Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 7#Category:Venice stubs

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:36, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Categories by perpetrator}}

:Nominator's rationale: This is a subclass of :Category:Categories by individual, which is inappropriate because most of its child categories are by country not individual. Once you remove those categories, you're left with just :Category:Criminal activities by perpetrator. "Perpetrator" is a crime-related term which is not likely appropriate for additional subcategories beyond that one. See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 5#Category:Airstrikes by perpetrator. Daask (talk) 21:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

::Delete per nom Althistwikibox (talk) 14:10, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, but move :Category:Criminal activities by perpetrator to :Category:Categories by individual. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:16, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename/merge as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:42, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Palestinian territories to :Category:Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:Terrorism deaths in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Terrorism deaths in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:People murdered in the Palestinian territories to :Category:People murdered in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:Deaths by firearm in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Deaths by firearm in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:Deaths by stabbing in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Deaths by stabbing in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:Centuries in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Centuries in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:Deaths in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Deaths in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:Decades in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Decades in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:Disease-related deaths in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Disease-related deaths in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:Disestablishments in the Palestinian territories by century to :Category:Disestablishments in Palestine by century

:* Propose merging :Category:Disestablishments in the Palestinian territories by decade to :Category:Disestablishments in Palestine by decade

:* Propose merging :Category:Disestablishments in the Palestinian territories by year to :Category:Disestablishments in Palestine by year

:* Propose merging :Category:Disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:Establishments in the Palestinian territories by century to :Category:Establishments in Palestine by century

:* Propose merging :Category:Establishments in the Palestinian territories by decade to :Category:Establishments in Palestine by decade

:* Propose merging :Category:Establishments in the Palestinian territories by year to :Category:Establishments in Palestine by year

:* Propose merging :Category:Establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Establishments in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:Suicides in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Suicides in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:Years in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Years in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:Years of the 21st century in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Years of the 21st century in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:20th-century establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:20th-century establishments in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:21st century in the Palestinian territories to :Category:21st century in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:21st-century disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:21st-century disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:21st-century establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:21st-century establishments in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:2nd-millennium establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2nd-millennium establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:20th century in the Palestinian territories to :Category:20th century in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:20th-century disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:20th-century disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:20th-century mass murder in the Palestinian territories to :Category:20th-century mass murder in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2nd millennium in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2nd millennium in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2nd-millennium disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2nd-millennium disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Years of the 20th century in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Years of the 20th century in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Novels set in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Novels set in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Kidnappings in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Kidnappings in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Deaths from cancer in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Deaths from cancer in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Populated coastal places in Palestinian territories to :Category:Populated coastal places in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Individual trees in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Individual trees in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Basilica churches in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Basilica churches in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Children's books set in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Children's books set in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Defunct political party alliances in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Defunct political party alliances in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Political party alliances in the Palestinian territories to :Category:Political party alliances in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Wikipedia requested images of people of the Palestinian territories to :Category:Wikipedia requested images of people of Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:2010s disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2010s disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:2010s establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2010s establishments in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:2010s in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2010s in Palestine

:* Propose merging :Category:2021 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2021 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1980s disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1980s disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1980s establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1980s establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1980s in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1980s in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1984 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1984 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1987 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1987 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1988 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1988 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1988 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1988 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1989 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1989 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1989 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1989 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1990 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1990 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1990 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1990 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1990s disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1990s disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1990s establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1990s establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1990s in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1990s in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1991 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1991 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1991 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1991 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1991 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1991 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1992 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1992 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1992 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1992 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1993 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1993 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1993 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1993 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1993 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1993 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1994 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1994 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1994 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1994 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1995 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1995 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1995 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1995 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1995 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1995 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1996 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1996 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1996 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1996 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1996 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1996 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1997 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1997 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1997 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1997 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1998 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1998 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1998 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1998 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1998 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1998 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1999 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1999 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1999 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1999 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2000 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2000 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2000 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2000 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2000 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2000 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2000s disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2000s disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2000s establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2000s establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2000s in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2000s in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2000s murders in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2000s murders in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2001 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2001 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2001 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2001 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2001 murders in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2001 murders in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2002 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2002 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2002 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2002 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2002 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2002 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2003 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2003 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2003 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2003 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2003 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2003 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2004 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2004 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2004 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2004 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2005 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2005 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2005 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2005 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2005 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2005 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2006 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2006 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2006 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2006 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2006 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2006 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2007 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2007 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2007 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2007 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2007 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2007 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2008 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2008 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2008 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2008 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2008 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2008 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2009 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2009 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2009 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2009 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2009 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2009 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2010 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2010 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2010 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2010 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2011 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2011 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2011 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2011 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2012 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2012 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2012 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2012 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2012 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:2012 in Palestine

