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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:43, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Novels set in the historical United Kingdom to :Category:Historical novels set in England

:* Propose renaming :Category:Novels set in the historical United States to :Category:Historical novels set in the United States

:Nominator's rationale: rename, aligning with parent :Category:Historical novels by setting and avoiding "the historical United Kingdom" which is quite an odd expression. Besides all subcategories are about England. Similarly for the United States. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:10, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:15, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment My first thought upon looking at :Category:Historical novels by setting, is that all the subcats use the format "Novels set in...". But then I looked at: :Category:Historical fiction by country of setting, and that uses a different standard of "History of X in fiction". I think all of these should use the same standard whatever we decide. - jc37 01:18, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. I think historical novel, as a subcat of historical fiction is the right direction to go, per :Category:Historical novels, which is a subcat of :Category:Historical fiction - and of course, per Historical fiction. And if we are going with "...set in (the)..." format, then the nom seems to be following that formulation. So a standard of Category:Historical set in (the) X seems appropriate. - jc37 01:18, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:42, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Eurovision Song Contest songs by year templates to :Category:Eurovision Song Contests by year templates

:Nominator's rationale: Legacy category name from when artists, songs and countries in each year's event were listed in separate navboxes. Rename required as all have been merged into one navbox per year. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 16:57, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Grk1011 (talk) 17:04, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Ktkvtsh (talk) 19:07, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:43, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:7th-century Chinese architects (1 P) to :Category:7th-century architects and :Category:Chinese architects

:* Propose merging :Category:10th-century Chinese architects (1 P) to :Category:10th-century Chinese artists, :Category:10th-century architects and :Category:Chinese architects

:* Propose merging :Category:11th-century Chinese architects (2 P) to :Category:11th-century Chinese artists, :Category:11th-century architects and :Category:Chinese architects

:* Propose merging :Category:15th-century Chinese architects (2 P) to :Category:15th-century Chinese artists, :Category:15th-century architects and :Category:Chinese architects

:* Propose merging :Category:19th-century Chinese architects (1 P) to :Category:19th-century Chinese artists, :Category:19th-century architects and :Category:Chinese architects

:Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated and poorly-populated categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:40, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Merge all per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:25, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:35, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Graduates of the United States Military Academy Class of 1933 to :Category:United States Military Academy alumni

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. There is a rare exception for :Category:Graduates of the United States Military Academy Class of 1915 because they have an article about it The class the stars fell on ^SMason_Garrison 14:21, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

::Hi. I think that graduates of USMA should definitely be in a category but also having categories by year would be extremely interesting to many people. 1915 has been written about as a special year but many other years are filled with historical figures and it’s interesting to see who were classmates. This can’t be done in the Alumni category. I was planning on starting other years as well and was hoping it may get other people to create other years. It doesn’t seem like their should be any issues with having these separate categories at all. DJ71park (talk) 19:41, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:49, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
• :Hi. I think that graduates of USMA should definitely be in a category but also having categories by year would be extremely interesting to many people. 1915 has been written about as a special year but many other years are filled with historical figures and it’s interesting to see who were classmates. This can’t be done in the Alumni category. I was planning on starting other years as well and was hoping it may get other people to create other years. It doesn’t seem like their should be any issues with having these separate categories at all DJ71park (talk) 19:43, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
• :* If it is "interesting" then lists are more appropriate. Categories are for defining characteristics and "classmate of" is certainly not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
• :*:It's pretty hard to say that the class year that someone graduated from USMA isn't a defining characteristic. Especially since they were grouped together frequently in war time based on their classmates. Also, it is completely subjective to say that the year 1915 is better than any other year and can be included as a category and not other years. If this one has to go because there is no defining characteristic to a person then 1915 should go as well. To keep one and not the other would be non neutral and biased. DJ71park (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
• :** I would support merging 1915 too but that would be a different discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:16, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:43, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:WikiProject Eurovision participants to :Category:WikiProject Song Contests participants

:Nominator's rationale: the project has been renamed. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 13:36, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:50, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. Grk1011 (talk) 17:04, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. Ktkvtsh (talk) 19:09, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. VegaDark (talk) 14:35, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:54, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Division 5 (Swedish football) players}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Division 4 (Swedish football) players}}

:Nominator's rationale: Hardly a defining characteristic. Seventh tier in the Swedish football league system with around 500 teams. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 12:10, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Division 4 should probably be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
• added :Category:Division 4 (Swedish football) players (sixth tier). Kaffet i halsen (talk) 16:03, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 11:28, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
• Keep - there are sufficient entries to justify the categories. GiantSnowman 11:30, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Not defining. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:18, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:54, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Truro, Nova Scotia, by occupation to :Category:People from Truro, Nova Scotia

:Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 11:06, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:58, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:18, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:54, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Television anchors from Columbia, Missouri to :Category:People from Columbia, Missouri

:Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 11:02, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:59, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:18, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:12, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Entertainers from Charleston, South Carolina to :Category:People from Charleston, South Carolina, by occupation

:Nominator's rationale: Subcategory with just two entries. Also propose nominating-

• :Category:Entertainers from Columbia, South Carolina to :Category:People from Columbia, South Carolina, by occupation
• :Category:Entertainers from Kansas City, Kansas to :Category:People from Kansas City, Kansas, by occupation
• :Category:Entertainers from Topeka, Kansas to :Category:People from Topeka, Kansas, by occupation
• :Category:Entertainers from Wichita, Kansas to :Category:People from Wichita, Kansas, by occupation
• :Category:Entertainers from Lawrence, Kansas to :Category:People from Lawrence, Kansas, by occupation

All subcategories with just one or two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 09:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:01, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
• Merge all per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:27, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:54, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Serial killers who committed suicide}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Murderers who committed suicide}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Criminals who committed suicide}}

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection that if not deleted needs to be renamed to match the norm of "who died by suicide". ^SMason_Garrison 05:36, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Delete, we already have :Category:People who died by suicide in prison custody and when died by suicide outside prison it is a trivial intersection indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:19, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:54, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lt|Ehime-railstation-stub}}

:Nominator's rationale: Useless stub template, category is empty. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 05:34, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:02, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Musicians who died by suicide}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Authors who died by suicide}}

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between occupation and specific cause of death. If Authors not deleted, it needs to be renamed to "Writers". Other similar cases include: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_December_28#Category:Pornographic_actors_who_died_by_suicide ^SMason_Garrison 05:33, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

::Delete per nom. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:27, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:19, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:02, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:January 2023 sports events in Iraq}} to :Category:January 2023 sports events in Asia and :Category:January 2023 in Iraq

:Nominator's rationale: Isolated category. Not useful for navigation. –Aidan721 (talk) 04:34, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:25, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:February 2023 sports events in Samoa}} to :Category:2023 in Samoan sport and :Category:February 2023 sports events in Oceania

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:June 2023 in Samoa}} to :Category:2023 in Samoa and :Category:June 2023 in Oceania

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:February 2023 in Samoa}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:2023 in Samoa by month}}

:Nominator's rationale: Isolated categories. Not useful for navigation. –Aidan721 (talk) 04:31, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:31, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:02, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Argentine science fiction television series by decade}}

:Nominator's rationale: and child :Category:1990s Argentine science fiction television series. The whole tree has only article. Fuddle (talk) 02:35, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, but without prejudice to the creation of a full tree if anyone feels like building it. In its current state it does not add any value. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:39, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
• Delete Also :Category:Argentine science fiction television series contains only the nominated category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:19, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:May 2023 sports events in Vanuatu}} to :Category:2023 in Vanuatuan sport and :Category:May 2023 sports events in Oceania

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:May 2023 in Vanuatu}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:2023 in Vanuatu by month}}

:Nominator's rationale: Isolated categories. Not useful for navigation. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:15, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:15, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:February 2023 in Monaco}} to :Category:2023 in Monaco and :Category:February 2023 in Europe

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:May 2023 sports events in Monaco}} to :Category:May 2023 sports events in Europe

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:May 2023 in Monaco}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:2023 in Monaco by month}}

:Nominator's rationale: Isolated categories. Not useful for navigation. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:06, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) ^SMason_Garrison 05:39, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Argentine science fiction television series}}

:Nominator's rationale: and child :Category:1990s Argentine science fiction television series. The entire tree contains only one article. Fuddle (talk) 01:57, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• I tagged the wrong category. Fuddle (talk) 02:34, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:05, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:June 2023 sports events in Slovenia}} to :Category:2023 in Slovenian sport and :Category:June 2023 sports events in Europe

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:June 2023 in Slovenia}} to :Category:2023 in Slovenia and :Category:June 2023 in Europe

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:June 2023 in Slovenia}}

:Nominator's rationale: Isolated categories. Not useful for navigation. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:49, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

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:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:June 2023 sports events in Cambodia}} to :Category:2023 in Cambodian sport and :Category:June 2023 sports events in Asia

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:June 2023 in Cambodia}} to :Category:2023 in Cambodia and :Category:June 2023 in Asia

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:July 2023 in Cambodia}} to :Category:2023 in Cambodia and :Category:July 2023 in Asia

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:2023 in Cambodia by month}}

:Nominator's rationale: Isolated categories. Not useful for navigation. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:55, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

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