. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:11, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Baseball players from Ames, Iowa to :Category:Sportspeople from Ames, Iowa and :Category:Baseball players from Iowa

:Nominator's rationale: Dual merge; only two articles. No object to recreation if there are more articles to be added. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:03, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

::Merge per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:36, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

:::There are now 3 articles. There are over 200 articles in :Category:Baseball players from Iowa and Ames is one of the larger cities in Iowa. I'd prefer to keep or at least rename :Category:Baseball players from Story County, Iowa which would be slightly larger.--User:Namiba 21:54, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Thoughts on Namiba's comment? (Keeping it to diffuse :Category:Baseball players from Iowa and possibly renaming to broaden its scope.)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:29, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: See above relisting comment.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:14, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Wikipedia category maintenance to :Category:Wikipedia category cleanup

:Nominator's rationale: No distinction in contents. This is a downmerge, and will require manual handling of categories in the target. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Note that :Category:Pages using category pair with no output contains far too many categories, it also contains categories with a successor. If applied correctly, it would be a great tool to detect isolated year and century categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom and Marco comment. JarrahTree 13:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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