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:* Propose renaming :Category:1940s disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1940s disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1940s establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1940s establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1940s in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1940s in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1948 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1948 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1948 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1948 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1948 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1948 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1949 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1949 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1949 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1949 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1950 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1950 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1950 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1950 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1950 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1950 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1950s disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1950s disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1950s establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1950s establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1950s in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1950s in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1951 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1951 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1951 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1951 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1952 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1952 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1952 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1952 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1953 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1953 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1953 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1953 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1954 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1954 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1954 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1954 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1955 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1955 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1955 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1955 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1956 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1956 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1956 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1956 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1957 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1957 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1957 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1957 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1958 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1958 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1959 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1959 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1959 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1959 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1960 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1960 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1960 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1960 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1960s disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1960s disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1960s establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1960s establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1960s in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1960s in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1961 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1961 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1962 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1962 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1962 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1962 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1963 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1963 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1964 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1964 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1964 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1964 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1965 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1965 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1965 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1965 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1966 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1966 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1966 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1966 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1967 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1967 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1967 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1967 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1967 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1967 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1968 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1968 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1968 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1968 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1969 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1969 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1969 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1969 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1970 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1970 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1970 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1970 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1970s disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1970s disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1970s establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1970s establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1970s in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1970s in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1971 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1971 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1971 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1971 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1972 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1972 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1972 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1972 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1973 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1973 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1973 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1973 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1974 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1974 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1974 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1974 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1975 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1975 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1975 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1975 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1976 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1976 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1976 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1976 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1976 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1976 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1977 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1977 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1977 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1977 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1978 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1978 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1978 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1978 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1979 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1979 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1979 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1979 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1980 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1980 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1980 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1980 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1981 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1981 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1981 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1981 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1982 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1982 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1982 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1982 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1983 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1983 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1983 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1983 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1984 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1984 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1985 disestablishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1985 disestablishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1985 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1985 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1985 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1985 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1986 establishments in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1986 establishments in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1986 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1986 in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:1987 in the Palestinian territories to :Category:1987 in Palestine

:Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 March 5#Palestinian territories. From "1940s in the Palestinian territories" onward, the rest of the list may also be deleted instead of renamed. The article about 1987 in the Israeli Civil Administration area was apparently moved from "Palestine" based on the argument that using "Palestine" for events before 1987 would be anachronistic. Deleting these categories would also be acceptable, as they are merely container categories. I'm fine with both options—either renaming the pre-1987 entries or deleting them altogether. Hassan697 (talk) 18:09, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

