Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 28#Category:Fictional alchemists
= January 28 =
== Category:Otidiphabinae ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:10, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Otidiphabinae to :Category:Columbidae
:Nominator's rationale: Otidiphabinae is a monogeneric subfamily. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Claravis (bird) ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:10, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Claravis (bird) to :Category:Columbidae
:Nominator's rationale: Claravis is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Noddies (tern) ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:10, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Noddies (tern) to :Category:Anous
:Nominator's rationale: These categories are overlapping{{snd}}noddy is the common name for members of the genus Anous. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:20, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Stiltia ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:10, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Stiltia to :Category:Glareolidae
:Nominator's rationale: Stiltia is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:16, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Chionidae ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:10, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Chionidae to :Category:Chionidi
:Nominator's rationale: Chionidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:12, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Ibidorhynchidae ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:10, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Ibidorhynchidae to :Category:Charadrii
:Nominator's rationale: Ibidorhynchidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:11, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Haematopodidae ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:10, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Haematopodidae to :Category:Charadrii
:Nominator's rationale: Haematopodidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:09, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Upupidae ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Upupidae to :Category:Upupi
:Nominator's rationale: Upupidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Bucorvidae ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Bucorvidae to :Category:Buceroti
:Nominator's rationale: Bucorvidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:58, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Rhinoplax ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Rhinoplax to :Category:Bucerotidae
:Nominator's rationale: Rhinoplax is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:56, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Fictional alchemists ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Merge :Category:Fictional alchemists to :Category:Fictional characters who use magic
This is a follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_10#Category:Fictional_witches_and_wizards.
Just because someone using magic used some material components, editors label them "alchemists". This is WP:OR.
To quote: Alchemy in art and entertainment: "In twentieth and twenty-first century examples, alchemists are generally presented in a more romantic or mystic light, and often little distinction is made between alchemy, magic, and witchcraft. Alchemy has become a common theme in fantasy fiction."
And many of the characters already are in other subcats of the target (WP:OVERLAPCAT). - jc37 20:11, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge as nom. - jc37 20:11, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:36, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Sports venues in Egypt by populated place ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Sports venues in Egypt by populated place to :Category:Sports venues in Africa by populated place and :Category:Sports venues in Egypt
:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT User:Namiba 19:57, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:37, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:17, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Fictional summoners ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 23:58, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Merge :Category:Fictional summoners to :Category:Fictional characters who use magic
This is a follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_10#Category:Fictional_witches_and_wizards. - jc37 19:54, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge as nom. - jc37 19:54, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Question, do the articles really belong in :Category:Fictional characters who use magic even while that is the parent category? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- :Yes. For example, there are magic-using villains, magic-using creatures (like oni), and anime Magical girls. Once merged, they can be diffused to subcats (and subcats of subcats, etc.), if/as appropriate. - jc37 11:54, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Hemiprocnidae ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Hemiprocnidae to :Category:Apodiformes
:Nominator's rationale: Hemiprocnidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Albums arranged by Spencer Dryden ==
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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Albums arranged by Spencer Dryden}}
:Nominator's rationale: It's usually jazz or orchestral albums that are heavily reliant on arrangements, and the one article in this category only mentions Dryden as responsible for horn arrangements in the credits section. It seems that that wouldn't be any more defining to the album than Dryden being the drummer on the album. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Palaeospheniscinae ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Palaeospheniscinae to :Category:Spheniscidae
:Nominator's rationale: Palaeospheniscinae is a monogeneric subfamily. jlwoodwa (talk) 18:48, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Tolkien book characters ==
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:The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:08, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Rename :Category:Characters in The Children of Húrin to :Category:The Children of Húrin characters
:* Rename :Category:Characters in The Hobbit to :Category:The Hobbit characters
:* Rename :Category:Characters in The Silmarillion to :Category:The Silmarillion characters
Per other cats in :Category:Characters in fantasy novel series of the 20th century and :Category:Characters in British novels of the 20th century, etc.
And to match :Category:The Lord of the Rings characters.
This could probably have been a speedy rename, but I thought I'd add them here, in case there were any concerns. - jc37 17:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rename all - as nom. - jc37 17:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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==Category:Willy Wonka==
== Category:Charmed (TV series) witches ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Charmed (TV series) characters. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:15, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Merge :Category:Charmed (TV series) witches to :Category:Charmed (TV series) characters
Per WP:OVERLAPCAT - Most of the category members are already members of the parent. - jc37 17:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/Delete - as nominator. - jc37 17:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Fictional magic characters in comics ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:25, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Merge :Category:DC Comics witches to :Category:DC Comics characters who use magic
:* Merge :Category:Marvel Comics witches to :Category:Marvel Comics characters who use magic
:* Delete :Category:Fictional witches by franchise
:* Merge :Category:DC Comics wizards to :Category:DC Comics characters who use magic
:* Merge :Category:Marvel Comics wizards to :Category:Marvel Comics characters who use magic
:* Delete :Category:Fictional wizards by franchise
This is a follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_10#Category:Fictional_witches_and_wizards. And as per Magician (fantasy), these terms are used disparately and subjectively by authors - in some cases the only similarity between the characters is the name.
Many of the first 2 categories' entries are merely female characters who use magic, that editors then decide to categorise as "witches". Similar thing with the wizard cats and male magic-users. It's WP:OR.
