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:The result of the discussion was: merge/rename/delete as nominated, excepting :Category:Defunct international non-governmental organizations also gets merged to :Category:International non-profit organizations. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:57, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Anti-corruption non-governmental organizations}} to :Category:Anti-corruption organizations

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:International nongovernmental youth organizations}} to :Category:International youth organizations

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Non-governmental organizations involved in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict}} to :Category:Organizations involved in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Non-governmental organizations involved in the Israeli–Palestinian peace process}} to :Category:Organizations involved in the Israeli–Palestinian peace process

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Non-governmental organizations involved in the Turkish War of Independence}} to :Category:Organizations of the Turkish War of Independence

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:World War II non-governmental organizations}} to :Category:Organizations of World War II

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Defunct international non-governmental organizations}} to :Category:Former international organizations

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:International nongovernmental organizations}} to :Category:International non-profit organizations

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Non-governmental organizations involved in the Israeli–Syrian conflict}}

:Nominator's rationale: Following up from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 24#Category:Non-governmental organizations (and previous discussions from 2016: 1, 2), however, for the nominated categories, purging individual organizations would leave either none or 1-2 articles. Therefore, I largely propose renaming/merging to general organizations categories (similar to the linked 2016 CfDs), with the merge of :Category:International nongovernmental organizations to :Category:International non-profit organizations intended as a manual, selective merge.
Regarding :Category:Non-governmental organizations involved in the Israeli–Syrian conflict, I'm leaning towards deletion as I don't think the category (even as :Category:Organizations involved in the Israeli–Syrian conflict) is very useful for navigation (there is no article or category for :Israeli–Syrian conflict, and it currently only contains one article, which is also already in the parent cat :Category:Golan Heights), but I wouldn't be opposed to renaming it either if that's what the majority wants. Felida⁹⁷ (talk) 21:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Bearcat|Marcocapelle|LaundryPizza03}} Courtesy ping to all participants of the recent discussion mentioned above. Felida⁹⁷ (talk) 21:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

::Rename/merge/delete all as proposed by nom. We estbalished that the term is ill-defined and redundant. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:37, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom, but :Category:Defunct international non-governmental organizations should also be merged to :Category:International non-profit organizations. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
• :Yes, that's true (as :Category:International non-profit organizations is the merge target of its other parent, :Category:International nongovernmental organizations, to which it should be merged), thank you, I missed that. Felida⁹⁷ (talk) 15:32, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Haitian commanders of the Napoleonic Wars. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:12, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Black commanders of the Napoleonic Wars to :Category:Military commanders of African descent in the Napoleonic Wars

:Nominator's rationale: I'm on the fence about this category existing, but regardless, I think it needs to be renamed to match the norm of People of African descent ^SMason_Garrison 20:15, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Alt rename and re-parent to :Category:Haitian commanders of the Napoleonic Wars, as part of the by-nationality tree, and purge the one article that is completely unrelated to Haiti. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:57, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Rename to :Category:Haitian commanders of the Napoleonic Wars. This is a subset of {{Cl|Military commanders of the Napoleonic Wars by nationality}}, and neither Black nor African descent are nationalities. Place Clichy (talk) 06:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
• :Haitian commanders of the Napoleonic Wars is a much better solution! ^SMason_Garrison 16:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Discussion about pre-1945 Indonesia categories can be discussed separately. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:48, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:778 in Java}} to :Category:778 and :Category:8th century in Indonesia

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:778 in Indonesia}}

:Nominator's rationale: Largely isolated category with only 1 article. Merge/delete per WP:NARROW. There is no categorization tree for years in Java. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:30, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Indonesia didnt exist until 1945, so it not possible nor correct to call anything before then as in Indonesia. Gnangarra 12:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
• :If you believe that to be an issue, then feel free to address it in a separate nomination. It's not exactly relevant to the scope of this nomination. –Aidan721 (talk) 04:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
• :* Agree, that should be a discussion about :Category:8th century in Indonesia and related categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Madonna. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:14, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Impact and legacy of Madonna to :Category:Legacy of Madonna