:*Please explain the suggested 1987 cutoff, which is part-way through :Category:Israeli Civil Administration. Did you perhaps mean 1967, which is the start of :Category:Israeli Military Governorate? For reference, see also previous discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_October_13#Years_in_the_Israeli_Civil_Administration_Area. – Fayenatic London 11:41, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• Merge or rename post-1987 categories, per earlier discussions. Do not delete pre-1987 categories because deletion would destroy the interconnection between the articles in this tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:23, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
• Right – if only some are renamed, please would the nominator or closer insert REDIRECT for those that are to be renamed, for 5 years after the cutoff, 5 decades after the cutoff, and the centuries. Then the bot will leave redirects for the benefit of category navigation. – Fayenatic London 11:41, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
• @User:Fayenatic london, Marcocapelle: OK, then let's proceed with merging/renaming all the relevant categories, as I originally proposed and as they are currently tagged. To clarify why I initially distinguished between post-1987 and pre-1988: this was based on the 1988 Palestinian Declaration of Independence, which formally proclaimed the State of Palestine. However, on further reflection, I agree that this declaration should not be treated as a defining moment for categorisation purposes. It doesn't significantly change the administrative or territorial reality relevant to these categories. Do you agree with this course of action? Hassan697 (talk) 19:12, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
• I think so. "Palestinian territories" is clearly anachronistic for 1947–1966, and I think the recent precedents lean towards using "Palestine" throughout. Note to closer: if the whole set is renamed, there is no need to keep any redirects.
• : But I am not clear what should be done with the IMG and ICA chronology categories. I think these were created as precursors to the Palestinian chronology categories for 1967 to 1994. There was a consensus to merge IMG/ICA and Palestinian layers at CFD in 2018, but I see that {{user|Dash9Z}} has recently undone that merger, apparently without discussion. Picking a year at random, the articles in :Category:1983 in the Israeli Civil Administration area could be merged into 1983 in Palestine, but despite the 2018 consensus, :Category:1983 establishments in the Israeli Civil Administration area might be usefully kept separate as a sub-cat of 1983 establishments in Palestine, as Dash9Z has populated it with Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Gaza. Maybe ICA establishments should remain as sub-cats of Palestine, but IMG would have to be a parent of Palestine cats for 1967–1981 as it also included Golan and Sinai. – Fayenatic London 11:13, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::{{reply to|Fayenatic london}} I made the years in the Israeli Military Governorate/Israeli Civil Administration categories, along with their corresponding establishment and disestablishment years, as the parent categories of the years in Palestine under those administrations, along with the corresponding establishment and disestablishment years, to address the fact that Golan and Sinai were also included. I think the IMG/ICA years categories should be about Israeli activities and the Palestinian years categories under the IMG/ICA should be about Palestinian activities. Dash9Z (talk) 01:02, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• :::{{ping|Marcocapelle}} please can you remove your "Do not delete pre-1987 categories" proviso now that all years are to be renamed? – Fayenatic London 21:04, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support renaming for obvious reasons AHI-3000 (talk) 19:02, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support renaming/merging for consistency and obvious reasons EXCEPT for :Category:Palestinian territories. That category should stay for its parent article Occupied Palestinian territories and related articles. Dash9Z (talk) 01:08, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• {{ping|Dash9Z}} what other "related articles" would belong in :Category:Palestinian territories? I only see UN Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories. A category is not needed for those two articles. – Fayenatic London 21:04, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:39, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Football people in the State of Palestine to :Category:Football people in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Footballers in the State of Palestine by club to :Category:Footballers in Palestine by club

:* Propose renaming :Category:Footballers in the State of Palestine to :Category:Footballers in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Men's footballers in the State of Palestine to :Category:Men's footballers in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Women's footballers in the State of Palestine to :Category:Women's footballers in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Men's footballers in the State of Palestine by club to :Category:Men's footballers in Palestine by club

:* Propose renaming :Category:Men's footballers in the State of Palestine by competition to :Category:Men's footballers in Palestine by competition

:* Propose renaming :Category:Expatriate men's footballers in the State of Palestine to :Category:Expatriate men's footballers in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Student wings of political parties in the State of Palestine to :Category:Student wings of political parties in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Eastern Catholic church buildings in the State of Palestine to :Category:Eastern Catholic church buildings in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Lists of ambassadors to the State of Palestine to :Category:Lists of ambassadors to Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Roman Catholic chapels in the State of Palestine to :Category:Roman Catholic chapels in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in the State of Palestine to :Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Eastern Christianity in the State of Palestine to :Category:Eastern Christianity in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Judaism in the State of Palestine to :Category:Judaism in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Oriental Orthodox monasteries in the State of Palestine to :Category:Oriental Orthodox monasteries in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Jordanian expatriate sportspeople in the State of Palestine to :Category:Jordanian expatriate sportspeople in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2010s murders in the State of Palestine to :Category:2010s murders in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Catholic cathedrals in the State of Palestine to :Category:Catholic cathedrals in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Shrines in the State of Palestine to :Category:Shrines in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Catholic church buildings in the State of Palestine to :Category:Catholic church buildings in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Infectious disease deaths in the State of Palestine to :Category:Infectious disease deaths in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Protestantism in the State of Palestine to :Category:Protestantism in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Christian buildings and structures in the State of Palestine to :Category:Christian buildings and structures in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Bridges in the State of Palestine to :Category:Bridges in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Burial monuments and structures in the State of Palestine to :Category:Burial monuments and structures in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:First ladies of the State of Palestine to :Category:First ladies of Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Accidental deaths in the State of Palestine to :Category:Accidental deaths in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Murders in the State of Palestine by decade to :Category:Murders in Palestine by decade