And it's also WP:OVERLAPCAT, as many are also in the targets. - jc37 17:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/Delete - as nominator. - jc37 17:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:48, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Not :Category:Oz (franchise) witches too? Mike Selinker (talk) 00:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- :In that specific case, I think they actually are all called "witches" by the author, and that cat can act as a diffusement for :Category:Oz (franchise) characters who use magic. I was keeping this nom focused on the comics characters. But if you think that cat should get a nom too... - jc37 00:33, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- :I just didn't see much difference, but you are right about the direct use of the term in Oz. Mike Selinker (talk) 23:20, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Michael Stipe ==
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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:13, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Michael Stipe}}
:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON, this can be handled by the "Works by" tree as only one other article to consider. --woodensuperman 15:08, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:49, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Peter Buck ==
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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:13, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Peter Buck}}
:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON, this can be handled by the "Works by" tree as only one other article to consider. --woodensuperman 15:08, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:CKY ==
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:The result of the discussion was: split. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:20, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose splitting :Category:CKY to :Category:CKY and :Category:CKY crew
:Nominator's rationale: Individuals should be in a separate category per WP:COPSEP, would suggest it should match the article CKY crew. Alternatively, they could be purged, as this could be a WP:PERFCAT issue. --woodensuperman 14:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== 22nd-century decades ==
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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:23, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting :Category:2100s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Fiction set in the 2100s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:2110s (1 C, 2 P)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Fiction set in the 2110s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:2120s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Fiction set in the 2120s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:2130s (1 C, 1 P); add the article to :Category:22nd century
:* Propose deleting :Category:Fiction set in the 2130s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:2140s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Fiction set in the 2140s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:2150s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Fiction set in the 2150s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:2160s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Fiction set in the 2160s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:2170s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Fiction set in the 2170s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:2180s (1 C, 1 P)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Fiction set in the 2180s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:2190s (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Fiction set in the 2190s (1 C)
:Nominator's rationale: delete, two redundant category layers, diffusion by decade is only useful for the lower "works set in decade" level. Apart from one article (in the 2130s) there is no need to merge, the content is already in other 22nd-century subcats. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
::Delete per nom. This is too far in the future to gather enough articles — I checked the eclipses as well, and the four articles are all from different decades. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:40, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Not needed now. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- No objection, as the two articles directly in :Category:2110s are also within :Category:22nd-century works. See previous discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_January_9#Category:2114_works. – Fayenatic London 21:46, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
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== International families needing locational disambiguation ==
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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:23, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Barhath family of Shahpura to :Category:Barhath family (Shahpura)
:** :Category:Oppenheim family of Cologne to :Category:Oppenheim family (Cologne)
:** :Category:Denison family of Toronto to :Category:Denison family (Toronto)
:** :Category:Yadav family of Uttar Pradesh to :Category:Yadav family (Uttar Pradesh)
:** :Category:Yadav family of Bihar to :Category:Yadav family (Bihar)
:**:Category:Das family of Telirbagh to :Category:Das family (Telirbagh)
:Nominator's rationale: We've recently renamed the US, Australian, and British family categories which need locational disambiguation to put the location in parentheses. These international categories should match. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:33, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:04, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Odontobatrachidae ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:13, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Odontobatrachidae to :Category:Ranoidea
:Nominator's rationale: Odontobatrachidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:31, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
::Merge per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:51, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:July 2026 sports events in the United Kingdom ==
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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:20, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:January 2026 sports events in Africa}} to :Category:January 2026 sports events
:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:January 2026 sports events in the United States}} to :Category:January 2026 sports events
:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:June 2026 sports events in the United States}} to :Category:June 2026 sports events, :Category:June 2026 events in the United States, and :Category:2026 in American sports
:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:July 2026 sports events in the United Kingdom}} to :Category:July 2026 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:July 2026 sports events in the United States}} to :Category:July 2026 sports events and :Category:July 2026 events in the United States
:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:August 2026 sports events in the United Kingdom}} to :Category:August 2026 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:August 2026 sports events in Germany}} to :Category:August 2026 sports events in Europe and :Category:2026 in German sport
:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:November 2026 sports events in Canada}} to :Category:November 2026 sports events in North America
:* Propose deleting {{clc|Category:January 2026 events in Africa}}
:* Propose deleting {{strikethrough|{{clc|Category:2026 events in Africa by month}}}}{{clc|Category:2026 in Africa by month}} (page was speedy moved during this discussion)
:* Propose deleting {{clc|Category:July 2026 events in the United Kingdom}}
:* Propose deleting {{clc|Category:August 2026 events in the United Kingdom}}
:* Propose deleting {{clc|Category:2026 in the United Kingdom by month}}
:* Propose deleting {{clc|Category:August 2026 events in Germany}}
:* Propose deleting {{clc|Category:2026 events in Germany by month}}
:* Propose deleting {{clc|Category:January 2026 events in the United States}}
:* Propose deleting {{clc|Category:January 2026 sports events in North America}}
:* Propose deleting {{clc|Category:January 2026 events in North America}}
:* Propose deleting {{clc|Category:June 2026 sports events in North America}}
:Nominator's rationale: Too soon to diffuse by country & month. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:23, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:09, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
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==Category:Surnames from ornamental names==
== Category:Sanskrit Aesthetics ==
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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:13, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Sanskrit Aesthetics to :Category:Sanskrit aesthetics
:Nominator's rationale: So that the capitalization can comply with Wikipedia capitalization conventions — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oraclesto (talk • contribs) 00:04, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per WP:C2A but purge the biographies which mostly belong in the tree of :Category:Linguists of Sanskrit. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:15, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Nomination was malformed and has been standardized. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy rename per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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