:Nominator's rationale: It is needlessly repetitive to simultaneously have "impact" and "legacy" in a title as this category currently does. Using one or the other is sufficient, and if people don't want "legacy" to be here, then I would also be perfectly fine with just having "impact" instead. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 14:45, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• In fact almost none of the articles is about legacy. We might just as well upmerge this category to :Category:Madonna. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• :Don’t upmerge to Category:Madonna. At least keep this category for the articles that are specifically about Madonna’s impact in (blank). TenthAvenueFreezeOut (talk) 16:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Rename to Category:Reception of Madonna, Category:Reception and impact of Madonna or Category:Impact of Madonna. As most articles deals with social reception/criticism, and ambiguous impact. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 16:28, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

:*Having "reception" would also be enough on its own without adding "impact" to the title. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 16:47, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

::* It is not clear what e.g. Fashion of Madonna or Feminism of Madonna have to do with reception though. And impact sounds very vague. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Upmerge to :Category:Madonna. The legacies category is for articles with "Legacy of" in the title. Same with the cultural impact category for cultural impact articles. They are not the same and should not be combined. Mike Selinker (talk) 03:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:52, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Wartime recipes to :Category:Rationing

:Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category ^SMason_Garrison 14:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:26, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Merge In principle, it would inappropriately mix together unrelated time periods. The sole article is about a recipe invented during World War II. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:39, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:15, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:War massacre victims to :Category:War crime victims

:Nominator's rationale: Do we really need to distinguish whether the massacre was war-related? ^SMason_Garrison 14:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. This is supposed to be a subcategory of both :Category:Mass murder victims and :Category:War crime victims, I intended to keep both of these two supercategories clear of directly listing specific incident categories. It's also an important subcategory of :Category:War massacres too, so deleting this specific subcategory would cause an awkward mess. AHI-3000 (talk) 19:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• If merged, shouldn't it also be merged to :Category:Mass murder victims? Marcocapelle (talk) 14:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. These are very different things. Mike Selinker (talk) 01:11, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. These are different and the distinction is careful. Nayyn (talk) 01:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:16, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:War crime victims to :Category:Victims of war crimes

:Nominator's rationale: I think the rename is easier to read, but I'm not sure what others think about this category ^SMason_Garrison 14:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. I created both of these two categories, and I turned the latter page into a category redirect for the new page because I specifically thought "War crime victims" would be the superior name. In fact, I would prefer to tag "Victims of war crimes" with the speedy deletion template. AHI-3000 (talk) 19:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Leave alone and take a look at the subcategories which vary from "Victims of X" and "X victims". We should consider standardizing those. Mike Selinker (talk) 01:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:16, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Politicians imprisoned during the Yemeni Civil War (2014–present) to :Category:Prisoners and detainees of Yemen

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between occupation and imprisonment. ^SMason_Garrison 13:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge for now, with only two articles it is not helpful for navigation. No objection to reinstate the category when some more articles can be added. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:17, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:1686 disestablishments in Iceland}} to :Category:1686 disestablishments in Europe and :Category:2nd-millennium disestablishments in Iceland

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:1680s disestablishments in Iceland}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:17th-century disestablishments in Iceland}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:1680s in Iceland}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:1686 in Iceland}}

:Nominator's rationale: Largely isolated category with just one article. Merge/delete per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:50, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

::Support per nom. ^SMason_Garrison 14:11, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:44, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:18, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:1035 establishments in Scotland}} to :Category:11th-century establishments in Scotland and :Category:1035 establishments in Europe

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:1035 in Scotland}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:1030s establishments in Scotland}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:1030s in Scotland}}

:Nominator's rationale: This is the lone category for X establishments in Scotland in the 11th century with just one article. Merge/delete per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

::Support per nom.^SMason_Garrison 14:11, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:44, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:19, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:1809 in New Zealand}} to :Category:1800s in New Zealand and :Category:1809 in the British Empire

:Nominator's rationale: This category contains just the topic article and one event article and is the only year category in the 1800s for New Zealand. Merge up to :Category:1800s in New Zealand and :Category:1809 in the British Empire. Both articles are already in the :Category:1809 in Oceania tree and the topic article is already in :Category:Years of the 19th century in New Zealand category so no merging there is needed. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:45, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. (Similar upmerges to :Category:1810s in New Zealand should probably be done too - there's only a handful of articles.) Nurg (talk) 08:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:36, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Government by country to :Category:Governments by country

:Nominator's rationale: Similar categories MRTFR55 (talk) 07:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose, :Category:Government by country is a topic category while :Category:Governments by country is a set category. Their content is very different. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Baseball players from Texas and :Category:Sportspeople from Fayette County, Texas. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:53, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Baseball players from Fayette County, Texas to :Category:Baseball players from Texas

:Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

::Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep As I commented elsewhere, this and other categories were created to diffuse :Category:Baseball players from Texas and I don't think sending them back helps navigation. Note: I just created :Category:Sportspeople from Fayette County, Texas so please merge them to that category is deletion does occur.--User:Namiba 16:28, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge to both :Category:Baseball players from Texas and :Category:Sportspeople from Fayette County, Texas. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:54, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Podujevo to :Category:Podujevë

:* Propose renaming :Category:Villages in Podujevo to :Category:Villages in Podujevë

:* Propose renaming :Category:People from Podujevo to :Category:People from Podujevë

:* Propose renaming :Category:Politicians from Podujevo to :Category:Politicians from Podujevë

:* Propose renaming :Category:Sportspeople from Podujevo to :Category:Sportspeople from Podujevë

:Nominator's rationale: I do not see the difference between these two cartegories. Robby (talk) 23:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Merge but keep the page history of the much older page of :Category:Podujevo. Both categories have Podujevë as their main article. The subcategories should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
• :{{Done}}. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
• Merge as a duplicate category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:37, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Beaches of Tahiti}} to :Category:Landforms of Tahiti, :Category:Tourist attractions in Tahiti, and :Category:Beaches of Oceania

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Beaches of Samoa}} to :Category:Landforms of Samoa, :Category:Tourist attractions in Samoa, :Category:Water in Samoa, and :Category:Beaches of Oceania

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Beaches of Vanuatu}} to :Category:Landforms of Vanuatu, :Category:Tourist attractions in Vanuatu, :Category:Water in Vanuatu, and :Category:Beaches of Oceania

:* Propose deleting {{clc|Category:Beaches of French Polynesia}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only 1 beach article each. Merge per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:44, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:38, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:People from Arue}} to :Category:People from Tahiti

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:People from Mahina}} to :Category:People from Tahiti

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:People from Paea}} to :Category:People from Tahiti

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:People from Papara}} to :Category:People from Tahiti

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:People from Pirae}} to :Category:People from Tahiti

:Nominator's rationale: People from X categories are not needed for small communes on the island of Tahiti. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:38, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Airports in Tahiti}} to :Category:Airports in French Polynesia and :Category:Buildings and structures in Tahiti

:Nominator's rationale: Only 1 airport article for the island of Tahiti. Merge per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:29, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:38, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:1727 establishments in Mongolia}} to :Category:1727 establishments in Asia and :Category:2nd-millennium establishments in Mongolia

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:1727 in Mongolia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:1720s establishments in Mongolia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:1720s in Mongolia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:18th-century establishments in Mongolia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Years of the 18th century in Mongolia}}

:Nominator's rationale: There is only 1 article in this tree. Merge/delete per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:39, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:1765 in Burma to :Category:1760s in Burma

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Years of the 18th century in Burma}}

:Nominator's rationale: All 3 articles are of wars or expeditions that listed multiple years in the 1760s. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:40, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:1741 establishments in Greenland}} to :Category:18th-century establishments in Greenland and :Category:1741 establishments in North America

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:1741 in Greenland}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Years of the 18th century in Greenland}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:1740s establishments in Greenland}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:1740s in Greenland}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article in this tree. Merge/delete –Aidan721 (talk) 00:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:39, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:41, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Canadian federal electoral districts disestablished in 2013 to :Category:Canadian federal electoral districts disestablished in 2015

:* and Propose renaming :Category:Canadian federal electoral districts disestablished in 2023 to :Category:Canadian federal electoral districts disestablished in 2025

:Nominator's rationale: See previous nomination, except this time for the disestablishment of electoral districts, here those which last were represented in 2015. Epluribusunumyall (talk) 00:02, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

::*Comment added second category in the same vain for 2023 to 2025. - Epluribusunumyall (talk) 00:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

:*Comment Very interesting idea. I created these categories thinking it would be helpful. In fact I was originally going to name the categories the way you propose, but I noticed that on the riding info-boxes the year of creation and year of abolishment was "off-election-year" so it was a bit confusing. Is the 2012 Canadian federal electoral redistribution for 2013 or 2015? I have no issue with the renaming - 2015 and 2025 are more useful for corresponding to the elections of that year. - Moondragon21 (talk) 06:22, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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