:* Propose renaming :Category:Eastern Orthodoxy in the State of Palestine to :Category:Eastern Orthodoxy in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Horse racing in the State of Palestine to :Category:Horse racing in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Stabbing attacks in the State of Palestine to :Category:Stabbing attacks in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Residential building bombings in the State of Palestine to :Category:Residential building bombings in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2020s murders in the State of Palestine to :Category:2020s murders in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:School bombings in the State of Palestine to :Category:School bombings in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Mobile phone companies of the State of Palestine to :Category:Mobile phone companies of Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2024 murders in the State of Palestine to :Category:2024 murders in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Vehicular rampage in the State of Palestine to :Category:Vehicular rampage in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Attacks on churches in the State of Palestine to :Category:Attacks on churches in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Lutheranism in the State of Palestine to :Category:Lutheranism in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Basketball in the State of Palestine to :Category:Basketball in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2019 murders in the State of Palestine to :Category:2019 murders in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Improvised explosive device bombings in the State of Palestine to :Category:Improvised explosive device bombings in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Greek Orthodox monasteries in the State of Palestine to :Category:Greek Orthodox monasteries in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Contemporary art galleries in the State of Palestine to :Category:Contemporary art galleries in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Bus stations in the State of Palestine to :Category:Bus stations in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Convention centers in the State of Palestine to :Category:Convention centers in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Armenian churches in the State of Palestine to :Category:Armenian churches in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Mosque bombings in the State of Palestine to :Category:Mosque bombings in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Austrian expatriate sportspeople in the State of Palestine to :Category:Austrian expatriate sportspeople in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Extrajudicial killings in the State of Palestine to :Category:Extrajudicial killings in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2023 murders in the State of Palestine to :Category:2023 murders in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Murders in the State of Palestine by year to :Category:Murders in Palestine by year

:* Propose renaming :Category:Expatriate men's footballers in the State of Palestine to :Category:Expatriate men's footballers in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Attacks on mosques in the State of Palestine to :Category:Attacks on mosques in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Chilean expatriate sportspeople in the State of Palestine to :Category:Chilean expatriate sportspeople in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Deaths by person in the State of Palestine to :Category:Deaths by person in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Eastern Orthodox church buildings in the State of Palestine to :Category:Eastern Orthodox church buildings in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Oriental Orthodox church buildings in the State of Palestine to :Category:Oriental Orthodox church buildings in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Mass stabbings in the State of Palestine to :Category:Mass stabbings in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Assassinations in the State of Palestine to :Category:Assassinations in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2022 murders in the State of Palestine to :Category:2022 murders in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Retailing in the State of Palestine to :Category:Retailing in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Mass shootings in the State of Palestine to :Category:Mass shootings in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Italian expatriate sportspeople in the State of Palestine to :Category:Italian expatriate sportspeople in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Defunct newspapers published in the State of Palestine to :Category:Defunct newspapers published in Palestine

:* Propose renaming :Category:State of Palestine sidebar templates to :Category:Palestine sidebar templates

:* Propose renaming :Category:State of Palestine modules to :Category:Palestine modules

:Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 19#Palestine. Hassan697 (talk) 18:09, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Rename per earlier discussions. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:24, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Support renaming for obvious reasons AHI-3000 (talk) 19:03, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support renaming for consistency and obvious reasons. Dash9Z (talk) 01:09, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: manual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:15, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose manually merging :Category:Fiction set in 13th-century Holy Roman Empire (2 C) to :Category:Fiction set in the 13th century and :Category:Holy Roman Empire in fiction

:* Propose manually merging :Category:Fiction set in 14th-century Holy Roman Empire (1 C) to :Category:Fiction set in the 14th century and :Category:Holy Roman Empire in fiction

:* Propose manually merging :Category:Fiction set in 15th-century Holy Roman Empire (2 C) to :Category:Fiction set in the 15th century and :Category:Holy Roman Empire in fiction

:Nominator's rationale: manually merge, redundant category layer with 1-2 subcategories each. Most subcategories are already in the tree of the targets, hence a manual merge is needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:51, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as nominated. I will tell the bot to leave a redirect after the merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:17, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Greco-Roman world to :Category:Classical antiquity

:* Propose renaming :Category:Greco-Roman ethnography to :Category:Classical ethnography

:* Propose renaming :Category:Tribes in Greco-Roman historiography to :Category:Tribes in classical historiography

:* Propose renaming :Category:Legendary tribes in Greco-Roman historiography to :Category:Legendary tribes in classical historiography

:Nominator's rationale: merge the top category, largely overlapping scope, both contain :Category:Ancient Greece + :Category:Ancient Rome as their key components. By all means keep a redirect. Also merge per WP:G4, we already merged it back in 2016. User:Fayenatic london and User:Jc37 participated in that discussion, User:Dimadick did the recreation, User:TSventon discovered the previous discussion. Rename the subcategories listed above, per Jc37's earlier point to remove the term "Greco-Roman" consistently. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:29, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• I'm obviously not opposing this (lol) - But I'm wondering about :Category:Greco-Roman ethnography. Do we need a descriptor word for "classical" for the ethnography one. Perhaps a word like era or period or history or some such? I'm asking because I don't want to see us here again because someone thought "classical" was ambiguous. Another option could be to follow the others and do something similar: "Category:Ethnography of classical antiquity" for them. (of, not in, because it is a study "of" the time, not a study taking place during the time.) But the thing is, when I read over ethnography and look at :Category:Ethnography, I'm doubtful about whether that category should exist at all. It seems a hodge-podge of Greco-Roman-related things, including locations, which, as far as I can tell, shouldn't be there at all. I welcome others' thoughts on this. - jc37 18:27, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• : I am certainly open to alternative solutions for this one. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::After reading over Ethnography and Historiography, I think we should UpMerge that category to :Category:Classical historiography. It looks like this is a bit of overlapcat, for one thing. An interesting line from Ethnography#Origins" "From Herodotus forward, ethnography was a mainstay of ancient historiography.". The second reason, is the subcats. If Ethnography "... encompasses the ways in which ancient authors described and analyzed foreign cultures", then why are the tribes cats "...in classical historiography", and not "...in classical ethnography"? Again, I think it's due to the overlap of the topics. Basically, it seems to only differ in what perspective we're looking at the same thing from. Anyway, I think UpMerging would be better for clarity. - jc37 18:33, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect parent again, rename others per nom. I think {{cat|Classical civilizations}} should be nominated next; {{c|classical antiquity}} could go directly in the most appropriate Civilisations parent… but we can leave that now for another day. – Fayenatic London 21:22, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect as nominated; "Greco-Roman" is clunky, if not necessarily incorrect (certainly not in all instances). Whether the "Classical ethnography" category is justified or correctly populated is another matter entirely, though some of its contents seem appropriate. P Aculeius (talk) 10:54, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Veneto geography stubs. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:22, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Venice stubs to :Category:Venice geography stubs

:Nominator's rationale: It's a subcat of Veneto geography stubs, so that's why I believe "Venice geography stubs" is more accurate - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 16:37, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Upmerge to :Category:Veneto geography stubs, underpopulated stub category. If not merged, don't rename, keeping it similar to e.g. :Category:Rome stubs. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:43, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• upmerge with the geo articles going to :Category:Veneto geography stubs, and buildings going to :Category:Italian building and structure stubs or one of its subcats. Waacstats (talk) 10:58, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:45, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Bigg Boss contestants}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Bigg Boss Marathi contestants}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Bigg Boss Kannada contestants}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Bigg Boss Bangla contestants}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Bigg Boss (Telugu TV series) contestants}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Bigg Boss (Tamil TV series) contestants}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Bigg Boss (Hindi TV series) contestants}}

:Nominator's rationale: Celebrity contestants fail WP:PERFCAT. --woodensuperman 15:35, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment I fail to understand why you singled out "Big Boss" from a HUGE parent category, :Category:Reality television participants. --Altenmann >talk 16:26, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• :We usually make exceptions for reality TV contestants when this a WP:DEFINING characteristic for them, i.e. something that they are primarily known for, which usually applies for non-celebrities who are known only for being on that show. That is not the case with celebrity contestants, and those categories are regularly deleted or purged. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 August 21#Category:Celebrity Big Brother (UK) contestants and many other similar categories for precedent. So this has not been singled out, and I will happily nominate other celebrity categories that I find. --woodensuperman 17:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. The franchises have to be nominated one by one, unfortunately, because occasionally the nomination does not apply. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:45, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:45, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Television stations in the Wilkes-Barre–Scranton market to :Category:Television stations in Northeastern Pennsylvania

:Nominator's rationale: Consistency with main article's name; don't want to use Nielsen market name Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:51, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Rename, edit and reparent. I have added :Category:Northeastern Pennsylvania as a parent, but others will need revising, along with the stated scope. – Fayenatic London 11:15, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:39, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Vanuatuan female javelin throwers to :Category:Female javelin throwers

:Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. Also merge with :Category:Vanuatuan female athletes. :Category:Vanuatuan javelin throwers becomes redundant as she is the only notable Vanuatuan javelin thrower. LibStar (talk) 06:59, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge back. There is consensus that these categories should become red, and consensus that some of their contents belong in subcategories of :Category:Words and phrases by language. Because not all of them do, I am listing this for manual processing. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:57, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Concepts by language}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Dutch-language concepts}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|English-language concepts}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|French-language concepts}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|German-language concepts}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Hindi-language concepts}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Japanese-language concepts}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Portuguese-language concepts}}

:Nominator's rationale: The cat has no description, but looking into its contents I gather it is intended for concepts named by non-English words. If this is so, then it must be deleted, because the language of the name of the concept is not a defining characteristic of a concept. Heck, 90% of concepts are in Greek or Latin :-) --Altenmann >talk 04:06, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom and all the subcategories should be deleted too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:30, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:SHAREDNAME and because Wikipedia is not a dictionary. I have added the subcategories to the nomination. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 09:49, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Can you quote what part of WP:SHAREDNAME you have in mind, exactly? fgnievinski (talk) 19:22, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::The policy refers not only to topics which share a name, but also those with names that have a similar charcteristic (e.g. "Musicians beginning with the letter M"). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:44, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
• :::That's only applicable then the characteristics of the name are non-defining. "A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently refer to in describing the topic." The members of :Category:Concepts by language normally satisfy the above requirements. fgnievinski (talk) 16:41, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
• :::: I respectfully suggest you to read Lewis Carroll's funny, but to the point, "Haddocks' Eyes", which demonstrates the use–mention distinction between a "thing" and "the name of a thing". Nobody argues that, e.g., wabi-sabi is a Japanese concept, but this is a concept of Japanese culture, not of the Japanese language. --Altenmann >talk 17:45, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
• Keep as a recent split of :Category:Words and phrases by language. If the nominated categories are deleted, what will be done with their current members? If they are to be merged back where they were, that would be a violation of MOS:WAW. fgnievinski (talk) 13:57, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• "Recent split" is not an argument to keep. And about merging back you are absolutely right: MOS:WAW does not allow this. What is more, all categories about "Words and phrases" must be mercilessly cleaned from articles that are not about words. But this would be an enormous work. --Altenmann >talk 16:07, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• :You said: "the language of the name of the concept is not a defining characteristic of a concept". That is only true for concepts readily translated in multiple languages, which is not the case. fgnievinski (talk) 19:22, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• :*It may be defining for a Wiktionary, but not for Wikipedia. Yes, it is tempting to categorize balalaika, mezuza, and hentai as something non-English, but again, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. --Altenmann >talk 20:20, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• :*:These examples are all members of, respectively, :Category:Russian words and phrases, :Category:Hebrew words and phrases, and :Category:Japanese words and phrases (or one of their subcats). Are you going to also nominated for deletion :Category:Works by language? fgnievinski (talk) 04:01, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment - Whatever these are, they are not "concepts". What they seem to be are names for things (items, titles, processes, etc), which are referred to in english by a word (or phrase) from another language. I think this could be useful categorisation (or maybe listifying?), but at the very least they need a rename from "concepts". - jc37 20:23, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Perhaps "Entities"? fgnievinski (talk) 04:08, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
• :* If the subcategories aren't deleted they should be merged to :Category:Dutch words and phrases etc. As said, they aren't concepts, they are just words. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:39, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
• The contents seem to have no more in common than that they are nouns with a common language origin. Merge back per Marcocapelle. – Fayenatic London 09:29, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Competitions. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:39, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Electronics competitions to :Category:Competitions and :Category:Technology events

:Nominator's rationale: underpopulated category ^SMason_Garrison 03:15, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

:*Propose upmerging into :Category:Competitions. It is a long stretch to call its single item, LG Mobile World Cup, a competition in texting "Technology event". Is it were so, car racing or hackathons are way more technologic. --Altenmann >talk 04:19, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Merge to :Category:Competitions only, per Altenmann. It is a bit of a stretch to call it a technology event. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:36, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Argentine tropical physicians to :Category:Tropical physicians

:Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry, also merge with :Category:Argentine physicians.

Also propose merging:

• :Category:Egyptian tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Egyptian physicians
• :Category:Ghanaian tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Ghanaian medical doctors
• :Category:Guyanese tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Guyanese medical doctors
• :Category:Indian tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Indian medical doctors
• :Category:Iranian tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Iranian physicians
• :Category:Israeli tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Israeli physicians
• :Category:Israeli tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Israeli physicians
• :Category:Malaysian tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Malaysian medical doctors
• :Category:New Zealand tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:New Zealand medical doctors
• :Category:Norwegian tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Norwegian physicians
• :Category:Sierra Leonean tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Sierra Leonean physicians
• :Category:Spanish tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Spanish physicians
• :Category:Swedish tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Swedish physicians
• :Category:Swiss tropical physicians with :Category:Tropical physicians and :Category:Swiss physicians LibStar (talk) 01:52, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment We have :Category:Tropical physicians by nationality. If there is a reason for its existence, then I fail to understand why Malaysians are disallowd to have their own category, while German tropical physicians is privileged. The goal of categories is primarily for navigation and classification. If it was decided to split "topical physicians" by nationality, it must serve some real-life purpose for readers, i.e., to quickly find Swedish physicians that are tropical. In this case the size of the category is a non-argument. --Altenmann >talk 16:37, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• :It has been standard practice not to keep categories of only 1 entry. @Marcocapelle has been involved in CfDs a lot more than me and could attest to this. LibStar (talk) 06:36, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
• :* That is right but I suppose Altenmann is aware of that. There is no point in having a Malaysian category because there aren't any other Malaysian tropical physicians to navigate to from Mak Joon Wah, which is the single article that exists. The most closely related articles that we have are e.g. about tropical physicians in Indonesia or Thailand, or about other types of physicians in Malaysia, and they can more quickly be navigated to from Mak Joon Wah when this article is in the root categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:1670s ships. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:35, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:1672 ships to :Category:1670s ships

:Nominator's rationale: Per notice on category, consensus within Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships states that prior to 1740, ships should be categorized by decade. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:39, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

• Presumably also merge to :Category:1672 beginnings. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• Agree merger to 1670s ships;

: but on merging :Category:1672 beginnings, noting that the single entry is (now) included in List of ship launches in 1672, and that :Category:1670s ships is already in :Category:1670s beginnings, I do not think that merging the content from here is a good approach. - Davidships (talk) 11:16, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

• Merge only to :Category:1670s ships. List of ship launches in 1672 is now in {{c|1672 beginnings}}. I suggest building in categories to the template {{tl|Shipevents}}. – Fayenatic London 09:48, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. This is probably the longest-running CFD I have closed. The bottom line is that there is no consensus for any particular further action; Marcocapelle and jc37 both state they are happy with the current tree; LaundryPizza0 proposed a forward merge, and 4meter4 supports a reverse merge. Even numbers and even arguments means no consensus for any particular action. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:45, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Works set in prison}}

:Nominator's rationale: Forms a category loop with :Category:Fiction set in prison, and contains no articles. All the other subcategories are already in the other category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:00, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• "Fiction set in X" categories normally only contain "Works set in X" and Fictional elements in X (mostly characters). This case is no exception to that. I tend to think that the "Fiction set in" category layer is redundant, rather than the "Works set in" layer. The works and fictional elements can be linked to each other in the header of the category page, just like songs and albums. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:27, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Keep. This is the parent category. There is narrative non-fiction set in prison(s), and deleting this would result in removing those works from the category tree. This also includes any future works that are created which is highly likely. Further I note that :Category:Documentary films about the penal system (which is non-fiction) is part of :Category:Films set in prison so really the Medium by setting tree is better suited to the "works by setting" structure because the medium cats by setting do not inherently sort out fiction from non-fiction. The whole Fiction by setting category structure is badly conceived and should probably be deprecated. If a deletion happens it should be the fiction category that is deleted after being merged to this one.4meter4 (talk) 00:33, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment - I just tagged :Category:Fiction set in prison (for merging to :Category:Works set in prison). Essentially a reverse merge. If someone would like to relist this : ) - jc37 18:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
• Reverse merge and purge As noted above, "Works" is the broader cat. And I'm looking at the "fiction" cat, and it's filled with films and songs, etc., so UpMerging would be appropriate. It also has characters, which aren't settings nor are they fictional works that are set anywhere. And for that matter, it also has fictional settings, which shouldn't be here either. In other words, these are fictional elements, not the works of fiction themselves. See also: :Category:Fictional elements by work. And while we do not have :Category:Fictional characters by work, we do have: :Category:Fictional locations by work. What we don't have: :Category:Fictional characters by fictional work setting. Nor do we have: :Category:Fictional places by fictional work setting. Sounds like too many intersections for categorizing. - jc37 18:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
• :{{re|LaundryPizza03|4meter4}} thoughts? it's lio! | talk | work 13:00, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
• ::I don't oppose applying this to every work-by-setting category, given previous discussion of this idea. Probably once this is more widespread I will also create a :Category:History books by setting category to cover all the ones about the 20th century, etc. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:29, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

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• A plain reverse merge does not work (yet?), because subcategories :Category:Fictional prisons, :Category:Fictional prison officials and :Category:Fictional prisoners and detainees clearly do not belong there. It is also somewhat questionable for the other subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:26, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
• :Which is why I supported purging. Those categories do not belong in either category. They are not works of fiction that are set somewhere (the inclusion criteria of the cats). - jc37 19:19, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support reverse merge and purge per Jc37 as an addendum to my earlier comment. This is the only workable path.4meter4 (talk) 13:31, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
• {{ping|Jc37|4meter4}} but what do we do with the three (or all?) subcategories that are supposed to be purged? They belong together somehow, don't they? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
• :Fair question. The follow-up question is whether we should have a category of "Fictional elements associated with a topic". That's a pretty large can of worms to open.
• :Looking at the individual cats:
• :* :Category:Prison healthcare in fiction can be deleted. It's some redirects of characters and an episode of a TV show.
• :*:Category:Fictional prisoners and detainees should be deleted. We talk about "defining", but along with that is a sense of "weight". how defining is the event to the character or the history of the character? For example, most criminals in a storyline where the hero "wins" go to jail. And on the converse, when a villain captures a hero or their associates they are also imprisoned. The Perils of Pauline comes immediately to mind. And then there are situations besides imprisonment due to court ruling, there's prisoner's of war, as well as victims of various kinds of kidnapping. And this is a long-standing trope in soap operas - often as an explanation why a new actor shows up as a brother, cousin, niece, etc. This is a broad category that really isn't useful for navigation. Besides, we already have :Category:Fictional criminals, and its subcat :Category:Fictional criminals by crime, which more clearly cover these characters. And if no consensus to delete, they are already in :Category:Crime fiction characters as well.
• :* :Category:Fictional prison officials is a "by occupation" cat, and :Category:Fictional prisons is a location cat, and both can be see-also linked to in the cat description, as noted in Wikipedia:Categorization#Subcategorization.
• :So each is resolvable. - jc37 08:24, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
• :* Then I would propose putting this discussion on hold until the respective subcategories are deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:56, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
• :*:Nominated the two suggested for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 March 27 so we can make progress toward resolving this. -- Beland (talk) 00:52, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

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• As it currently stands, I do not see a reason to merge either way. Both the "in fiction" and the "works" category are populated properly with the sort of content that you would expect there. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• :I did a little cleanup - I added a couple see alsos (for example, a person, fictional or otherwise, is not a setting location); and moved the anime-manga one to works.
• :So at this point, I agree. - jc37 19:03, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::What the hell? I just discovered that :Category:Fictional prisoners and detainees was just suddenly deleted? And it was barely even a discussion, just like 1 support and 1 oppose? And yet all the subcategories were left untouched. AHI-3000 (talk) 22:04, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
• :::It was 3 delete, 1 oppose. But consensus is not a vote. - jc37 22:50, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::::Nah, I know how this works, it's pretty much voting. AHI-3000 (talk) 01:05, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::::Shouldn't {{cl|Fictional prisoners and detainees in the United States}} be nominated by the same logic? --woodensuperman 09:41, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
• :::::There's also :Category:Fictional prison escapees and :Category:Fictional prisoners of war which were also left behind by this recklessly sudden deletion of their super-category. AHI-3000 (talk) 17:10, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::::::The latter 2 are categorised just fine. - jc37 19:43, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

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